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[Hellsgate9999]

So I used to play mwo all the time, I stopped playing right before it was out of beta. I wasn't around for the clan mechs so I have no idea what's going on there.

I'm pretty much asking, what have I missed? What has changed? There are so many new mechs it's crazy.

I have 3 hunchbacks 2 dragons 2 atlas 3 stalkers a couple centurions an awesome aaand o a few caterphracts . Maybe a few more I don't remember.

Are those all still viable or are they old and crappy now? Lol is there a few i should sell because they are not good anymore?

what have they changed? What weps are good ? What weps are bad? When I played lrms and ppcs were considered over powered. What's the new meta look like?
Any other information I need to know?


#1 question though, is the community still pretty awesome?

Thanks alot guys ☺


Sorry I can't figure out how to edit that, just so it's more readable I own

Hunchbacks
Centerions
Atlas
Awesome
Stalker
Dragons
Caterphracts

I'm totally willing to sell the ones that are no longer very good to make room for some of those new bad boys.

Thanks

[Cy Mitchell]

Welcome back. You would be best served by reading some of the post here: http://mwomercs.com/...des-strategies/. That will help you with what Mechs are in the game and how to optimize them. Also prepare for the salt and those with the "I hate PGI" agenda. Good luck and have fun.

[LordNothing]

thats a very classic inventory. hunchies and cents are still pretty solid (though do try the hunch iics). atlas and stalker are still reasonably good. i use phracts a lot and i still like them.

granted you now have op mechs like kodiaks and urbanmechs to watch out for.

[Ziogualty]

You are lucky!
You left a game that was almost broken in most basic aspects.
I had the same experience too, and coming back is awesome if you look at the crazy things that made us mad.
Remember the old Mechlab? Forget it! Now is smurfy-like, it's clear accessible and functional.
Trees now falls if you walk on them! You can find some fauna on Viridian Bog, and the small statues on River city does not block you anymore.
Graphic is better overall, more smooth and pleasing. Some more maps, many (tons) of new mechs.
Poptart is not a nightmare anymore, weapons are more balanced and fights more fun.
Still looks like a never ending Early access in some aspects (FW on top), but if you love Battletech and Mechwarrior, now the game offers everything needed to be playable.

Your mechs are still good mostly, and btw NEVER SELL MECHS! You can always expect some adjustments that can turn a crappy mech into an OK one now that quirks were introduced.

TL;DR: Give it a try! You have enough mechs, you know what to expect from the core aspects of the game, and you can always leave if you feel that what PGI did is not enough.

Edited by Attank, 17 November 2016 - 10:03 AM.

[Hellsgate9999]

Well, I don't want to spend money until I know I will play it for awile and all my mech bays are full so I want to sell a couple of varents at least to clear up some space for some of these new guys. Unless I can get mech bays now with in game currency?

I will probably get rid of my stalkers and my awesome, if noone has any opinions on it, I never much cared for the stalkers honesty.

I ended up leaving not because of balance issues, I left because they were not adding in any new game mods and on top of that I played this so much I just ended up burning out.

I read somewhere that clan mechs are better all the way around, is that true? If so why wouldn't I just sell everything and buy a bunch of clan stuff?

[Mike McSullivan]

Welcome back!

About real money/mechbays: We have "events" going on nearly every 2 weeks, where you can win good stuff up to mechbays, MC and other stuff thats normally only available by using real ca$h. And compared to the early "events" when only the top 5 players earned something, now nearly everyone gets away with some goodies, depending on the time invested.

If you absolutely must sell mechs...(this lets my heart cry mentears)...go with the Dragons and/or Awesomes. Stalkers are actually very good IS-Workhorses.

Edit: I guess if you would sell all mechs (cry even more...) for clanrobots you would possibly end with only 2(!) new toys-they are expensive(*).

(*)its only relative. Clanmechs come with nearly all upgrades that are possible. There are some differences between Clan-Omnimechs and Clan-Battlemechs (look for other sections of this forums to get more info), but with IS mechs you have lower initial "shop"-prices. Upgrading them costs sometimes the same sum additionaly.

Edited by Mike McSullivan, 17 November 2016 - 11:24 AM.

[Cy Mitchell]

Hellsgate9999, on 17 November 2016 - 10:42 AM, said:

Well, I don't want to spend money until I know I will play it for awile and all my mech bays are full so I want to sell a couple of varents at least to clear up some space for some of these new guys. Unless I can get mech bays now with in game currency?

