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[TLBFestus]

That's right people, HEAVY GEAR ASSAULT is now in early access on STEAM.


http://store.steampo...com/app/416020/


What do you think? Personally I played it "back in the day" and while a lot of the original developers had worked on the MechWarrior franchise prior to making that game, I just never saw it as a serious MECH contender.

I didn't like that the "Gears" could roller skate or that they carried over sized rifles. Maybe it was a bit to Gundam/Mecha/Anime trop-ish in comparison to Battletech, but whatever it was I didn't feel it stood on the same level as Mechwarrior.

Maybe it was the longer, deeper backstory that made the difference.

All that aside, I'm sure there will be a few here that try it. What do you think?

[Johnny Z]

If that's the best competition this game has, then good.

[Aiden Skye]

I remember playing heavy gear 2 alongside mechwarrior 4 back in the day. Was pretty fun but I've always preferred mechwarrior. Those gears look kinda goofy in those screenshots though.

[Alistair Winter]

Lmao!

I hope that a lot of people move from MWO to Heavy Gear Assault. Then we will hopefully lose the people who want MWO to be Quake with robots, and they can go play a game that is actually Quake with robots.

When PGI released the Domination game mode, I facepalmed so hard. I thought "Wow, a gamemode that forces everyone to fight around the same tiny area of the map every time? It's basically designed to eliminate as much thinking as possible and just force everyone to kill, die and disconnect as quickly as possible. Who the hell would want to play this?"

As it turns out, the majority of MWO players want to play it. The whole 'thinking man's shooter' crowd packed up and left, and the majority of the people who remain prefer to play Domination because they don't want MWO to be a "walking simulator". I.e. a game where you actually have to spend 2 minutes maneuvering before you get to shoot someone.

So yeah. I hope HGA is super successful, actually. I wouldn't mind losing a few of the people who feel like any match on Polar Highlands is a disaster unless the fighting starts inside of 30 seconds.

No offense. Different strokes for different folks and all that.

[Bud Crue]

W A R K H A N, on 29 December 2016 - 10:47 PM, said:

I remember playing heavy gear 2 alongside mechwarrior 4 back in the day. Was pretty fun but I've always preferred mechwarrior. Those gears look kinda goofy in those screenshots though.

Yeah, same here, but I always thought the whole roller skating mech thing felt and looked weird. I know it is stupid, but that alone is what kept me from really getting into that title.

[Kasumi Sumika]

I never play or see Heavy Gear franchise. The mech design is not cup of my tea, although it looks like Armored Trooper VOTOMS.

But if MW:O have competition in Mech Sims genre, hopefully this would make PGI starting to get serious to keep making MW:O fresh and interesting.

[meteorol]

Watched some youtube footage. God that looks terrible.

Like... a somewhat slower and a lot worse Tribes Ascend.

[AnTi90d]

I have the Beta key.. I used the Beta key in my Steam program.. The Steam program shows that I own HGA.. I am running Windows.. HGA is made for Windows..

..but, when I click to install it, I get a popup error that says, "Heavy Gear Assault is not available on your current platform."

I have less confidence and faith in Mektek than I do PGI. HGA failed its kickstarter. HGA failed its launch, which was supposed to happen a few weeks ago.. and now HGA fails at its launch, a second time.

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

Meh, really just a competitor to Hawken. Most of the playerbase here thinks this game is too fast and want it slowed down. That's just UT with rollerskating mecha.

Alistair Winter, on 29 December 2016 - 10:51 PM, said:

I hope that a lot of people move from MWO to Heavy Gear Assault. Then we will hopefully lose the people who want MWO to be Quake with robots, and they can go play a game that is actually Quake with robots.

Hawken.

Now that Hawken is actually enjoyable again, I think the game exchanged dev teams. It was stagnant for while.

[MechaBattler]

Pass. Looks more like a wonky shooter than a mech game.

[Peter2k]

TLBFestus, on 29 December 2016 - 10:35 PM, said:

That's right people, HEAVY GEAR ASSAULT is now in early access on STEAM.
What do you think?

I remember Heavy Gear
but how is it competition?

this right there:

Alistair Winter, on 29 December 2016 - 10:51 PM, said:

Then we will hopefully lose the people who want MWO to be Quake with robots, and they can go play a game that is actually Quake with robots.

