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[Paigan]

Dr Wubs, on 06 December 2016 - 03:40 AM, said:

I'm a busy person and will be way too busy to grind 75k exp on three of them.

In fact, I don't really want three of any mech I have pre-ordered. Same reason.

Three is now an obsolete, if not excessive number.

Please change this imminently.

Give me an option to buy 1.

Buying a Mech is not the same as buying a car or 3 cars. This is indirectly retroperspectively crowdfunding a design process.
People generally don't understand the difference between abstract content (like software and art) and hardware.
It takes like 95% of the work to develop the first variant of the Mech and then 5% to develop everything else.

You don't pay 3 times a third of $20 for 3 variants.
You pay $20 for the 'Mech per se and you get 2 additional variants gratis in the smallest package.

For the same reason, you don't get 6 variants for $40, but only 4 and additional gimmicks. You participate more in the funding process and get stuff to show that off.


If you only want 1 variant, sell the 2 bonus variants immediately. But the Mech is (preordered) $20.

Edited by Paigan, 06 December 2016 - 01:28 PM.

[Chuck Jager]

Burke IV, on 06 December 2016 - 09:47 AM, said:

The only way to handle the skill tree that is even and fair to all is for an unlocked mech under the old system to mean an unlocked mech under the new one.

Hopefully, on all but the best mechs, you will get what the original tree gave you. Then you will need to level additional quirks and specialties (replace modules). Lower performing mechs will probably get even more low hanging fruit. The Kodiak will probably only have what the original tree gave plus one module/specialty, and it will transfer at 1/2. Even then, it may still be the grand master.

[Radbane]

Mechpacks this and that. What Worries me the most is the diversety and suprises in battle. With the (as we know it) the new Skill tree this will dissapear. You'll never see one of the Non-ECM lights ever, you'll probably only see the KDK-3 and none of the variants. I do not care if it took 5 mintutes to make these obsolete non-competative variants, I care about fun out on the field.

[Angel of Annihilation]

Mike McSullivan, on 06 December 2016 - 07:58 AM, said:

75 Points per mech. 10.000XP(*) per point> 750k XP per mech for all "skills"
(*) was shown in the top right corner of the presentationscreen.


I still guess it was just a showcase. Everything above 2000 Xp per point would be hillarious.
OR, the maximum # of skills will be around 10 (+X for bad mechs, -X for topmetamechs)


@Dr Wubs: I am scratching my head right now how and when i should "level up" my Supernovas ^^

Russ just twittered that the numbers in the video were placeholders and said it won't be 750k per mech to master so it might not be as bad as we all feared.

[Dr Wubs]

Paigan, on 06 December 2016 - 01:24 PM, said:

Buying a Mech is not the same as buying a car or 3 cars. This is indirectly retroperspectively crowdfunding a design process.
People generally don't understand the difference between abstract content (like software and art) and hardware.
It takes like 95% of the work to develop the first variant of the Mech and then 5% to develop everything else.

You don't pay 3 times a third of $20 for 3 variants.
You pay $20 for the 'Mech per se and you get 2 additional variants gratis in the smallest package.

For the same reason, you don't get 6 variants for $40, but only 4 and additional gimmicks. You participate more in the funding process and get stuff to show that off.


If you only want 1 variant, sell the 2 bonus variants immediately. But the Mech is (preordered) $20.

I have no interest in sophistry nor someone who is not a company representative speaking for the company involved.

Where is the option to buy 1? $10. That's generous. A third of 20 would be less than $7.

Concerned,

DW

Edited by Dr Wubs, 06 December 2016 - 06:40 PM.

[Pika]

Dr Wubs, on 06 December 2016 - 06:39 PM, said:

I have no interest in sophistry nor someone who is not a company representative speaking for the company involved.

Where is the option to buy 1? $10. That's generous. A third of 20 would be less than $7.

Concerned,

DW

That is not on offer. You currently have two options:

A: Buy the product as is at a rather cheap $20 for the basic package.
B: Don't.

That's it. Perhaps PGI may change their approach to 'mech packs in the future, but the ones currently on sale will likely never change as people have already bought the product.

Edited by Pika, 06 December 2016 - 06:43 PM.

[Ted Wayz]

Leave it to PGI to develop a skill system that defeats their macro transaction model...