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TercieI, on 22 November 2016 - 11:14 AM, said:

Try this BJ-1X: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...ef457c3f2efa167

Thanks, Terciel - I do appreciate it, as always.
That said, I talked with some other folks about this over in the Battlemechs > Mediums subforum.
For me, XL, especially on the BJ is no good, and I don't want to worry too much about breaking ghost heat.
I might do something like that and just deal with a slower engine, just so that I can trade firing my right and left side as needed.
If I ever get to the point where I want to join team Uberplayer, then I might start adding XLs to my IS mechs, but for now, I'm good.

[TercieI]

ScottAleric, on 22 November 2016 - 11:52 AM, said:

Thanks, Terciel - I do appreciate it, as always.
That said, I talked with some other folks about this over in the Battlemechs > Mediums subforum.
For me, XL, especially on the BJ is no good, and I don't want to worry too much about breaking ghost heat.
I might do something like that and just deal with a slower engine, just so that I can trade firing my right and left side as needed.
If I ever get to the point where I want to join team Uberplayer, then I might start adding XLs to my IS mechs, but for now, I'm good.

Well, any BJ without an XL will be undergunned or too slow, FWIW. And there's no ghost heat on that mech. ML and MPL are not pooled on the IS side. That's actually a big part of why it's built that way. It's not as strong as it was a couple quirk and sizing passes ago, but there are good reasons that's the meta build on the BJ-1X still.

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TercieI, on 22 November 2016 - 12:02 PM, said:

Well, any BJ without an XL will be undergunned or too slow, FWIW. And there's no ghost heat on that mech. ML and MPL are not pooled on the IS side. That's actually a big part of why it's built that way. It's not as strong as it was a couple quirk and sizing passes ago, but there are good reasons that's the meta build on the BJ-1X still.

That's what I keep hearing, and if it's really true, then I'm clearly not good enough yet to be piloting that thing. I'll lose a side torso in what seems like 30% of my matches with one of them (maybe less, I haven't actually counted).
Right now, I'd rather be under gunned and contributing as much as possible, than dead and not contributing at all.

Besides, the BJ just feels straight-up slow, even with the max engine.

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ScottAleric, on 22 November 2016 - 02:03 PM, said:

That's what I keep hearing, and if it's really true, then I'm clearly not good enough yet to be piloting that thing. I'll lose a side torso in what seems like 30% of my matches with one of them (maybe less, I haven't actually counted).
Right now, I'd rather be under gunned and contributing as much as possible, than dead and not contributing at all.

Besides, the BJ just feels straight-up slow, even with the max engine.

It is a tricky mech to drive well, especially now that a lot of its toughness buffs have been reversed and it's been embiggened. And you're right, with the exception of only the 1X it doesn't move that fast. The key is to shoot without being shot back too much. I realize that sounds obvious and that's the heart of all good trading in MWO, but it's especially true of a mech like the Blackjack, which punches way harder than the punches it can take.

Your philosophy of "at least I'm contributing something" isn't nuts, I don't mean to sound like that, but also consider that one way to learn why top players do something one way is just to try it.

Good luck shreddin regardless.

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