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[Mr3]

Hi all,

I was chatting to a friend yesterday and discussing the leg destruction issue. I remember back in the beta days when a leg was destroyed it was visibly removed from the mech in game (not just in the target information window). I vaguely remember this was done because of the extra physics load or something like that. Does anyone remember the real reason that has not found it's way into the final game or have a link to an old discussion? I've googled a bit and searched the forum but can't find the old reference.

Thanks,
3

[Juodas Varnas]

I don't think the legs were EVER visually removed from the models.
The only game that was the case in that i remember was Mechwarrior 2, i think?

[vibrant]

I would imagine it'd look... really odd... seeing a mech walking around with one leg, impossibly balanced. ^^

[Kotzi]

Dude, just imagine an Atlas crawling towards the enemy. Epic!

[ChapeL]

I don't recall that ever beinbg a thing in MWO Beta. In fact I'm certain it wasn't.

[QuantumButler]

Mr3, on 26 November 2016 - 01:57 AM, said:

Hi all,

I was chatting to a friend yesterday and discussing the leg destruction issue. I remember back in the beta days when a leg was destroyed it was visibly removed from the mech in game (not just in the target information window). I vaguely remember this was done because of the extra physics load or something like that. Does anyone remember the real reason that has not found it's way into the final game or have a link to an old discussion? I've googled a bit and searched the forum but can't find the old reference.

Thanks,
3

This was never a thing, mechs have always limped upon leg destruction.

[WarPickle]

Ditto... I have no memory of the leg visually disappearing? Were you drunk and high when you played Well I played from the first closed beta and not alpha.... was it a thing in the alpha?

[Hunka Junk]

Mr3, on 26 November 2016 - 01:57 AM, said:

Hi all,

I was chatting to a friend yesterday and discussing the leg destruction issue. I remember back in the beta days when a leg was destroyed it was visibly removed from the mech in game (not just in the target information window). I vaguely remember this was done because of the extra physics load or something like that. Does anyone remember the real reason that has not found it's way into the final game or have a link to an old discussion? I've googled a bit and searched the forum but can't find the old reference.

Thanks,
3

When I started playing, I didn't like that legs didn't disappear, but if you think about it, mechs limping on a disabled leg looks better than them hopping on one. In terms of physics, it also makes more sense for the leg to still be providing some kind of support.

Now, if you could disable a leg and then go for a whole second level of total destruction, it would be pretty sweet watching an atlas spin around the ground still trying to kill people. But that's just a dream.

[Mr3]

WarPickle, on 26 November 2016 - 03:29 AM, said:

Ditto... I have no memory of the leg visually disappearing? Were you drunk and high when you played Well I played from the first closed beta and not alpha.... was it a thing in the alpha?

Lol, beginning to think I must have been. I have played since alpha so it's possible.

[RAM]

WarPickle, on 26 November 2016 - 03:29 AM, said:

was it a thing in the alpha?

It was not.

Mr3, on 26 November 2016 - 04:12 AM, said:

I have played since alpha so it's possible.

Not according to your join date.


RAM
ELH

[Shiroi Tsuki]

Imagining my Direwolf Daishi and Centurion limping in one leg be like

[Trollfeed]

vibrant, on 26 November 2016 - 02:03 AM, said:

I would imagine it'd look... really odd... seeing a mech walking around with one leg, impossibly balanced. ^^

In battletech you automatically fall down when losing leg but can try to get up and continue hopping around in one leg. But it's extremely hard because you'll need a very good pilot and a guy who's really lucky with dice. Legging mech is practically death sentence, so I understand why removing legs aren't on the game because of pinpoint fire.

[TELEFORCE]

In MWO, leg destruction appears to be the analog of a hip critical hit in the tabletop game, which is pretty crippling. It takes down the speed of a 'mech significantly and makes it harder to pilot. At that point, you're better off making your way back to your lines or else eject.

[Y E O N N E]

RAM, on 26 November 2016 - 06:18 AM, said:

It was not.


Not according to your join date.


RAM
ELH

Join date only shows when you started posting on the forums. I've been playing since Feb 2014 but my forum profile shows April.

[Mr3]

There is a hugely busy forum post on the pro's and con's of leg destruction and what should happen. I'm not really taking a view on that and happy for status quo. I was just thinking it would be good to have a visual queue on the model that leg 'A' is effectively dead and you should be aiming for leg 'B'. The targeting info panel can be a bit confusing on which leg you should be aiming for.

[RestosIII]

RAM, on 26 November 2016 - 06:18 AM, said:

It was not.


Not according to your join date.


RAM
ELH

Yeah, don't trust join date usually. I started playing right when the game left CBT, then took a huge break right before the Clans dropped. But since I had never posted on the forums back then, it claims I joined October 1st, 2015.

Mr3, on 26 November 2016 - 01:43 PM, said:

There is a hugely busy forum post on the pro's and con's of leg destruction and what should happen. I'm not really taking a view on that and happy for status quo. I was just thinking it would be good to have a visual queue on the model that leg 'A' is effectively dead and you should be aiming for leg 'B'. The targeting info panel can be a bit confusing on which leg you should be aiming for.

Personally, I'd rather keep legging from being an even easier option than it is currently. People highly underestimate how easy it to leg people, especially since there's almost no way to shield your legs. Having even more of a visual representation would make it that much easier.

Edited by RestosIII, 26 November 2016 - 01:49 PM.

[Suko]

What I would like is to have a better visual feedback for a destroyed leg. I want it to look like nothing but scrap metal held together with bundles of wire. The limping effect should also make it incredibly obvious which leg is broken. When the mech is limping, the broken leg should be nothing more than a stick it puts its weight on temporarily while shifting to the better foot.

[RAM]

Yeonne Greene, on 26 November 2016 - 12:17 PM, said:

Join date only shows when you started posting on the forums. I've been playing since Feb 2014 but my forum profile shows April.

False.

RestosIII, on 26 November 2016 - 01:48 PM, said:

I started playing right when the game left CBT

Which is a completely different date than when it left the Alpha.


RAM
ELH

[Y E O N N E]

RAM, on 26 November 2016 - 06:25 PM, said:

False.

Wrong.

Edited by Yeonne Greene, 26 November 2016 - 07:33 PM.

[Quxudica]

Mr3, on 26 November 2016 - 01:57 AM, said:

Hi all,

I was chatting to a friend yesterday and discussing the leg destruction issue. I remember back in the beta days when a leg was destroyed it was visibly removed from the mech in game (not just in the target information window). I vaguely remember this was done because of the extra physics load or something like that. Does anyone remember the real reason that has not found it's way into the final game or have a link to an old discussion? I've googled a bit and searched the forum but can't find the old reference.

Thanks,
3

I was here back in early closed beta, destroyed legs were never visibly removed from a mech in MWO. It would make no sense for them to be since MWO allows movement with one functional leg, something that simply wouldn't be possible if it was actually torn off (walking anyway).