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[Brenden]

Like, seriously. I can understand wanting to go for a broader market, but why the hell did FASA change the design of the mechs around? I mean, look at them!
Hermes II

Archer

Hunchback

Dragon

Panther

Chameleon

I know the Japanese are all into this curvy, smooth, bulbous design for their mechs, but come on FASA. That's just offensive.

[Bombast]

I'm not sure if you're trying to lay bait for a Harmony Gold thread on purpose, or if you're just bumbling your way into one.

EDIT: Also, offensive? ***** sake.

Edited by Bombast, 06 December 2016 - 08:43 PM.

[Gaden Phoenix]

Wait a minute , is FASA still alive? Also first time I am seeing this designs. Did not know they did a Japanese version of Battletech for Japan.

Also offensive? How so? I do not catch your conversation ball.

Also alas, why MWO Phoenix Hawk no look like (it is epic!):

Edited by Gaden Phoenix, 06 December 2016 - 08:47 PM.

[El Bandito]

Japanese market has... different taste. I'm just surprised that those mechs cannot transform into ultra mode.

Edited by El Bandito, 06 December 2016 - 08:45 PM.

[Revis Volek]

For the same reason Car companies make cars that look different in different countries.

Sales, Safety, Laws, Consumer Reasons, Materials available, aesthetics...

The list really can go on forever.

Edited by Revis Volek, 06 December 2016 - 08:44 PM.

[Brenden]

But come on, what was the problem with shipping the original designs!

[Carl Vickers]

Wasp and Stinger that looked like Macross mechs as well, models were taken from different artists to make life easier for BT creators and appeal to different markets.

If you dont like them, dont look at them, posting them on this forum is just a troll bait post.

[El Bandito]

Brenden, on 06 December 2016 - 08:45 PM, said:

But come on, what was the problem with shipping the original designs!

Original designs are too ugly and sluggish for modern Japanese tastes. Form > function.

[razenWing]

Brenden, on 06 December 2016 - 08:45 PM, said:

But come on, what was the problem with shipping the original designs!

For one, I don't like ninja looking humanoid.

[Bombast]

Brenden, on 06 December 2016 - 08:45 PM, said:

But come on, what was the problem with shipping the original designs!

Some of the original artwork from the first editions of battletech were purchased from a company that claimed they owned the rights to the art in the US. The story of how that turned out is a **** show for another time.

What that means here, however, is that FASA didn't have the rights to some of their mechs in Japan because of the artwork, so they had to redo them, and they did some of the original ones as well for consistency.

[Brenden]

Gaden Phoenix, on 06 December 2016 - 08:44 PM, said:

Wait a minute , is FASA still alive? Also first time I am seeing this designs. Did not know they did a Japanese version of Battletech for Japan.

Also offensive? How so? I do not catch your conversation ball.

Also alas, why MWO Phoenix Hawk no look like (it is epic!):

Sadly no, this I came across a long time ago while looking for Sarna.

Bombast, on 06 December 2016 - 08:49 PM, said:

Some of the original artwork from the first editions of battletech were purchased from a company that claimed they owned the rights to the art in the US. The story of how that turned out is a **** show for another time.

What that means here, however, is that FASA didn't have the rights to some of their mechs in Japan because of the artwork, so they had to redo them, and they did some of the original ones as well for consistency.

Alright for consistency I can understand, but did the Stalker - AKA The Blimp - really have to undergo THIS much plastic surgery?

[Gaden Phoenix]

El Bandito, on 06 December 2016 - 08:46 PM, said:

Original designs are too ugly and sluggish for modern Japanese tastes. Form > function.

What? Form > Function... Those Japanese Mechs are so overpowered.


They can fly at the speed of light, transform and ****. Also deflect laser beams

[Bombast]

Brenden, on 06 December 2016 - 08:52 PM, said:

Alright for consistency I can understand, but did the Stalker - AKA The Blimp - really have to undergo THIS much plastic surgery?

I guess you didn't so much want answers, but just to *****.

Have fun with that.

[Lyoto Machida]

I thought this was a troll thread...you guys are saying this was actually canon FASA artwork for the Japanese market???

[Brenden]

Gaden Phoenix, on 06 December 2016 - 08:53 PM, said:

What? Form > Function... Those Japanese Mechs are so overpowered.


They can fly at the speed of light, transform and ****. Also deflect laser beams

And this is why I don't like Japanese Mecha anime. Nothing seems grounded in realism.

Bombast, on 06 December 2016 - 08:55 PM, said:

I guess you didn't so much want answers, but just to *****.

Have fun with that.

Damn right.

Lyoto Machida, on 06 December 2016 - 08:56 PM, said:

I thought this was a troll thread...you guys are saying this was actually canon FASA artwork for the Japanese market???

Yes!

Lyoto Machida, on 06 December 2016 - 08:56 PM, said:

I thought this was a troll thread...you guys are saying this was actually canon FASA artwork for the Japanese market???

http://www.gearsonli...ies/battletech/

[Bombast]

Lyoto Machida, on 06 December 2016 - 08:56 PM, said:

I thought this was a troll thread...you guys are saying this was actually canon FASA artwork for the Japanese market???

Yes and no.

FASA contracted someone else to make them, so yes, it's official work. But it's non-canon and I don't think actually owned by Catalyst, so they're kind of treated as 'Unseen.' Their actually legal status is beyond me, though my guess is that neither the guys who drew them, nor Catalyst, give a **** about them.

[Brenden]

Bombast, on 06 December 2016 - 09:02 PM, said:

Yes and no.

FASA contracted someone else to make them, so yes, it's official work. But it's non-canon and I don't think actually owned by Catalyst, so they're kind of treated as 'Unseen.' Their actually legal status is beyond me, though my guess is that neither the guys who drew them, nor Catalyst, give a **** about them.

Legal or not, at least the Spider finally looks good in some form.

[Gaden Phoenix]

Lyoto Machida, on 06 December 2016 - 08:56 PM, said:

I thought this was a troll thread...you guys are saying this was actually canon FASA artwork for the Japanese market???

Battletech is actually the postal child of "re-interpretation". The mechs of Battle Tech Mmechs have modified forms so many times... what is the real design?

Even when you compare old Battletech lore books to new Battletech lore books to Mechwarrior series to MWO. They are all re-interpretations.

Like how America changes all ethnicities of heroes in movies to white, like how Superman costume and looks always change, etc. Battletech Mech design changes to suit the new designer, the audience and the times.

Edited by Gaden Phoenix, 06 December 2016 - 09:09 PM.

[RestosIII]

Brenden, on 06 December 2016 - 08:57 PM, said:

And this is why I don't like Japanese Mecha anime. Nothing seems grounded in realism.

I don't know what you're talking about, Evangelion is totally realistic! Geometry kills!

Edited by RestosIII, 06 December 2016 - 09:09 PM.

[Kasumi Sumika]

When Battletech have to approach target audiences at Japanese at the time FASA ask Studio Nue and this guy to redesign.






All hail our Lord and Mech Father, Shoji Kawamori!