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[Karl Marlow]

GreyNovember, on 14 December 2016 - 08:37 PM, said:

I was looking for a more technical explanation. I mostly got " My fantasy idea of really cool " from that.

As inrecall mechs are actually supposed to be as nimble as humans are. That's why they tie balance to the human middle ear. That's the lore anyway. In MWO the movement is way more.stiff than it should be. It should have a more human or birdlike gait depending on the leg setup. .

Edited by Karl Marlow, 15 December 2016 - 02:34 AM.

[GreyNovember]

Karl Marlow, on 15 December 2016 - 12:33 AM, said:

As inrecall mechs are actually supposed to be as nimble as humans are. That's why they tie balance to the human middle ear. That's the lore anyway. In MWO the movement is way more.stiff than it should be. It should have a more human or birdlike gait depending on the leg setup. .

Given this, would neurohelmets allow human proprtion mechs to do, say, karate?

Do weapon equipped mechs come with weapon trained pilots, so they can effectively use their weapon?

[Tristan Winter]

I'd like to see melee weapons. Punching and kicking would be difficult to do, particularly in terms of animation. It's going to look daft. And throwing a kick against someone who isn't standing still in front of you requires a bit of coordination. I don't think it would work, ever. Not to mention that a Dire Wolf kicking a Kodiak to death would look dumb as hell.

[Valhallan]

Steinar Bergstol, on 15 December 2016 - 12:24 AM, said:

An Atlas does 10 points of damage in TT with its punch and can punch with both arms with hits being located on the upper half of the target (greater chance of headshot because of this). It also has a 20 point kick (but of course can only use one leg to kick in a round. No jumping splitkicks for Atlases ). Kicks hits the legs or, if the mech is standing one elevation level above the target then it hits like a punch.

The basic formula is: Punch does mech tonnage/10 damage. Kick does mech tonnage/5 damage.

Physical attacks from an assault mech hit _hard_!

THB Mace on an berserker with TSM was hilarious, 80 damage in 1 shot, enough to core anything or rip any section to bits with transfer to the next

[Karl Marlow]

GreyNovember, on 15 December 2016 - 02:36 AM, said:

Given this, would neurohelmets allow human proprtion mechs to do, say, karate?

Do weapon equipped mechs come with weapon trained pilots, so they can effectively use their weapon?

In theory. Melee isn't exactly the prefered mode of attack for most mechs so I doubt a great deal of time is spent practicon karate as a mech. Mechs are expensive after all. That said in tabletop there are traits like melee master. You could say those are pilots that translate martial arts into ther mech movements.

[Beaching Betty]

Nah, I dont support this melee thing

[Steinar Bergstol]

I want to be able to punt leghumping lights across the map, darnit!

[The Unstoppable Puggernaut]

I like where this is going, giggity.

Throw melee and the bucketmech and my MW dreams will come true.
I wanna kill someone with a dumpster bucket like in Dark Age !!!

[rolly]

El Bandito, on 14 December 2016 - 06:58 PM, said:

Crysis the game had melee, so there is no reason why this game shouldn't have one as well. PGI did improve collision code this patch so melee is closer to implementation, I hope. I'd imagine an Atlas punches as hard as an AC20 round.

I'm just gonna reuse this one.
VIP would be interesting...



They'd need a special game mode named: BRAWL.

Its just mechs in a huge mech sized bar with tables, chairs and beer bottles. Or even a train yard, factory with tons of stuff to grab and smash into each other. Then you'd get special consumables like: Baseball bat, Axe, Sword, Rock, Steel I beam, etc.

Edited by rolly, 15 December 2016 - 06:11 AM.

[JP Josh]

bring back knock downs and then they can add punching.

[Metus regem]

El Bandito, on 14 December 2016 - 06:58 PM, said:

Crysis the game had melee, so there is no reason why this game shouldn't have one as well. PGI did improve collision code this patch so melee is closer to implementation, I hope. I'd imagine an Atlas punches as hard as an AC20 round.

AC/10 round... a punch does 1/10th mech weight rounded up... Kicks, axes, clubs and maces do 1/5th rounded up...

Valhallan, on 15 December 2016 - 02:49 AM, said:

THB Mace on an berserker with TSM was hilarious, 80 damage in 1 shot, enough to core anything or rip any section to bits with transfer to the next

yup... it's why when I see those things on the other side of the table, I focus fire on them HARD! I've had a mech take one of those 80 point hits....RA-->RT-->CT

[GabrielSun]

Snazzy Dragon, on 14 December 2016 - 08:37 PM, said:

A good balance opportunity for IS vs Clan: make melee exclusive to IS mechs since clans often found melee dishonorable except in very special circumstances

Well, it is literally bringing a knife to a gun fight, so maybe it drifted from just thinking it was incredibly stupid to dishonourable over the generations to prevent their lower populations from being wasted trying to get into melee range with a slow-moving mech.