I will probably get rid of my stalkers and my awesome, if noone has any opinions on it, I never much cared for the stalkers honesty.

I ended up leaving not because of balance issues, I left because they were not adding in any new game mods and on top of that I played this so much I just ended up burning out.

I read somewhere that clan mechs are better all the way around, is that true? If so why wouldn't I just sell everything and buy a bunch of clan stuff?

On December 3rd they are hosting the first ever Mechcon in Vancouver. We have been promised many interesting announcements such as new Assault mode, new skill tree, new never done before something, and more stuff. Before you sell any of the Mechs remember that you need 3 variants with all basic skills done before you can Master a chassis. If you do not have other Mechs in that weight class elited then you also need to elite three Mechs before you can Master one. With the changes that are being announced in just over two weeks time, I would recommend waiting to sell Mechs until you see how the changes may affect your stable.

I left before the Academy Tutorial was implemented so I was able to do it and get the Recruit Bonuses on the first 25 games which amounted to about 23 million C-Bills. If you have not done that yet then make sure you do. It can go a long way towards customizing a couple of your chassis to make them competitive. Or you can buy a new Mech.

[XxXAbsolutZeroXxX]

Hellsgate9999, on 17 November 2016 - 10:42 AM, said:

Well, I don't want to spend money until I know I will play it for awile and all my mech bays are full so I want to sell a couple of
I read somewhere that clan mechs are better all the way around, is that true? If so why wouldn't I just sell everything and buy a bunch of clan stuff?

The resale value of inner sphere mechs is very low.

While the base price of clan mechs is very high.

If you sold everything you have it wouldn't give you many c-bills.

Enough to buy a few clan mechs. Probably not a lot of buying power. And you might miss the mechs you sold later without having had a chance to compare them to clan mechs.

Like Rampage said above the academy offers good cbill earnings for completing challenges.

There are clan trial mechs that can be test driven without owning them. That could be a good place to start.

[Stefan the Usurper Amaris]

Hellsgate9999, on 17 November 2016 - 10:42 AM, said:

I read somewhere that clan mechs are better all the way around, is that true? If so why wouldn't I just sell everything and buy a bunch of clan stuff?

Clan mechs can be great if handled well. Unlike their IS counterparts, the weapons are well advanced (to learn more on clans you should visit sarna.net) to the point of being... OP... but it does come at the cost of somewhat greater heat. Certainly they have range over most IS but recently the cLPL has been significantly reduced.

If you plan to sell a mech, sell at least one. I know some say dont but hey, gotta make room right? Someone mentioned the Hunchback llc, i myself dont pilot Clan mechs for obvious reasons but i have heard they are decent to use so try that one out and hope u get the feel of it. Also, there are two types of Clan mechs, Omnimechs and 2nd Line mechs. 2nd line mechs are your typical, if not, IS versions of most. Simple mechs with clantech. Of course they all have hard points like the IS version.

Omnimechs are the advanced tech of the Clans. What makes them unique are the Omnipods. Each Omnimech carries an omnipod that is interchangeable between the same chassi. Example would be that there is a Prime Variant, Alt A, B, C, D, S, etc. There pods can be swapped. A Prime variant can use a pod from an A variant, B variant. Where as a B variant can use Prime variant pods. But they all have quirks and keeping all 8 pods the same opens the quirks. Once you mix those pods, you lose the quirks. Some quirks are fixed.

Another thing to note about Omnimechs is that all their equipment is FIXED. Engine, Armor type, and Internal Structure, even the Double Heatsinks that are fixed into the mech cannot be changed. So if you do plan on selecting an Omnimech, choose well or ask around what Omnimech may be suitable to begin with.

And welcome back!

[RestosIII]

Welcome back!

Hellsgate9999, on 17 November 2016 - 09:48 AM, said:

#1 question though, is the community still pretty awesome?

Depends on your opinion of anime gifs If you hate 'em, you better run now.

I'm not very good at outlining balance or recommending mechs due to me being a crazy lore person that runs builds from TT, but I will tell you that LRMs have been hit hard repeatedly since when you played, and we're still attempting to get PGI to help them recover. The current meta is shifting back to gauss+PPC ATM.

[MechaBattler]

Hellsgate9999, on 17 November 2016 - 09:48 AM, said:

So I used to play mwo all the time, I stopped playing right before it was out of beta. I wasn't around for the clan mechs so I have no idea what's going on there.

I'm pretty much asking, what have I missed? What has changed? There are so many new mechs it's crazy.

