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#1 Nesutizale

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Posted 26 December 2016 - 06:10 AM

Why is the Steiner 1v1 map behind a paywall? I played it with a friend lately and its fun and I like it but its not worth buying premium time to play it, at least in my opinion.

So what you guys think? Should it remain nessessary to have two people with prime time to play the map or should it be a free map?
(Note: Not a Quickplay map just a private match map without the premium time need)

Also on a side note...you can't start the game with two people, one in each team because you don't have a "full team"?
Why is it still asking for 2x12 people if its a 1v1 map.

#2 Felbombling

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Posted 26 December 2016 - 07:08 AM

PGI will say they are a smaller company and need you to pay for the server space. As to getting in and starting a match, don't join as a group. Let one player start the lobby and invite the other player to it.

#3 RestosIII

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Posted 26 December 2016 - 12:06 PM

View PostNesutizale, on 26 December 2016 - 06:10 AM, said:

Also on a side note...you can't start the game with two people, one in each team because you don't have a "full team"?
Why is it still asking for 2x12 people if its a 1v1 map.


Need 2 people with premium to be able to switch that setting to not requiring full teams. It's stupid. Makes it almost impossible for me to get honor duels with people.

#4 Snazzy Dragon

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Posted 26 December 2016 - 12:33 PM

View PostRestosIII, on 26 December 2016 - 12:06 PM, said:


Need 2 people with premium to be able to switch that setting to not requiring full teams. It's stupid. Makes it almost impossible for me to get honor duels with people.



You're still on for that nova prime stock duel. ;l

But yes, I would rather see a perpetual set of lobbies with spectating and cycling 1v1s from the spectators, and an AFK timer + auto kick when not dueling and you've been hogging space in the server for too long. That way anyone can go enjoy it and PGI only pays for a few servers rther than a server every time a 1v1 is set up.

#5 RestosIII

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Posted 26 December 2016 - 12:36 PM

View PostSnazzy Dragon, on 26 December 2016 - 12:33 PM, said:

You're still on for that nova prime stock duel. ;l


I rebought it last night. Next time I see you IG, we're on.

#6 Snazzy Dragon

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Posted 26 December 2016 - 12:37 PM

View PostRestosIII, on 26 December 2016 - 12:36 PM, said:


I rebought it last night. Next time I see you IG, we're on.

:D

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Posted 26 December 2016 - 12:57 PM

View PostSnazzy Dragon, on 26 December 2016 - 12:33 PM, said:



You're still on for that nova prime stock duel. ;l

But yes, I would rather see a perpetual set of lobbies with spectating and cycling 1v1s from the spectators, and an AFK timer + auto kick when not dueling and you've been hogging space in the server for too long. That way anyone can go enjoy it and PGI only pays for a few servers rther than a server every time a 1v1 is set up.

That is basically how it works, and why premium time is required. Private matches are hosted on a separate server that isn't running matchmade games, and the premium toll pays for it. If you want the servers to run special custom game setups for you and your friends, this doesn't seem like an unreasonable cost.

#8 Jman5

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Posted 26 December 2016 - 01:08 PM

The frustrating thing about it is that you're actually devaluing the worth Premium time. Think about it. You pay money to PGI to get half of a key to play custom private lobby games. Then you gotta find someone else with the other half of the key to actually get the benefit of something YOU ARE PAYING PGI for.

PGI is simply double dipping on a subscription service by forcing two people to pay to launch 1 match. There is just no way that you need two people paying for premium time to cover the added server costs of a few extra games per month.

#9 RestosIII

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Posted 26 December 2016 - 01:11 PM

View PostSnazzy Dragon, on 26 December 2016 - 12:37 PM, said:

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You fought well, but the outcome of our battles show that I still remain king of the lore builds. Now go, spread the word of my triumph!

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#10 Snazzy Dragon

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Posted 26 December 2016 - 03:22 PM

View PostRestosIII, on 26 December 2016 - 01:11 PM, said:


You fought well, but the outcome of our battles show that I still remain king of the lore builds. Now go, spread the word of my triumph!

