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[Remains Intact]

Actually It's pretty clear what they are stating. "All performance partners" is what they are talking about. Then they clarify that performance partners is ALL variants from the steam bundles. It's not complicated bud.

[Bilbo]

Remains Intact, on 28 December 2016 - 03:57 PM, said:

Actually It's pretty clear what they are stating. "All performance partners" is what they are talking about. Then they clarify that performance partners is ALL variants from the steam bundles. It's not complicated bud.

Then I suggest you take the issue up with support. There is no recourse to be had here.

[Dee Eight]

No it isn't complicated even though you wish to make it that way. Never has special (S) editions ever been available for purchase for MC via the IN game store. NEVER. How complicated is that for you to understand ?

Edited by Dee Eight, 28 December 2016 - 04:07 PM.

[Remains Intact]

There is only scorn, which is exactly what keeps companies on their toes

Dee Eight, on 28 December 2016 - 03:59 PM, said:

No it isn't complicated even though you wish to make it that way. Never has (S) variants ever been available for purchase for MC via the IN game store. NEVER. How complicated is that for you to understand ?

If it hasn't happened before, then the company says it's happening... I think it's fair to explore what's going on

[Revis Volek]

Dee Eight, on 28 December 2016 - 03:59 PM, said:

No it isn't complicated even though you wish to make it that way. Never has (S) variants ever been available for purchase for MC via the IN game store. NEVER. How complicated is that for you to understand ?

There is no such thing as an (S) variant.....


This while issue come from OP not understanding what VARIANTS means.

[Dee Eight]

Revis Volek, on 28 December 2016 - 04:01 PM, said:

There is no such thing as an (S) variant.....


This while issue come from OP not understanding what VARIANTS means.

I fixed my statement to special (S) editions. Happy now ? My bad for confusing the troll. What's a "while issue" while we're arguing over language ?

Edited by Dee Eight, 28 December 2016 - 04:09 PM.

[Revis Volek]

Dee Eight, on 28 December 2016 - 04:08 PM, said:

I fixed my statement to special (S) editions. Happy now ? My bad for confusing the troll.

Lets not make this harder then it has to be Dee...

[Master Pain]

While I agree that the wording might be a little ambiguous, I just think that anyone that is able to do even a slight amount of critical thinking should be able to figure it out easily.

[Agent1190]

Remains Intact, on 28 December 2016 - 03:27 PM, said:

Unfortunately the sale doesn't say "all basic variants". It says "all variants" and all variants includes the S variants.

I don't think you understand what makes a "variant" in this game.

CN9-A is a variant of the CN9. Same with 4P, 4J, 4SP, 4G being variants of the Hunchback.

(S) does not denote a variant. It denotes a special trait. There is no ZEU-6T(S) in universe - it's simply a ZEU-6T. The (S) used in game means it gets an earnings boost because it was purchased in a package for real world cash, not in game currency. In this case, 30% C-Bill earnings boost. Same with (F), (H), (I), (L), (O) and ( R).

So when PGI says "variants," they are not referring to mechs with special traits, but the individual variant itself.

Edited by Agent1190, 28 December 2016 - 05:00 PM.

[kuma8877]

This is just someone trying to create a loophole through which to try and get free stuff. Steam packs by default are purchased ONLY for money, NOT in game credits, neither with MC or C-Bills. He's just trying to find a way to see how much leverage he can gain thru his applied lack of understanding. We ALL know that (S) (C) ® (I) and the various other designations are not noting a change in layout to a chassis that qualifies as a variant (different physical configuration), but rather a separate status indicator (Founder, Champ, Hero, etc) and the bonus that status implies or imparts on the owner.

(S) is not a variant, it's not available for MC, only for real money, whether on Steam or the MWO store. The business model itself indicates this and has been operating without any prior presumption of wrongdoing or deviousness on PGI's part.

A reasonable question from a new player who may not know the difference, but from someone who has a long standing account and clearly demonstrates understanding of the lingo used in MWO and the store system... well, my guess is your intentions aren't purely scientific.

[JudauAshta]

s variants give c-bill bonus and can't be sold
thats it

rest is same as any other mech of the same chassis

[Gaden Phoenix]

1st world problems... Actually not even a problem, thus:
1st world SELF created, hyped and entitled agenda (masquerading as a problem)

Edited by Gaden Phoenix, 28 December 2016 - 06:46 PM.

[Ratpoison]

People like OP are why nobody gives a damn about actual false advertisement anymore.

