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#21 Y E O N N E

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 06:09 AM

View PostWintersdark, on 14 December 2016 - 03:42 AM, said:

I heard the Arrow didn't lose its mg RoF perks? It was supposed to but didn't?


It did lose them.

Also, what lasers are you guys trying to run on your Embers? MedLas burn too long, I use four MedPulse.

#22 Tristan Winter

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 06:12 AM

View PostYeonne Greene, on 14 December 2016 - 06:09 AM, said:


It did lose them.

Also, what lasers are you guys trying to run on your Embers? MedLas burn too long, I use four MedPulse.

2MPL, 2SPL. Only way I've found that doesn't sacrifice too much speed / jump jet / MG ammo.

4 SPL feels too weak.

#23 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 07:54 AM

View PostRequiemking, on 13 December 2016 - 11:54 PM, said:

It used to be good. Then it was fair. Then the rescale screwed it and every other 30+ ton Light mech in game(other than the Cheetah).

there's almost always something "better". I don't care about that. I don't care about optimal, I only care about viable.

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 07:58 AM

I bet it's a secret PGI plot to sell MG based hero mechs before they nerf mgs into the ground just in time for the next major patch, to end the terror of the 6mg spider once and for all.

Edited by Snazzy Dragon, 14 December 2016 - 07:58 AM.


#25 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 07:59 AM

View PostMischiefSC, on 14 December 2016 - 12:46 AM, said:

King Crab.

6x MGs.

2 LPLs

2x SRM6A

STD 350

ammo.

DHS.

DO EET.

DWF-W

#26 Bud Crue

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 08:00 AM

Tried all my existing MG mechs last night, the Arrow felt: meh. The Huggin though with 2SRM 4s and 4MGs felt reborn. My resistance Mauler was as fun as always but the MGs are just a bonus (2PPCs, 4Asrm6s and 4MGs).

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 08:03 AM

View PostYeonne Greene, on 14 December 2016 - 06:09 AM, said:


It did lose them.

Also, what lasers are you guys trying to run on your Embers? MedLas burn too long, I use four MedPulse.

If I was worried about burn time, I would go SPL. MPL require you to give up way too much. And I've never had a problem with MLs in 4 years of MWO... don't see it happenign now.

View PostTristan Winter, on 14 December 2016 - 06:12 AM, said:

2MPL, 2SPL. Only way I've found that doesn't sacrifice too much speed / jump jet / MG ammo.

4 SPL feels too weak.

I still like real JJs, not just meta use 1-2 hoverJJs, so not going to give it up. Honestly, for teamplay...I'd consider dropping the laser entirely and going back to flamers. (not remotely comp, most likely, honestly don't even know how many flamers are "optimal"... but stunlock, chainsaw wielding beaver, is hilarious when it works)

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 14 December 2016 - 08:04 AM.


#28 Y E O N N E

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 08:04 AM

Running as fast as an ACH and losing one JJ doesn't seem like giving up much, but y'all do y'all.

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 08:06 AM

View PostBud Crue, on 14 December 2016 - 08:00 AM, said:

Tried all my existing MG mechs last night, the Arrow felt: meh. The Huggin though with 2SRM 4s and 4MGs felt reborn. My resistance Mauler was as fun as always but the MGs are just a bonus (2PPCs, 4Asrm6s and 4MGs).

Hmmm that reminds me my Black Widow.... never was willing to run nipplehammers, so might have to try near stock

#30 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 08:10 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 13 December 2016 - 11:41 PM, said:

that's fine by me. It's 35 tons..not exactly a ninja.... I just am having fun making "DoA" mech work.....


Yeah, this is why I like running the old Dragon Slayer nowadays. It did just get buffed though.

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 08:12 AM

View PostYeonne Greene, on 14 December 2016 - 08:04 AM, said:

Running as fast as an ACH and losing one JJ doesn't seem like giving up much, but y'all do y'all.

Would love to know where you get the extra 4 tons. Unless you mean by "giving up 1 jj" by meaning all you ever run was 1 JJ in typical meta build manner?

EMBER
same build that's been on it since Embers WERE the Meta.

View PostGas Guzzler, on 14 December 2016 - 08:10 AM, said:

Yeah, this is why I like running the old Dragon Slayer nowadays. It did just get buffed though.

haven't worked my way back the the VTRs yet..... I'm so bitter after the last 2.5 or so years on them..... SMH

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 08:19 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 14 December 2016 - 08:12 AM, said:

Would love to know where you get the extra 4 tons. Unless you mean by "giving up 1 jj" by meaning all you ever run was 1 JJ in typical meta build manner?


On the Ember, all I ever had before was two. I usually opted for a heatsinks and more ammo. On the others, I retain a full suite.

There are so few realistic builds for the Ember that I don't think you can really sling the "meta" excuse around as any significant insult.

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 09:08 AM

View PostYeonne Greene, on 14 December 2016 - 08:19 AM, said:

On the Ember, all I ever had before was two. I usually opted for a heatsinks and more ammo. On the others, I retain a full suite.

There are so few realistic builds for the Ember that I don't think you can really sling the "meta" excuse around as any significant insult.

you know, any time one references meta, it's not an insult. So, IDK, get over it? It's referenced as a simple fact that the meta approach tends to be to strip all but 1-2 JJ for skimming purposes, and go.

Got to love the internet. Everyone always looking to be insulted.

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 09:28 AM

Quote

I bet it's a secret PGI plot to sell MG based hero mechs before they nerf mgs into the ground just in time for the next major patch, to end the terror of the 6mg spider once and for all.


lol did you steal my tin hat

Edited by Davegt27, 14 December 2016 - 09:29 AM.


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Posted 14 December 2016 - 09:37 AM

View PostDavegt27, on 14 December 2016 - 09:28 AM, said:


lol did you steal my tin hat


No, I merely.. borrowed it for an extended period of time.
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