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Indeed, but there are some other lore fits I could manage. The death box hunchback IIC, for example.. :P but I don't want to brag just to be royally stomped again

#11 Davers

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Posted 26 December 2016 - 07:51 PM

I wonder if PGI imagines that all Solaris players should have to run premium time.

#12 Lukoi Banacek

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Posted 26 December 2016 - 07:53 PM

View PostJman5, on 26 December 2016 - 01:08 PM, said:

The frustrating thing about it is that you're actually devaluing the worth Premium time. Think about it. You pay money to PGI to get half of a key to play custom private lobby games. Then you gotta find someone else with the other half of the key to actually get the benefit of something YOU ARE PAYING PGI for.

PGI is simply double dipping on a subscription service by forcing two people to pay to launch 1 match. There is just no way that you need two people paying for premium time to cover the added server costs of a few extra games per month.


Actually, considering only they have the #'s I'd argue that might not be true.

They actually need to force double the prem-time users to justify the expense based on our small playerbase.

#13 Shiroi Tsuki

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Posted 27 December 2016 - 12:53 AM

View PostRestosIII, on 26 December 2016 - 12:06 PM, said:


Need 2 people with premium to be able to switch that setting to not requiring full teams. It's stupid. Makes it almost impossible for me to get honor duels with people.

Fight me D:<

#14 Accused

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Posted 27 December 2016 - 12:53 AM

View PostDavers, on 26 December 2016 - 07:51 PM, said:

I wonder if PGI imagines that all Solaris players should have to run premium time.


There would be a riot.

#15 LordNothing

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Posted 27 December 2016 - 01:36 AM

needs to be a way to stack multiple 1v1 arenas into a single map and run simultaneous duels, a mini-tourney of sorts. then you can justify the server load and have a new mode to boot.

#16 MacClearly

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Posted 27 December 2016 - 01:43 AM

This is a game that you have avenues to play for free. It is very reasonable to have some aspects of only open to people who actually support the game.

#17 RestosIII

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Posted 27 December 2016 - 01:55 AM

View PostShiroi Tsuki, on 27 December 2016 - 12:53 AM, said:

Fight me D:&lt;


Make that request before 2 AM in the morning and I'll gladly take you up on it.

#18 The Lobsters

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Posted 27 December 2016 - 02:09 AM

View PostMacClearly, on 27 December 2016 - 01:43 AM, said:

This is a game that you have avenues to play for free. It is very reasonable to have some aspects of only open to people who actually support the game.


There is not enough premium only content in this game imo. There is plenty for the play4free bus w@nkers to do, subsidised by the paying players I might add.
I'd make forum access a premium feature. That's another way of saying make whining and feeling entitled a premium privilege.

Edited by The Lobsters, 27 December 2016 - 02:10 AM.


#19 RestosIII

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Posted 27 December 2016 - 02:20 AM

View PostThe Lobsters, on 27 December 2016 - 02:09 AM, said:


There is not enough premium only content in this game imo. There is plenty for the play4free bus w@nkers to do, subsidised by the paying players I might add.
I'd make forum access a premium feature. That's another way of saying make whining and feeling entitled a premium privilege.


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I've used this gif before this year, but screw it, it's the most fitting. Locking the forums behind premium? That is actually the dumbest idea I've heard all month. And that's saying a lot, considering I keep up to date with politics in the U.S.

Edited by RestosIII, 27 December 2016 - 02:20 AM.


#20 LordNothing

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Posted 27 December 2016 - 02:22 AM

the only thing that makes me entitled is the fact that i have given pgi money. more money than the game is worth imho. i dont like the fact that i have to give them more money to buy a block of premium time every time i want to play 1v1.

but i have no problem with pgi restricting players to a number of duals you can play per day. i think maybe 5 is a good number. if you want to play more than 5 duals a day fine then buy a block of premium time or maybe 5 mc per game. you could also sell arena passes. but i would expect this to come with a lobby so duelers can queue up and not have to seek eachother out. pgi could even turn a profit.

Edited by LordNothing, 27 December 2016 - 02:23 AM.






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