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[El Bandito]

They should do a "Design a Mech" competition with prizes. As talented as Alex is in drawing good looking mechs, I think many of us can come up with our own design that is also worth buying with cash, which will then be adapted to MWO by their design team. Thousand brains are better than one, after all.

Maybe the IS can finally get a mech that is not quirk-crutched? Who am I kidding...

Edited by El Bandito, 05 December 2016 - 01:45 AM.

[naterist]

eh, imma say no, just due to the reaction from fans at the roughneck. maybe after mw5 mercs and pgi gets more credit under its belt. mechcon was a great step forward in that regard, but there not to the point were they can do that and not get lynched yet. maybe after mw5 proves itself people would be more ok with that...

[GreyNovember]

The catch is this entire fanbase seems to be allergic to anything that wasn't made past year 30xx.

"UGH, DARK AGE NEVER HAPPENED"

"UGH, CLANS NEVER HAPPENED"

Etc.

I could submit something aesthetically pleasing and practical to play, but if there's going to be a storm of nostalgia warriors, what's the point? It'll just be shot down with their 3025 era AC2s.

[El Bandito]

GreyNovember, on 05 December 2016 - 01:36 AM, said:

The catch is this entire fanbase seems to be allergic to anything that wasn't made past year 30xx.

"UGH, DARK AGE NEVER HAPPENED"

"UGH, CLANS NEVER HAPPENED"

Etc.

I could submit something aesthetically pleasing and practical to play, but if there's going to be a storm of nostalgia warriors, what's the point? It'll just be shot down with their 3025 era AC2s.

Show me a post that says Clans never happened. Some people think pre-Clan MWO would have had much better balance (which is true), but I have not seen a single person who said Clan never happened.

naterist, on 05 December 2016 - 01:31 AM, said:

eh, imma say no, just due to the reaction from fans at the roughneck. maybe after mw5 mercs and pgi gets more credit under its belt. mechcon was a great step forward in that regard, but there not to the point were they can do that and not get lynched yet. maybe after mw5 proves itself people would be more ok with that...

I personally hate the idea of non-canon mechs in MWO, but PGI had already opened the genie's bottle. Also, the reaction of the player base toward the Roughneck was not overwhelmingly negative. There were many who are fine with it.

Edited by El Bandito, 05 December 2016 - 01:44 AM.

[Imperius]

GreyNovember, on 05 December 2016 - 01:36 AM, said:

The catch is this entire fanbase seems to be allergic to anything that wasn't made past year 30xx.

"UGH, DARK AGE NEVER HAPPENED"

"UGH, CLANS NEVER HAPPENED"

Etc.

I could submit something aesthetically pleasing and practical to play, but if there's going to be a storm of nostalgia warriors, what's the point? It'll just be shot down with their 3025 era AC2s.

Yeah I'm about to hack sarna and raid the paper vaults for tro's and just blanket all mech dates to 3015 with randals initials by them and that should fix this unnecessary stigma of oh it's a mech past this date it's gross because I have to keep my "pure BT image"

News flash to some of you even Jordan Wiseman likes the clans...

[GreyNovember]

El Bandito, on 05 December 2016 - 01:42 AM, said:

Show me a post that says Clans never happened. Some people think pre-Clan MWO would have had much better balance (which is true), but I have not seen a single person who said Clan never happened.


I personally hate the idea of non-canon mechs in MWO, but PGI had already opened the genie's bottle. Also, the reaction of the player base toward the Roughneck was not overwhelmingly negative. There were many who are fine with it.

A poorly worded exxageration by me, but I'm certain someone out there is going to be on that line of thinking.

By definition though, the roughneck *is* canon. Which is probably where it's rubbing people like a file.

"I refuse to accept this as canon" as opposed to " this is now officially canon. "

Like the dune novels.

[naterist]

El Bandito, on 05 December 2016 - 01:42 AM, said:

I personally hate the idea of non-canon mechs in MWO, but PGI had already opened the genie's bottle. Also, the reaction of the player base toward the Roughneck was not overwhelmingly negative. There were many who are fine with it.

ya, im with you there. im in other threads defending it too. but its a hard sell atm, and what your suggesting is a bit to far out of reach.

[AnTi90d]

GreyNovember, on 05 December 2016 - 01:49 AM, said:

By definition though, the roughneck *is* canon. Which is probably where it's rubbing people like a file.

