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[Shiroi Tsuki]

Let's say a team mate and an enemy has agreed to fight the ritual duel of Zellbrigen on a corner of the map. Would you respect their own privacy and let them do their thing or would you interfere and try getting that easy kill?

Also what's your stance of Zellbrigen in MWO?

[El Bandito]

I would not interfere, cause I have been issuing challenges myself, and was challenged on few occasions. Zellbrigen is fine, as long as both players are having fun, without causing grief for the others.

[MeiSooHaityu]

I think it is fine. I'd let them duke it out without interference.

[Chuck Jager]

Pug Q no

All that matters is my damage and a quick death to the enemy. I might challenge someone to see if they are dumb enough to not have any friends.

Basically I am not going to lose damage because somebody will start shooting on either side. I have only seen it happen again and again. It is funny watching somebody get wound up about it. Also why would somebody not want to challenge someone if they are already losing?

It is not really an option for a multi player game.

[PPC Principal]

No, i would not interfere. I challenged enemies multiple times, but a duel never happened.
Should in theory be a nice way to have a proper fight on occasions like Frozen City sniper stand-off, but you dropped in a brawler or the last enemy is kiting people to maybe get one more kill, but dragging the match for everyone else.

[Chados]

In FW, I have had instances where zellbrigen was declared and a pug running with our team did not honor the challenge after my unit mate that *was* challenged accepted. I promptly attacked our disloyal pugger, to preserve regimental honor. Because that's just how I roll.

Yes, if a Clansman challenges me and I accept, I want to be left alone to complete the rite. If I see it over comms, I will act to allow the challenge to be completed and I'll take the penalty for teamkilling if it comes to that, because honor must be preserved and interference with a lawful challenge is dishonorable in my sight. I'm Kurita by long association, though I'm a member of a Marik mercenary unit right now. As a good samurai, I honor the Dragon and try to follow the ancient code of bushi-do on the field (all in my group know, for example, that I will not participate in attacks upon Combine worlds). I respect those Clansmen who practice and uphold the traditions of their adopted factions.

Edited by Chados, 28 December 2016 - 07:01 AM.

[Bud Crue]

Back in phase 2, it was not uncommon for certain, more skilled units, to occasionally accept challenges like this in CW when it was clear that they had a match well in hand. Occasionally some a55hat would interfere, but often it would be a nice way for a group of teribads or just a beaten team to get more out of the match while also giving the victorious team the opportunity to pad their damage a bit more before the end. Alas, those teams no longer are willing to engage in this behavior. Now, if a match is a one-sided stomp, they ignore such 1v1 requests in the interest of ending the match as soon as possible.

But to the OP, 1v1s should be honored by everyone. Last time I was a spectator to one where someone on my own team decided to try for that easy kill as a spectator, the team TK-ed him (he knew it was coming).

[QuantumButler]

1v1s are legit and should be honored

[Gunner Kisiel]

I like seeing Zellbrigen in CW games it adds a certain bit of player driven flavor that PGI really couldn't and shouldn't add to the game. Just last night a member from our Unit was challenged, accepted and completed a duel. It was fun to see.

[WarHippy]

It has no place outside of FW.

[Spheroid]

There is a shocking lack of Zell now days. Zell should always be accepted, but people rather gangbang the last guy in the drop zone for some reason.

[Mystere]

Shiroi Tsuki, on 28 December 2016 - 06:41 AM, said:

Let's say a team mate and an enemy has agreed to fight the ritual duel of Zellbrigen on a corner of the map. Would you respect their own privacy and let them do their thing or would you interfere and try getting that easy kill?

One time I saw the enemy call for Zellbrigen and accepted by someone on the team, I intercepted the enemy who called it, killed him, took command of the drop, and ordered everyone to proceed to the real fight. Of course we won too.

<shrugs>

Edited by Mystere, 28 December 2016 - 08:25 AM.

[jss78]

If they managed to clearly communicate their intention, I would honour the one-on-one.

But in pug queue, I think it's a very slim chance that someone else would not interfere.

(Also, I have never actually seen this happen in pug queue.)

Edited by jss78, 28 December 2016 - 08:22 AM.

[Kasumi Sumika]

But in the PUG games, there's a big chance that some trolls out there will ruin the duel.

[cazidin]

I'd not only let them fight, if my team had the numbers I'd go there and make sure nobody interferes! I am a man of honor!

[1453 R]

I once challenged one of the two remaining members of one of Those Skirmish Games - y'know, the ones where one side or another flees and hides and drags the match out agonizingly because this idiot playerbase couldn't figure out that such is exactly what happens when you eliminate any non-slaughter means of ending the game?

Nevertheless. Called out a challenge in all chat, full shebang: "This is 1453-R, piloting a Kit Fox. I challenge (player name) to honorable single combat according to the rite of zellbrigen. Let none interfere with with this sacred contest", followed by grid coordinates. In team chat I asked the team to let me have it, we'd won the match anyways and it'd be more fun than throwing taunts back and forth while we hunted fruitlessly around Alpine for this guy.

He taunted me several times, a'course, all "you're just trying to bait me into an ambush!"...but the team let me have it, in my banged-up but still functional LRM Kit Fox (don't judge me, it was Puglandia derping. LRM Cutefoxes are hilarious). Eventually the guy showed up, and I proceeded to almost beat his Dire Whale in single combat WITH AN LRM KIT FOX before his buddy showed up, spoiled the duel, and caused my team to jump on the both of them and end them in short order over my smoldering wreckage.

It's one of the fondest memories I have of MechWarrior Online, that day I got my team to let me have a zellbrigen honor duel. To say nothing of that time I challenged Gyrok to premeditated Zellbrigen for laffs and actually made it happen - twice, in fact. I would absolutely honor a legitimate zellbrigen challenge, regardless of game mode, and wish they were more common than they are. It always spices up a game to see a little zell, and as a dedicated Clan-technology pilot I'm sorta obligated to honor duel requests, quineg?

Sadly, most people who offer zellbrigen are simply dirty Spheroid shills sullying the sacred rite in an attempt to lure the gullible into an ambush. Were it not so...

[Battlemaster56]

I will let the people duel in honor, and if I find either team try to interfere I will personally shoot down. Respect for one challenge must be uphold at all cost.

[MattNovaCat]

I've honoured the challenge by avoiding duelists, I've made the challenge and never had it accepted. Ignored usually and/or ganged up by the opponents. yeahs, the score gonna be 48-0 so why not stop spawn-camping and duel with the players who want to try and enjoy the match or maybe actually learn something. Nope, mow 'em down and hope they queue up again for another 48-0 slaughterfest.

[Pyed]

I wonder if anyone's ever tried this in a game I was in. I never have allchat on.

I pretty much only ever QP tho so prolly not.

[Lyoto Machida]

I'd honor it but wouldn't expect that from other players.

Except in the case of one poster on here who whined about Zellbrigen and players interfering. I'd interrupt any duel he was involved in, just because I said I would and I'm a man of my word.