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[Vxheous]

Kmieciu, on 10 December 2016 - 01:29 AM, said:

Clans have the best short range laser (CSPL) and the best long range laser (CLPL). All that is left for IS is the mid range with IS LPL.
I'll bet we will see a lot of 2xLPL 6xERML or SPL Marauders filled to the brim with heat sinks.

I guess, except the Marauder IIc looks pretty chunky so unless it gets durability quirked like the Linebacker, it's going to get torn up and torn up fast.

[Navid A1]

With machine guns getting that much needed buff,

The new piece of garbage crown goes to.... Clan ER LL!

[Dee Eight]

Rayden Wolf, on 10 December 2016 - 12:43 AM, said:

Prepare for 7 MG Shadowcats

I might actually have to put the P pods back onto my P chassis.

Now those 6 MG KCGs will feel extra useful... and if you're gonna shrink the gauss range could you get rid of the charge mechanic next month ? It does help nerf the PPC/Gauss combo a bit since the ranges no longer overlap so closely.

Oooohhhh and armor bonuses on the victor....

Edited by Dee Eight, 10 December 2016 - 02:06 AM.

[Aleski]

Dee Eight, on 10 December 2016 - 02:00 AM, said:

I might actually have to put the P pods back onto my P chassis.

Now those 6 MG KCGs will feel extra useful... and if you're gonna shrink the gauss range could you get rid of the charge mechanic next month ? It does help nerf the PPC/Gauss combo a bit since the ranges no longer overlap so closely.

My Arrow and my Ember are waiting for dat patch too..... Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...

Ho and at the last sale, i've bought a Loup de Guerre and now it is buffed ! Nice ! =)

[GweNTLeR]

Finally PGI listens to players! That's the best balancing patch in like...a year?

[Rayden Wolf]

Kmieciu, on 10 December 2016 - 01:29 AM, said:

Clans have the best short range laser (CSPL) and the best long range laser (CLPL). All that is left for IS is the mid range with IS LPL.
I'll bet we will see a lot of 2xLPL 6xERML or SPL Marauders filled to the brim with heat sinks.

Wasnt there the a CLPL-Range nerf back in the day? They should be similar to the IS now.

[Belkor]

I always thought Long Toms could be similar to artillery in Battlefield 2. In Battlefield 2, the commander decided where to drop the artillery on the map with a cooldown. Everyone got ample warning and time to get away from the incoming artillery with a big red glaring indicator on their minimap. You don't have turn around looking for a colored smoke cloud like you had to in MWO. This artillery was not overpowered but it still served its tactical purpose in holding certain areas.

[Warchild Corsair]

Wow, those FP changes look really cool!

Think I must rally my unit to fight in FP more - those Bears are not going to keep our beloved NEW BERGEN!

[The Unstoppable Puggernaut]

Retrofits for clan wave 1 mechs !!!!!!

I could almost cry.

I skimmed these patch notes and all I can say is..... Yes !

Very excited to see how Escort works and if FP is worthwhile now. Am I assuming each match will take less time and there's no more 4 drops per match though?

[Ovion]

1: Machine Gun Buffs are MUCH needed. This will help.
It would be nice if they'd have just left the lights with MG quirks, with the higher MG quirks, as they're often under-performing anyway - and I don't think the buffs will be enough to carry that alone.

2: The honestly minor buffs to lights are a good start.
Long way to go though.

3: 100% explode chance on Gauss why? That's absurd.
90% was already absurd...
A guaranteed explosion on crit is absolutely ridiculous.

Overall it looks like a REALLY solid patch though.

[Marius Romanis]

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DISABLE QUICK PLAY FOR A DAY WHEN THIS LAUNCHES OR AT LEAST ADD AN ADVERTISEMENT TO THE QUICK PLAY BUTTON TELLING PEOPLE FACTION PLAY HAS CHANGED ! AND LAUNCH ESCORT MODE A WEEK AFTER THE FP/CW CHANGES ! or our playerbase is going to be split again

[Duke Nedo]

Victors and machineguns in the same patch, God damn!

[Cy Mitchell]

Rayden Wolf, on 10 December 2016 - 02:15 AM, said:

Wasnt there the a CLPL-Range nerf back in the day? They should be similar to the IS now.

Yeah, back in the day like last patch (Nov) when their maximum range got cut down to 840 from something like 1100.

Ovion, on 10 December 2016 - 02:53 AM, said:

1: Machine Gun Buffs are MUCH needed. This will help.
It would be nice if they'd have just left the lights with MG quirks, with the higher MG quirks, as they're often under-performing anyway - and I don't think the buffs will be enough to carry that alone.

2: The honestly minor buffs to lights are a good start.
Long way to go though.

3: 100% explode chance on Gauss why? That's absurd.
90% was already absurd...
A guaranteed explosion on crit is absolutely ridiculous.

