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[AnTi90d]

I totally want a Devastator. That thing looks like an ultra-Warhammer.

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The Pillager is just way too ugly for me to want it.

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The Thunderhawk looks a bit less derpy.. but only a bit. IDK about it.. It's definitely not as cool looking as a Devastator.

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The Gunslinger looks.. weird.. but, I like it. It's like what would happen if a Banshee had a kid with an Arctic Cheetah. I'd buy it.

[Gas Guzzler]

AnTi90d, on 03 January 2017 - 03:47 PM, said:

I totally want a Devastator. That thing looks like an ultra-Warhammer.

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The Pillager is just way too ugly for me to want it.

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The Thunderhawk looks a bit less derpy.. but only a bit. IDK about it.. It's definitely not as cool looking as a Devastator.

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The Gunslinger looks.. weird.. but, I like it. It's like what would happen if a Banshee had a kid with an Arctic Cheetah. I'd buy it.

That's funny because the Devastator doesn't look that good to me. I do like the Thunder Hawk and the Gunslinger though.

It's funny, up until a couple weeks ago I had a completely different picture of the Thunder Hawk in my mind... I like what it actually looks like a lot more.

[Valhallan]

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Berserker
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Lord of IS Assaults

[FLG 01]

A little something on the Gunslinger:

"As the Mech Warriors of the Defiance Self-Protection Force scattered toward their BattleMechs, Goree headed for his GUN-1 ERD Gunslinger. The 'Mech was the product of a joint Davion/Kurita design team. Intended to cripple Clan 'Mechs at the stand-off ranges the genetically engineered Clan warriors seemed to favor, the Gunslinger mounted a pair of gauss rifles, one in each forearm. A half-dozen medium lasers, two of them pulse models, completed the assault armament.

Goree was as familiar with the 'Mech and its capabilities as he had been with his ex-wife, but unlike her, the big machine had never let him down."

(Th. Gressman, The Dying Time)

[TheArisen]

The Gunslinger is cool but it comes with a 255xl. If you put a 300 in it it won't have much room left.

Gas Guzzler, on 03 January 2017 - 03:33 PM, said:

Dual gauss humanoid assaults...

Yeah saw that after I posted. I think the Nightstar has an advantage of not needing to expose so much mech when compared to the humanoids.

[Bombast]

Valhallan, on 03 January 2017 - 03:54 PM, said:

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Berserker
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Lord of IS Assaults

[Valhallan]

Bombast, on 03 January 2017 - 04:18 PM, said:

Wish we had some!

[TheArisen]

Bombast, on 03 January 2017 - 04:18 PM, said:

Don't you get it? The Berserker kills with class!

[Alex Morgaine]

TheArisen, on 03 January 2017 - 04:12 PM, said:

...The Gunslinger is cool but it comes with a 255xl. If you put a 300 in it it won't have much room left...

11 slots free. Ecm stock. 1e in each leg can move to torso stock no prob. Drop bap, jjx1. Add endo. Has 5 tons ammo stock, and 7 E HP plus dual arm guass. 300xl and some tonnage for minor tweaks easy, maybe up sl to a med for 5-7 med, 2 engine DHS. Aside from building a laser vomit or trying to shoehorn a ppc or lightening the ballistics, not much else. But then, not much more needed if you want gaussx2. Just need the arms high enough to matter.

[AnTi90d]

I don't think that many would run a Gunslinger for dual goose.

Look at where four of those energy mounts are: above the cockpit in the STs.

That and the new skill tree that would allow any mech to have PPC velocity, I think it would end up more of an XL PPC sniper.

[TheArisen]

Alex Morgaine, on 03 January 2017 - 05:34 PM, said:

11 slots free. Ecm stock. 1e in each leg can move to torso stock no prob. Drop bap, jjx1. Add endo. Has 5 tons ammo stock, and 7 E HP plus dual arm guass. 300xl and some tonnage for minor tweaks easy, maybe up sl to a med for 5-7 med, 2 engine DHS. Aside from building a laser vomit or trying to shoehorn a ppc or lightening the ballistics, not much else. But then, not much more needed if you want gaussx2. Just need the arms high enough to matter.