[Bandilly]

Remains Intact, on 28 December 2016 - 03:51 PM, said:

S variants are variants. Truth.

They are, but they are variants of variants. The sale says all variants are on sale, it doesn't say all variants of every variant is on sale, if they did they'd have to include not just the (S), but the (C), (O), (R ), (G), (I), and whatever other letters I'm missing like the (L)...and we all know that PGI doesn't sell Corgis.

Edited by Bandilly, 28 December 2016 - 07:10 PM.

[Deathlike]

Why does this thread exist?

Steam packs must be acquired from Steam and/or through its webstore.

Steam packs cannot be sold in the in-game Store or the webstore (on PGI's website).

If you aren't going to buy things through Steam, stop looking further.

Why must it be this complicated?

Edited by Deathlike, 28 December 2016 - 09:22 PM.

[Dee Eight]

Deathlike, on 28 December 2016 - 09:20 PM, said:

Why does this thread exist?

Because the barracks lawyering OP wants to acquire the steam bundle variants of variants for MC...

[Lucian Nostra]

Remains Intact, on 28 December 2016 - 03:06 PM, said:

From the Sale page: 40% off PERFORMANCE PARTNERS IN GAME
(all variants from Steam Bundles Panther, Mist Lynx, Crab, Shadow Cat, Grasshopper, Ebon Jaguar, Warhawk and Zeus! )
To find the Sale price see the in-game store sale Tab!

Upon inspection I am unable to see the packages on sale, only the vanilla individual chassis (this isn't against what they are advertising, just pointing out i checked the packages section). I am also unable to find the (S) variants that are part of the steam package for sale, If the (S) variants aren't on sale in the in game tab it's false advertisement.

Am I just missing them or are they lying?

so go get like $5,000-$8,000 or so and sue PGI over this very important thing

[NighthawK1337]

(S) is a suffix added the normal variants to distinguish them from the mechs bought normally, they can ONLY be obtained as a bonus by buying the mechpack with real $$$$. Just like (L) for loyalty, (I) Invasion, (G) Gold, (C) Champion, (O) Origins, ( R ) Resistance etc. They are NOT a special variant by themselves. I dunno how you read it but I read it as "All" variants already able to be sold. It's a "SALE" which means less cost for stuff that's already there. Is english your first language or just looking for a frivolous lawsuit? Either way take it up to support. Whining about it here will only get your arguments picked apart, not get you what you want and convinced yourself that you're supposed to get.

Remains Intact, on 28 December 2016 - 03:54 PM, said:

Sorry, was just looking for one honest post that said PGI either ****** up

NEWS FLASH, WATER IS WET!!!

Oh we're not talking about game balance.....

Edited by NighthawK1337, 28 December 2016 - 10:19 PM.

[Gaden Phoenix]

Oh by the way. PGI is in Canada. They dont really do frivolous like USA and they are really strict against people that bring up such suits without merit. So good luck.

Anyways in most countries the company will do this:
"Thanks you sir for pointing this out. We are sorry we are unclear. Thanks for your help. We have amended our statement to reflect our true meaning. Thanks and Regards".
That is the best you can get.

Most of the time you actually get:
"Dear Customer, please F off" But in nicer language.

Also concerning the start of such lawsuits, the MCDonald Coffee case, please see:

It was not a frivolous case, but thanks to marketing to mitigate bad press MC Donalds smeared the plaintive on News channels. Thus ensuring their reputation but also F-ing everyone else for all future law suits. As per usual, another big company distorting the facts.

Edited by Gaden Phoenix, 28 December 2016 - 10:53 PM.

[NighthawK1337]

Gaden Phoenix, on 28 December 2016 - 10:25 PM, said:

Oh by the way. PGI is in Canada. They dont really do frivolous like USA and they are really strict against people that bring up such suits without merit. So good luck. Anyways in most countries the company will do this: "Thanks you sir for pointing this out. We are sorry we are unclear. Thanks for your help. We have amended our statement to reflect our true meaning. Thanks and Regards". That is the best you can get. Most of the time you actually get: "Dear Customer, please F off" But in nicer language. Also concerning the start of such lawsuits, the MCDonald Coffee case, please see: It was not a frivolous case, but thanks to marketing to mitigate bad press MC Donalds smeared the plaintive on News channels. Thus ensuring their reputation but also F-ing everyone else for all future law suits. As per usual, another big company distorting the facts.

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