Overall it looks like a REALLY solid patch though.

I am actually kind of OK with the Gauss explosion chance, The IS has their XL engine that will take them out on crit. Now, the Clan has a Gauss that will put the hurt on them if it goes. Carrying them in a side torso just got a bit more risky.

[Racerxintegra2k]

Last patch AC5's and UAC5's become unplayable for me. Now this patch i fear SRMS will be unplayable. They are moving us to Long range sniping/poking which i absolutely hate. Oh well cant make everyone happy.

[Cy Mitchell]

Racerxintegra2k, on 10 December 2016 - 04:46 AM, said:

Last patch AC5's and UAC5's become unplayable for me. Now this patch i fear SRMS will be unplayable. They are moving us to Long range sniping/poking which i absolutely hate. Oh well cant make everyone happy.

At least they reduced the max range of the Gauss a bit. Plus if I can open up the armor and get close with my machine guns that thing is gonna go BOOM every time now. Well, the Clan ones will at least.

[WindFlow]

InnerSphereNews, on 09 December 2016 - 09:37 PM, said:

Machine Gun
• Damage increased to .95 (from .8)
• Spread decreased by 60%



Clan Machine Gun
• Damage increased to .95 (from .8)
• Spread decreased by 60%
• Component Health decreased to 5 (from 10)

Can someone help clarify why the machine gun is stated here as 0.8 damage, when in the mechlab it is 0.08?
I can only assume that 10 shots are fired in a second, which would equal 0.8 damage per second.

........and yes i relise the damage is going to be increased.

[DoctorDetroit]

Great patch notes, I will experiment if victors and machine gun builfs again. Cw looks well thought out too.

[tee5]

Rayden Wolf, on 10 December 2016 - 02:15 AM, said:

Wasnt there the a CLPL-Range nerf back in the day? They should be similar to the IS now.

energy-weapons IS and Clan ordered by their optimal range:

IS-sml-pulse-laser 110m 220m
IS-small-laser 150m 300m
Clan-sml-pulse-laser 165m 297m
Clan-small-laser 200m 360m
IS-med-pulse 220m 440m
IS-medium-laser 270m 540m
Clan-med-pulse-laser 330m 561m
IS-lrg-pulse-laser 365m 730m
Clan-er-med-laser 405m 688m
IS-large-laser 450m 900m
IS-PPC 540m 1080m
Clan-lrg-pulse-laser 600m 840m
IS-ER-large-laser 675m 1350m
Clan-ER-large-laser 740m 1480m
IS-ER-PPC 810m 1620m
Clan-ER-PPC 810m 1620m

note: the IS-lrg-pulse laser is between Clan-med-pulse-laser and Clan-ER-med-laser
the Clan-lrg-pulse-laser is near the IS-ER-large-laser

Edited by tee5, 10 December 2016 - 05:35 AM.

[Cy Mitchell]

W E N D I G O, on 10 December 2016 - 05:11 AM, said:

That Gauss nerf... I'll take a CERPPC with heatsinks and TC any day before loading up that crap into any of my mechs. Especially with the heatsink changes in this patch there is no reason to rig your Omnis with explosives for a meager velocity advantage at ultra long ranges coupled with ammo dependancy and that cooldown when you can go for all energy builds with specific weapon groups for long and short range encounters. Ignorant decision.

If you tried to adress the scary PPFLD builds with 2xCERPPC+2xGauss builds you should have done this in a similar fashion like the Gauss only-two-at-a-time rule. Whatever. But not like this. It's simply yet another nerf for the Gauss weapon, which strangely enough was fine for years without charge up and lower cooldown.

Together with recent ballistic nerfs for clans and the new heatsink buff you ran a nice circle to reintroduce the clan-energy-only metagame. Not that I would have anything against it, but you'll soon see where this ends up.

EDIT: Gauss ammo dependancy (which also can easily get destroyed even if not harmful) - especially with FW getting multiple new modes all with respawn... good job.

EDIT_2: Oh, now I have accusive thoughts about creating sale incentives regarding the Supernova and Marauder IIC...

Remember that cLPL got normalized in November with a big reduction in max range so it is not all about inspiring everyone to go laser vomit again. Clan erLL still suck too because of duration. I think they are just trying to rein in weapon damage and range a bit to increase TTK and make more play styles viable.

[LordLosh]

Having a hard time taking this all in. All I have heard lately is laser vomiting, power draw(cancel delayed?), clan op. Now you buff heatsinks nerf gauss nerf srm. With faction play and respawns your a damn fool if your deck isn't all laser vomit..... two new clan Meta laser prime mechs for sale... but I'll go to positive MG buff nice Victor armor buff nice focus on faction play and listening that quick match modes easy transition.