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[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

inb4 powercreep.


Really though, just imagine what the MDD could do with 2 high mounted PPCs, its current high accel and decel quirks (up to 60% on one variant), and all its extra pod space and whatever quirks get thrown at it. Could also do 2LPL+2ERML with the least exposure of any mech.

I mean they did it with the Kit Fox, why stop there? At what point does it stop being "oh, they're just making an OP variant, but its a bad mech" and start becoming an issue? Imagine the ice fridge getting a couple extra torso mounted energy hardpoints and pushing it over the edge or Hellbringer getting 2 or 3 energy hardpoints in the right torso, they already gave it an extra 1 via the loyalty variant.

[Snazzy Dragon]

This is a scary prediction and I fear it might actually come true given the latest omni pod trend.

At least those side torsos are weak and tasty.
But really, I dunno if you can flat out replace the other clammer heavies that do laser vom/high mount PPCs.

Mad dog is the best heavy missile boat next to summoner. It's a choice between more launchers and backup small pulses or durability and jumpjets.

Edited by Snazzy Dragon, 01 December 2016 - 08:11 AM.

[Appogee]

Dakota1000, on 01 December 2016 - 08:01 AM, said:

inb4 powercreep.

Errr, you're a bit late for that, unfortunately. Power has been creeping rapidly over the past year.

[Snazzy Dragon]

Appogee, on 01 December 2016 - 08:16 AM, said:

Errr, you're a bit late for that, unfortunately. Power has been creeping rapidly over the past year.

I can't wait for the Marauder IIC to phase out the Warhawk.

[The Unstoppable Puggernaut]

I like the idea, I'd like to see all mechs have a suitable set of three/four variants that at covers a good laser/ballastic/missile/ppc build.

Maddog to me is a missle boat. I've run a variant with the dual guass but while that's ok, it's low arm mounts are annoying as heck.

[Spheroid]

Big deal, one can build an 8E Stormcrow and still move faster. Would it be better than PPC Hunchback or Nova? I don't see this as a big shakeup.

Edited by Spheroid, 01 December 2016 - 08:32 AM.

[Shiroi Tsuki]

Sorry, I just had to

[RestosIII]

Shiroi Tsuki, on 01 December 2016 - 08:38 AM, said:

Sorry, I just had to

[Kasumi Sumika]

Kristen Redmond's Mad Dog from Battletech Cartoon?

[CK16]

I call this Mech needs to be Ghost Bear! You green Pigeons and Red Puppies get away!

[0bsidion]

Dakota1000, on 01 December 2016 - 08:01 AM, said:

inb4 powercreep.


Really though, just imagine what the MDD could do with 2 high mounted PPCs, its current high accel and decel quirks (up to 60% on one variant), and all its extra pod space and whatever quirks get thrown at it. Could also do 2LPL+2ERML with the least exposure of any mech.

I mean they did it with the Kit Fox, why stop there? At what point does it stop being "oh, they're just making an OP variant, but its a bad mech" and start becoming an issue? Imagine the ice fridge getting a couple extra torso mounted energy hardpoints and pushing it over the edge or Hellbringer getting 2 or 3 energy hardpoints in the right torso, they already gave it an extra 1 via the loyalty variant.

I'd prefer ballistics in the STs personally, but even with those mounts in your pic, the MDD would never be a metamech. It's been a favorite of mine since my TT days though and the only reason I don't play it more is because the heavy queue tends to be so bloody saturated. I might be tempted to get a MDD hero, powercreep hard point locations aside.

[Shiroi Tsuki]

CK16, on 01 December 2016 - 10:10 AM, said:

I call this Mech needs to be Ghost Bear! You green Pigeons and Red Puppies get away!

Say no more my fellow Dominion-er

[TercieI]

Appogee, on 01 December 2016 - 08:16 AM, said:

Errr, you're a bit late for that, unfortunately. Power has been creeping rapidly over the past year.

"What are you talking about?"

--KDK-3, Purifier, ThunderNipple Summoner, et al.

Edited by TercieI, 01 December 2016 - 10:23 AM.

[ChapeL]

I'd expect Missile omni pods for arms honestly.

[Lucian Nostra]

Shiroi Tsuki, on 01 December 2016 - 08:38 AM, said:

Sorry, I just had to

I... I need this. But I'd prefer the Warhorn goes "Wow!"

[RestosIII]

Lucian Nostra, on 01 December 2016 - 10:36 AM, said:

I... I need this. But I'd prefer the Warhorn goes

FTFY

[El Bandito]

And here I am, imagining what the Archers can do with a high mounted cockpit.

[0bsidion]

TercieI, on 01 December 2016 - 10:23 AM, said:

"What are you talking about?"

--KDK-3, Purifier, ThunderNipple Summoner, et al.

Well, in the past I don't think PGI did power creep on purpose, it was mostly incidental if a mech happened to turn out particularly good. But the game has been around long enough I do think after so much ranting and raving it has finally sunk into their heads part of what makes a mech better. There's no canon artwork I can find that shows a Linebacker with over-the-shoulder laser mounts for instance.

So yeah, a year ago I would have argued with anyone that said PGI was intentionally power creeping, but since we're starting to see these hardpoint locations on mechs that don't have it canonically I can't really defend them on that anymore. Just when I thought my respect for them couldn't get any lower, they find a way.

[XxXAbsolutZeroXxX]

Shiroi Tsuki, on 01 December 2016 - 08:38 AM, said:

Sorry, I just had to

Reminds me of this game.



https://dogeminer.se/

[TercieI]

0bsidion, on 01 December 2016 - 10:59 AM, said:

Well, in the past I don't think PGI did power creep on purpose, it was mostly incidental if a mech happened to turn out particularly good. But the game has been around long enough I do think after so much ranting and raving it has finally sunk into their heads part of what makes a mech better. There's no canon artwork I can find that shows a Linebacker with over-the-shoulder laser mounts for instance.

So yeah, a year ago I would have argued with anyone that said PGI was intentionally power creeping, but since we're starting to see these hardpoint locations on mechs that don't have it canonically I can't really defend them on that anymore. Just when I thought my respect for them couldn't get any lower, they find a way.

LOL.

Re: the LBK, though, I think it needed that bit of help. They actually did a great job making a mech that looked really awful on paper into something fun, unique and workable, though not OP. I assume it was an accident, of course.