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[The6thMessenger]

So i got my Shadow-Hawk 2H, and i gotta say it's a damn work horse. It has good armor, good tonnage, and pretty damn fast -- by fast, it moves fast, turns fast, with 360 it can move even at 100+ KPH. Of course with XL for good heavy weapons, but the hitboxes isn't really that bad as i can easily spread damage.

But i sincerely didn't know what to build. I don't want to waste the missile hardpoints, so i tried 3x SRM4, and then bounced between LB10X and AC10 for ppfld skirmishing. The other is 2x AC5. I couldn't find a good build that i'd like to stay with.

Anyways, remember MW:5 Mercs?



701 + 1

Would that work? I merely upgraded the engine to XL, to DHS and Endo-Steel, the AC5 to AC10 (40 ammo), added another LRM5 (270 ammo) rack since it would have tighter spread with less tonnage than a single LRM10A, and the head with SRM4 (100 ammo), also replaced the ML with LL. It has less JJs and heat sinks though.

Restos, would you approve of that "upgraded lore" build?

Edited by The6thMessenger, 25 December 2016 - 03:53 AM.

[Y E O N N E]

Eh, the best way to run it, IMHO, is 2x AC/5 + 1x AC/2. Strong dakka with that one. If I want missiles, I have the SHD-2D2.

[jss78]

I rather like AC/10 Shadow Hawks -- if you're going with a single ballistic, it's IMO the sweet spot weapon (decent punch, manageable weight).

But it's the wrong variant for this: the others give more missile and/or energy hardpoints for backup weapons (2D/2D2/GD).

In MWO terms the niche of the 2H is the multiple-ballistic builds.

[The6thMessenger]

jss78, on 25 December 2016 - 02:29 AM, said:

I rather like AC/10 Shadow Hawks -- if you're going with a single ballistic, it's IMO the sweet spot weapon (decent punch, manageable weight).

But it's the wrong variant for this: the others give more missile and/or energy hardpoints for backup weapons (2D/2D2/GD).

In MWO terms the niche of the 2H is the multiple-ballistic builds.

I'm going to get 2D2 and K next.

[Lupis Volk]

I couldn't make my mind up so i went with the mastery bundle.

[El Bandito]

The6thMessenger, on 25 December 2016 - 01:12 AM, said:

So i got my Shadow-Hawk 2H, and i gotta say it's a damn work horse. It has good armor, good tonnage, and pretty damn fast -- by fast, it moves fast, turns fast, with 360 it can move even at 100+ KPH. Of course with XL for good heavy weapons, but the hitboxes isn't really that bad as i can easily spread damage.

But i sincerely didn't know what to build. I don't want to waste the missile hardpoints, so i tried 3x SRM4, and then bounced between LB10X and AC10 for ppfld skirmishing. The other is 2x AC5. I couldn't find a good build that i'd like to stay with.

It has 25% ballistic cooldown so there is only one thing you need to boat.



AC5s and/or AC2s.

[QuantumButler]

The6thMessenger, on 25 December 2016 - 01:12 AM, said:

So i got my Shadow-Hawk 2H, and i gotta say it's a damn work horse. It has good armor, good tonnage, and pretty damn fast -- by fast, it moves fast, turns fast, with 360 it can move even at 100+ KPH. Of course with XL for good heavy weapons, but the hitboxes isn't really that bad as i can easily spread damage.

But i sincerely didn't know what to build. I don't want to waste the missile hardpoints, so i tried 3x SRM4, and then bounced between LB10X and AC10 for ppfld skirmishing. The other is 2x AC5. I couldn't find a good build that i'd like to stay with.

Anyways, remember MW:5 Mercs?



701 + 1

Would that work? I merely upgraded the engine to XL, to DHS and Endo-Steel, the AC5 to AC10 (40 ammo), added another LRM5 (270 ammo) rack since it would have tighter spread with less tonnage than a single LRM10A, and the head with SRM4 (100 ammo), also replaced the ML with LL. It has less JJs and heat sinks though.

Restos, would you approve of that "upgraded lore" build?

Ew gross.

the 2H is kind of one of the worst variants, way back in the day I used to run it with 2AC5 and a medlas but this was before clans.

3 lrm5s is just awful though, the 3 srm4 + lbx10 build is way better [but is just a 2D2 that is worse]

give this a try, 2ac5s, xl300, erlargelas.
here, try this build http://mwo.smurfy-ne...2a0b991b9b6fd50

That's pretty much what I used to run way back in the day I think, the high ac5 mounts and 2 jjs let you poke from cover real well, and you can swing the erll around like a lightsaber for easy assists or to finish off components you ac5s don't get. .

e: forgot to allocate half a ton.

Edited by QuantumButler, 25 December 2016 - 03:45 AM.

[QuantumButler]

QuantumButler, on 25 December 2016 - 03:32 AM, said:

Ew gross.

the 2H is kind of one of the worst variants, way back in the day I used to run it with 2AC5 and a medlas but this was before clans.

3 lrm5s is just awful though, the 3 srm4 + lbx10 build is way better [but is just a 2D2 that is worse]

here, try this build http://mwo.smurfy-ne...d6ae343d31bff91

That's pretty much what I used to run way back in the day I think, the high ac5 mounts and 2 jjs let you poke from cover real well, and you can swing the erll around like a lightsaber for easy assists or to finish off components you ac5s don't get. .

[Iain Black]

triple AC2 with XL or double LB10 with 200 standard engine. anything else on the 2H is a waste

the K runs well with 3 LL or ERLL or a bit slower with 3 LPL.

2D2 you can turn into a decent SRM+ArtIV boat or a 4 LRM5 boat.

the SHD is one of the most fun mechs in the game, imho.

[jss78]

The6thMessenger, on 25 December 2016 - 02:50 AM, said:

I'm going to get 2D2 and K next.

Anyway, I see where you're going with the first post, I guess a superstock build which tries to keep all the basic weapon types.

Of course the first piece advice is...

Spoiler

...don't do it. But that said I have one of my Shadow Hawks set up like this.

What I did was take the 2D, put in DHS/XL/Endo, and then swap AC/5 for AC/10, add two more ML's, and add a second LRM5. So in essence that's a 29 point direct-fire alpha and halfway useful LRM salvos for backup. SHD-2D LoreHawk

It's of course strictly inferior to all those energy-boat SHD-2K builds, but it does ... OK in pug queue. Lots of fun to run, micromanaging all those weapon groups is just more ...battle-mechy than mashing a single mouse button for win.

[Acehilator]

Triple AC/2 >>> all. A goddamn freakin' monster. Playing it makes you feel dirty, lol. My second-highest performing IS mech, third-highest overall.