I have 3 hunchbacks 2 dragons 2 atlas 3 stalkers a couple centurions an awesome aaand o a few caterphracts . Maybe a few more I don't remember.

Are those all still viable or are they old and crappy now? Lol is there a few i should sell because they are not good anymore?

what have they changed? What weps are good ? What weps are bad? When I played lrms and ppcs were considered over powered. What's the new meta look like?
Any other information I need to know?


#1 question though, is the community still pretty awesome?

Thanks alot guys ☺


Sorry I can't figure out how to edit that, just so it's more readable I own

Hunchbacks
Centerions
Atlas
Awesome
Stalker
Dragons
Caterphracts

I'm totally willing to sell the ones that are no longer very good to make room for some of those new bad boys.

Thanks

Be sure to do the Mechwarrior Academy tutorials for a nice stack of C-bills.

SRMs are finally good thanks to them fixing the hit registration on them a while ago. On the IS side you can fire 3 large lasers/Large Pulse without ghost heat penalty. Clans only 2. But you also want to build around what quirks the mech has. Or don't, if that's your style.

Clans being better is more of an on average thing. The IS has had way more mechs and not all of them meet the meta. But they've since released more Clan mechs and there's more variety on the field. But Meta to Meta, I would give it to the Clans as being stronger. But that's just me. Especially after a Kodiak evaporated the armor right off my Atlas. Though recent C-UAC changes on the larger Clan UACs has leveled the playing field.

[Davers]

Hellsgate9999, on 17 November 2016 - 09:48 AM, said:

So I used to play mwo all the time, I stopped playing right before it was out of beta. I wasn't around for the clan mechs so I have no idea what's going on there.

I'm pretty much asking, what have I missed? What has changed? There are so many new mechs it's crazy.

I have 3 hunchbacks 2 dragons 2 atlas 3 stalkers a couple centurions an awesome aaand o a few caterphracts . Maybe a few more I don't remember.

Are those all still viable or are they old and crappy now? Lol is there a few i should sell because they are not good anymore?

what have they changed? What weps are good ? What weps are bad? When I played lrms and ppcs were considered over powered. What's the new meta look like?
Any other information I need to know?


#1 question though, is the community still pretty awesome?

Thanks alot guys ☺


Sorry I can't figure out how to edit that, just so it's more readable I own

Hunchbacks
Centerions
Atlas
Awesome
Stalker
Dragons
Caterphracts

I'm totally willing to sell the ones that are no longer very good to make room for some of those new bad boys.

Thanks

Everyone is lying to you. Your mechs are all totally outdated and outgunned. Newer mechs do everything your mechs do, plus more.

[Tordin]

RestosIII, on 17 November 2016 - 11:45 AM, said:

Welcome back!



Depends on your opinion of anime gifs If you hate 'em, you better run now.

I'm not very good at outlining balance or recommending mechs due to me being a crazy lore person that runs builds from TT, but I will tell you that LRMs have been hit hard repeatedly since when you played, and we're still attempting to get PGI to help them recover. The current meta is shifting back to gauss+PPC ATM.

Dont forget that the lurms 20 have gotten a tighter, down to the spread of the lrm 15 system. Its not much, but its something at least. And in the right direction, heck as far as I gathered, people are willing to atleast try out lrm 20 now

[Hellsgate9999]

MechaBattler, on 17 November 2016 - 01:07 PM, said:

Be sure to do the Mechwarrior Academy tutorials for a nice stack of C-bills.

I did the time trial race thing and got gold, I thought that one was the only one that payed, I also did the one where you just run until you die, that one didn't pay. Are there other trials that pay?

Davers, on 17 November 2016 - 01:37 PM, said:

Everyone is lying to you. Your mechs are all totally outdated and outgunned. Newer mechs do everything your mechs do, plus more.

That would be unfortunate, means I would pretty much be starting over from scratch.

[RestosIII]

Hellsgate9999, on 17 November 2016 - 04:11 PM, said:

I did the time trial race thing and got gold, I thought that one was the only one that payed, I also did the one where you just run until you die, that one didn't pay. Are there other trials that pay?


That would be unfortunate, means I would pretty much be starting over from scratch.

Trust me, your mechs aren't as bad as he's claiming. The forums just have some salty people that claim "Clans OP!", and others that claim "IS OP!" constantly. Also, hunchbacks, stalkers, and to an extent awesome are still reliable machines. Would get a bit more in-depth, but posting from a phone with Arby's Wi-Fi ATM.