Isn't mechwarrior supposed to be slow and hulking?
if I wanted fast moving mech action I`d gone somewhere else anyway

[RestosIII]

You really think that game will give PGI any real competition? Most of the money being funneled to PGI is already just from whales with nostalgic love for mechs. That game won't take it from them. Most it will do is maybe mess with their E-Sports crowd and population of F2P players that were late to the game for Hawken.

[Alistair Winter]

Peter2k, on 29 December 2016 - 11:23 PM, said:

Isn't mechwarrior supposed to be slow and hulking?
if I wanted fast moving mech action I`d gone somewhere else anyway

Yeah, but few people are actually comfortable playing a slow and hulking mech. They'd rather see a Locust with +500% acceleration and turn rate and then let the XL400 Kodiak and XL375 Timber Wolf be as nimble as cats. "Nerf mobility of heavies and assaults? Good heavens, no!"

In MWO, bigger has almost always been better.

[El Bandito]

Installing Heavy Gear right now, got a Beta Steam key.

After testing it, I'm gonna blow my money on either HGA or Overwatch. Both 30-ish bucks anyway, and both will give more content than mere mech pack.

Peter2k, on 29 December 2016 - 11:23 PM, said:

Isn't mechwarrior supposed to be slow and hulking?
if I wanted fast moving mech action I`d gone somewhere else anyway

Current mechs are not slow and hulking enough IMO. I blame XL engine being too useful compared to Std one. Watching 30 ton hunk of metal moving around like the Scout from TF2, simply makes me shake my head.

Edited by El Bandito, 30 December 2016 - 12:08 AM.

[Beaching Betty]

Was stoked at firts but then looking at the price.. Umm NO THANKS + It's an EARLY ACCESS

[Appogee]

I played it through, back in the day.

I remember it had the world's worst weapon sound effects. A Gauss rifle hit sounded like a marble dropping into a teapot.

I was never completely comfortable with roller-skating robots. Too anime for my liking.

Edited by Appogee, 30 December 2016 - 01:09 AM.

[RestosIII]

Appogee, on 30 December 2016 - 01:09 AM, said:

I played it through, back in the day.

I remember it had the world's worst weapon sound effects. A Gauss rifle hit sounded like a marble dropping into a teapot.

I was never completely comfortable with roller-skating robots. Too anime for my liking.

I'm an anime addict, and I don't care for this Heavy Gear. Mech motions look... Odd, and I don't like them. Plus, none of them look like they'd feel like they have any weight.

[Y E O N N E]

This new game looks floaty, but the mechs were very weighty in Heavy Gear 2.

Appogee, on 30 December 2016 - 01:09 AM, said:

I played it through, back in the day.

I remember it had the world's worst weapon sound effects. A Gauss rifle hit sounded like a marble dropping into a teapot.

Heavy Gear 1 or 2? Never played 1, but 2 was fine for the most part. The graphics were better than the contemporary MW3, too, with the exception of laser beams...which wer flat transparent sprites. Yuck.

[Ratpoison]

Ew. Those mech designs are goofy and ugly. No sense of design practicality and parts look slapped on from different sources. The rollerskating just looks like a stupid joke, it shows no sense of physics or weight, they look absurd turning at high speed like that. Gameplay seems like early access Hawken in an ugly cartoon style. This is already a niche market where aesthetics are demanded to be of high quality, as you can see by how well Alex's mech designs have been received over the years and how much money they have made. Now try to sell someone these designs over the ones Alex produced. Nobody is gonna be drooling to pilot these ugly piles of crap. I don't have much faith on this getting out of early access.

Mech skating is definitely a Japanese mech thing, lots of their mech IPs give the mechs jet boosters or some such in order to make more faster paced, action heavy scenes. Most of the time it's more silly than anything. I still feel like Front Mission was one of the only IPs to treat the idea right.



Sadly though, SquareEnix has had no clue what to do with Front Mission for over a decade.

Edited by Ratpoison, 30 December 2016 - 02:35 AM.

[Kasumi Sumika]

I think the game company that would make MW:O into serious competition in mech sims genre is...


FROM SOFTWARE



They can make high-speed mech action...




...or go into slower gameplay and go more tactical route.




* srlsy, pls remastered or just rerelease on multiplatform these awesome games especially on PC, I would throw money at From Software