"I refuse to accept this as canon" as opposed to " this is now officially canon. "

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Apocryphal

The subject of this article is exclusively described in apocryphal sources, i.e. in official BattleTech products that do not fall under the current definition of canon. Consequently, the subject of this article may not be canonical.

See the article's section on Canonicity for details.

Edited by AnTi90d, 05 December 2016 - 01:57 AM.

[STEF_]

So, El.... you wanna ruin mwo totally, eh.....

[El Bandito]

Stefka Kerensky, on 05 December 2016 - 01:57 AM, said:

So, El.... you wanna ruin mwo totally, eh.....

Maybe this way I can finally get my MISSILE BOATING ASSAULT HERO! Dammit PGI, what is the damn holdout?

[GreyNovember]

AnTi90d, on 05 December 2016 - 01:56 AM, said:

Canon definition

Eh, considering it had lore written for it?

It's now a question of when, not if it is.

[Carl Vickers]

Loved reading all the BT books, read the first 2 DA novels and stopped there, DA was and is crap but I can see what they were doing with DA and the Jihad, universe reset.

Still, doesnt mean it was good for the BT universe.

[STEF_]

El Bandito, on 05 December 2016 - 01:59 AM, said:

Maybe this way I can finally get my MISSILE BOATING ASSAULT HERO! Dammit PGI, what is the damn holdout?

Ask for lore!

[El Bandito]

Stefka Kerensky, on 05 December 2016 - 02:11 AM, said:

Ask for lore!

Missile boating ASSAULT hero. Yeoman is a Heavy. And a filthy 60 tonner at that.

So far, not even a whisper about the Longbow, or a Blood Kite. I am getting sick and tired of waiting. And since I want something in the range of 85-90 tons, Spirit Bear is a no-no.

Edited by El Bandito, 05 December 2016 - 02:18 AM.

[STEF_]

El Bandito, on 05 December 2016 - 02:13 AM, said:

Missile boating ASSAULT hero. Yeoman is a Heavy.

So far, not even whisper about the Longbow. I am getting sick and tired of waiting.

Perfect! 95 tonner incoming.
Ask for lore!

[ice trey]

El Bandito, on 05 December 2016 - 01:59 AM, said:

Maybe this way I can finally get my MISSILE BOATING ASSAULT HERO! Dammit PGI, what is the damn holdout?

Nobody bought them a copy of TRO 3055, so they've never heard of the Salamander or Naginata (Though figuring out how to deal with the C3 Master comp would be a whole other kettle of fish, and/or they only have the super old 3025 from the first print run that doesn't include the Longbow.

What irritates me about the non canon designs are not that by putting them out, they're preventing actual canon designs from being released. Still waiting to be able to use a Whitworth, Javelin, and Charger 1A5, 1A9, and 3K... Plus, the Thug and Crockett/Katana could be interesting

Edited by ice trey, 05 December 2016 - 02:23 AM.

[AnTi90d]

El Bandito, on 05 December 2016 - 02:13 AM, said:

Missile boating ASSAULT hero. Yeoman is a Heavy. And a filthy 60 tonner at that.

So far, not even a whisper about the Longbow, or a Blood Kite. I am getting sick and tired of waiting.

I'd only be interested in a Longbow if PGI could:

1.) Figure out how to split critical slots between a torso section and its arm.

2.) Give us Arrow missiles.

(Then, we could also have the Bowman for the clams.)

[STEF_]

ice trey, on 05 December 2016 - 02:17 AM, said:

What irritates me about the non canon designs are not that by putting them out, they're preventing actual canon designs from being released.

^^^100000000 times this!!!^^

Ask for lore!

[El Bandito]

Stefka Kerensky, on 05 December 2016 - 02:15 AM, said:

Perfect! 95 tonner incoming.
Ask for lore!

Which still requires PGI to actually make the Hero version to boat missiles. I remember having high hope for the Stalker Hero to be able to boat LRMs back in 2013, but Misery turned out to be a DF mech. That was a disappointment.

[DivBy0]

A "MISSILE BOATING ASSAULT HERO"
This is what we need!
And please with this Quirks
"Ask teammembers to hold their locks 50%"
"Ask teammembers to enter the circle 40%"
"Give a push order and stand behind 30%"
and a built in warhorn witch say "Hold your target and I let it rain" and "I have 2000 missiles... I give you support!"

I would buy it :-)

El Bandito, on 05 December 2016 - 01:59 AM, said:

Maybe this way I can finally get my MISSILE BOATING ASSAULT HERO! Dammit PGI, what is the damn holdout?