[Hellsgate9999]

RestosIII, on 17 November 2016 - 04:26 PM, said:

Trust me, your mechs aren't as bad as he's claiming. The forums just have some salty people that claim "Clans OP!", and others that claim "IS OP!" constantly. Also, hunchbacks, stalkers, and to an extent awesome are still reliable machines. Would get a bit more in-depth, but posting from a phone with Arby's Wi-Fi ATM.

That's good to hear, if you don't mind I would like a little in depth when you get a chance. Hunchbacks was/is my favorite mech and my first mech I bought. I am happy to hear they are still viable.

I have been reading up on some other mechs I own and really it's pretty back and forth on some of them. Like you said, some saying they suck and others saying they are still good. Some I own like the dragon for example seems to be disliked universally. Which makes sense, it wasn't really top teir be for but if it sucks are red bad as people are saying it will make me sad, I liked using the dragon, same with the Caterphracts. Everyone seems to agree they suck, it is expecially bad for me since those are the only 2 hero mechs I bought. Lol figures.

Sorry for the spelling/grammatical errors. I am on my phone.

[Ziogualty]

@Hellsgate999: Don't forget there is a code around for a free Centurion (with a mech bay). And Centurions are fun, good, and reliable in the medium class. More you can use them if you like to try FW Scouting. Even your Huncies (a bit less than Cents imho) fit the description. Dragons were always "meh" and Cata "was" a very good mech, still has a couple of "ok" variants. Atlas..is Atlas: it rocks!, and Stalker is a good missile platform or a very good "high mount" laser platform. Awesome still has same pros (few) and cons more or less, at least they look better now

[Davers]

Hellsgate9999, on 17 November 2016 - 04:11 PM, said:

I did the time trial race thing and got gold, I thought that one was the only one that payed, I also did the one where you just run until you die, that one didn't pay. Are there other trials that pay?


That would be unfortunate, means I would pretty much be starting over from scratch.

Well, at least they aren't trial mechs.

[RestosIII]

Hellsgate9999, on 17 November 2016 - 05:20 PM, said:

That's good to hear, if you don't mind I would like a little in depth when you get a chance. Hunchbacks was/is my favorite mech and my first mech I bought. I am happy to hear they are still viable.

I have been reading up on some other mechs I own and really it's pretty back and forth on some of them. Like you said, some saying they suck and others saying they are still good. Some I own like the dragon for example seems to be disliked universally. Which makes sense, it wasn't really top teir be for but if it sucks are red bad as people are saying it will make me sad, I liked using the dragon, same with the Caterphracts. Everyone seems to agree they suck, it is expecially bad for me since those are the only 2 hero mechs I bought. Lol figures.

Sorry for the spelling/grammatical errors. I am on my phone.

Hunchbacks: They're still reliable little machines, just with the current amount of weapons fire flying around nowadays their role as a glass cannon got a bit more glass than cannon.

Centurions: I can't really speak for them since I've never run them, but I've heard good things about the Cent D and AH. The few times I do see them in matches, they still carry their own weight pretty well.

Atlas: Dear lord those things still scare the bejeesus out of me if I run into one. Tanky as all hell, king of close range brawling/pushing for the IS still IMHO.

Awesomes: They got some love to make the PPC and missile builds actually decent again, still wide as a barn though, so you need to be ready for that.

Stalkers: Definitely not the powerhouse they were back when 6 PPC stalkers were a thing, but they're sturdy and still incredible at hill poking. And hey, LRM 20's just got a buff, maybe someone should check out the LRM 100 build again and see how it fairs now?

Dragons: This right here is depressing. They aren't doing so hot ATM, and in general I'd advise you avoiding them unless you want a proper challenge, or your love of the design outweighs the cons.

Cataphracts: They're still beasts in their tiny niche of being able to fire on enemies where going over a ridge isn't necessary, but their gorilla arms require that situation for them to be worth it. Not the easiest mechs to pilot, I can tell you that.

I will say, if you want to stick with some classic IS mechs, the Catapult got some major love recently with the rescale, and I actually see it a decent amount nowadays. If you want a "new" IS mech, the Marauder and Warhammer are beautiful, and I'd highly recommend them.

[Cy Mitchell]

Here is a very recent player ranking of all the Mechs that you may find interesting. It will give you an idea where the Mech you own stand versus the newer Mechs that were released since you left.
The Mech standings were voted on by a broad spectrum of players from casual to competition level skilled.

https://docs.google....#gid=1954608450

Full credit goes to Tarogato for doing all the work on it.