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#1 Digous

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 03:27 PM

This is it.

I've been testing, and dire wolf is now completely useless, its gone for good.

#2 Lily from animove

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 03:29 PM

because no one ever used it with doublegauss + whatever.

Edited by Lily from animove, 15 November 2016 - 03:29 PM.


#3 Quicksilver Aberration

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 03:29 PM

Nerfs all but UAC2s.
Whale hero allows mounting of 8 UAC2s.
Conspiracy to make the Whale Hero P2W confirmed.

/s

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 15 November 2016 - 03:30 PM.


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Posted 15 November 2016 - 03:34 PM

View PostQuicksilver Kalasa, on 15 November 2016 - 03:29 PM, said:

Nerfs all but UAC2s.
Whale hero allows mounting of 8 UAC2s.
Conspiracy to make the Whale Hero P2W confirmed.

/s



Just tried it.

#5 El Bandito

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 05:02 PM

View PostDigous, on 15 November 2016 - 03:27 PM, said:

This is it.

I've been testing, and dire wolf is now completely useless, its gone for good.


So... we'll just take your word for it? There are plenty of other builds for the Whale too, you know. It is an omni-mech, not fixed to one single build. Maybe get take a break from mindless double tapping for a while? Dakka Whale is not everything.

#6 Tarogato

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 05:11 PM

Agreed completely useless.

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Can't even break 1500 anymore.

#7 LT. HARDCASE

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 05:23 PM

You just said, in the other thread you created, that you can alpha your SIX UAC5s 11 times, before overheating. As I pointed out before, that's 330 damage before redlining, is it not?.

You make it sound pretty balanced fam. Get your narrative together. Posted Image

#8 Tristan Winter

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 05:33 PM

@ OP: You need to stop walking so much in the void and play some more MWO. The Dire Wolf was never that reliant on UAC-boating.

#9 Quicksilver Aberration

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 07:08 PM

View PostTristan Winter, on 15 November 2016 - 05:33 PM, said:

@ OP: You need to stop walking so much in the void and play some more MWO. The Dire Wolf was never that reliant on UAC-boating.

Ehhh, to be relevant in the current meta, it did. I mean it is still strong but it is even more situational than it used to be.

#10 Tristan Winter

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 07:33 PM

View PostQuicksilver Kalasa, on 15 November 2016 - 07:08 PM, said:

Ehhh, to be relevant in the current meta, it did. I mean it is still strong but it is even more situational than it used to be.

Would you say it's useless? Gone for good? That was the statement I was responding to. If you're going to apply the term "useless" to a DW, you're operating with a fairly narrow definition of which mechs are viable.

#11 CMDR Sunset Shimmer

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 08:05 PM

View PostQuicksilver Kalasa, on 15 November 2016 - 07:08 PM, said:

Ehhh, to be relevant in the current meta, it did. I mean it is still strong but it is even more situational than it used to be.

Implying Assaults are not situational in general.

#12 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 08:07 PM

View PostDigous, on 15 November 2016 - 03:27 PM, said:

This is it.

I've been testing, and dire wolf is now completely useless, its gone for good.

I still smash face with mine.

#13 Clownwarlord

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 08:08 PM

No it is you are useless, why? Because ..

Direstar


and

Direwolf Giga Drill


Who needs ballistics?

#14 RestosIII

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 08:10 PM

Okay, I'm sorry, but no, the Dire Wolf is not "useless" now. That's just blatantly false.

Unrelated, has anyone else noticed OP's extremely edgy location listing? That gave me a good laugh.

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 08:30 PM

Dual guass is still pretty good. I found it better than 5 UAC5s even before extra ghost heat on UAC5s.

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 08:31 PM

Dual Gauss Rifle and Dual ERPPC combo meal of you dead fool!

Would you like a side of fries with that?

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Posted 16 November 2016 - 02:04 AM

So don't boat it, use this: Gauss-Dakka Whale

#18 Aleski

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Posted 16 November 2016 - 02:13 AM

Ho my gosh ! PGI has nerf the power creep KDK-3 and the Dakka whale ! Now they are useless...

Answer : no they are not, they are just less power creep so the game is more balance compare to IS 100 tonners...

And trust me, like the other has says, Direwolf with dual gauss + stuff is always terrific :
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...4ea377f497b5e38

And much more devastating compare to UAC/5 or UAC/2 boats... Less damage but more kills.

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Posted 16 November 2016 - 02:22 AM

View PostAleski, on 16 November 2016 - 02:13 AM, said:

And trust me, like the other has says, Direwolf with dual gauss + stuff is always terrific :
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...4ea377f497b5e38


That's so much armor on your back...

Go assymetrical: Space Whale done right

With DWF-A right-hand you can have a Lower-Arm Actuator, so you can aim more easily. Also being assym, lose your left side, you're still a formidable Laser-Vomit. Lose your right side, you're still a formidable double-gauss sniper.

View PostAleski, on 16 November 2016 - 02:13 AM, said:

Less damage but more kills.


I can't believe you just said that, with all of the weight of armor and armaments, you should deal the most damage and take the most damage.

You can kill just about any mech with any amount of damage as long as their Engine gets destroyed. Just go light and kill-steal if you're after kills.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 16 November 2016 - 02:29 AM.


#20 Aleski

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Posted 16 November 2016 - 03:06 AM

View PostThe6thMessenger, on 16 November 2016 - 02:22 AM, said:

That's so much armor on your back...

Go assymetrical: Space Whale done right


Have you never use the automatic tool on smurfy to allocate armor instantly ? That's what i do when i quickly post a loadout on the forum. Of course i don't run the armor like this in game...
Assymetrical build are less efficient with the double gauss, i though. That's my playstyle who talks, not the logic. The same with the arm actuator. All the weapons in arms, i think it's the best for my playstyle on the Direwolf.

And better grouping when both the gauss are in the arms or torso. With lower arm actuator + gauss in the torso it's more difficult to aim when arms are unlock.


View PostThe6thMessenger, on 16 November 2016 - 02:22 AM, said:

I can't believe you just said that, with all of the weight of armor and armaments, you should deal the most damage and take the most damage.

You can kill just about any mech with any amount of damage as long as their Engine gets destroyed. Just go light and kill-steal if you're after kills.


Take the most damage on the Direwolf ? Have you ever play the Direwolf ? It's papor armor. If you want to tank, take the Atlas. I even find that my Marauder with STD engine take more punishment than Dire... The purpose of dat build is to have good pin point damages and one shot ennemy mechs or kill them the most quickly.

And again you do not understand my playstyle with that loadout...

Imagine this in game :
I have a Direwolf with 6xUAC/5. I saw an ennemy. Instantly i pull the trigger and make it rain !!! I will made more damages, but spread more and spend more time make it rain on him before killing him.

I have a dual gauss + lazors direwolf. I saw an ennemy. I first look where he is woonded, i aim with a better alpha and better accuracy the weak part, i kill him. Less damages but quicker way to kill him = more benefit for my exposure time and my team.

Understand ? Don't compare this with the gameplya of lights mech...





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