The thing is with an xl300 you can't really do dual gauss which makes you very slow if you try. We're talking about being slower than a Stalker. JJ wouldn't be practical either.

The Gunslinger would be used for it's high mounted energy with the arms as shields.

[Karl Streiger]

Well the best placement for Gauss is the arm.... the Pillager is and Thunderhawk are suicide. machines.
Although i did run long ago Gauss in the Atlas - but I think it changed shortly after the exploding damage. Even with STD the additional blow of 20dmg to your ST isn't something you want to deal with.

Well arms and Gauss - of course the Night Star... but again only humanoids... so it is decided between Cerberus or Gunslinger.

Edited by Karl Streiger, 04 January 2017 - 01:54 AM.

[El Bandito]

TheArisen, on 03 January 2017 - 04:12 PM, said:

The Gunslinger is cool but it comes with a 255xl. If you put a 300 in it it won't have much room left.

With 300XL, dual Gauss, and Endo, the Gunslinger will still have 20 tons of free weight.

[Karl Streiger]

El Bandito, on 04 January 2017 - 01:54 AM, said:

With 300XL, dual Gauss, and Endo, the Gunslinger will still have 20 tons of free weight.

Nobody would run those assaults with XL. Cerberus, Gunslinger, Devastator and Pillager can use a STD when sacrificing secondary armament and heatsinks - but keep the Dual Gauss (plus PPC for Devas
Even the Thunderhawk can run with 3 Gauss rifles and STD.

Although 54kph is to slow in the MWO world we live in, now with the massacred range of the Gauss speed is a concern of Gauss Platforms

Edited by Karl Streiger, 04 January 2017 - 01:58 AM.

[El Bandito]

Karl Streiger, on 04 January 2017 - 01:58 AM, said:

Nobody would run those assaults with XL. Cerberus, Gunslinger, Devastator and Pillager can use a STD when sacrificing secondary armament and heatsinks - but keep the Dual Gauss (plus PPC for Devas
Even the Thunderhawk can run with 3 Gauss rifles and STD.

Although 54kph is to slow in the MWO world we live in, now with the massacred range of the Gauss speed is a concern of Gauss Platforms

People certainly can run the Gunslinger with XL. It's Gauss are on the arms, thus will have much lower risk of Gauss explosion death. According the PGI's rule, a 255 engined 85 ton mech will get a max rating of 310 in game, so that's 63.5 kph for the Gunslinger with 310 XL. Not terribly slow. ECM on the base model will also help its survival.

Plus, like all other IS mechs, Gunslinger will receive quirk crutches, and those maybe will include durability, agility, ballistic range etc...

Edited by El Bandito, 04 January 2017 - 02:40 AM.

[TheArisen]

El Bandito, on 04 January 2017 - 01:54 AM, said:

With 300XL, dual Gauss, and Endo, the Gunslinger will still have 20 tons of free weight.

Fair enough, perhaps I'm being too hard on the Gsling but add in a reasonable amount of ammo for dual gauss, let's say 7 tons. Take off 1t for ecm and at least another for jj that leaves you with 11 tons. Dual gauss + 1 ppc, ecm & hopjet. You could do 2 or 3 jj and a dhs to fill it out. You're still fairly slow and vulnerable to fast pushes or NASCAR

[El Bandito]

TheArisen, on 04 January 2017 - 02:38 AM, said:

Fair enough, perhaps I'm being too hard on the Gsling but add in a reasonable amount of ammo for dual gauss, let's say 7 tons. Take off 1t for ecm and at least another for jj that leaves you with 11 tons. Dual gauss + 1 ppc, ecm & hopjet. You could do 2 or 3 jj and a dhs to fill it out. You're still fairly slow and vulnerable to fast pushes or NASCAR

Dual Gauss + ERPPC + ECM + 1-2 JJ + DHSs doesn't sound bad at all. IS XL aside, the build is basically that of a NGyr. Of course, the real NGyr would perform better than the Gunslinger, even while weighing 10 tons less, cause of superior Clan tech.

The PPC can be swapped with 2 ERLLs, and JJs are not absolutely necessary. Gunslinger has very high laser mounts on the STs.

I personally had some success with 2xGauss + 3xERLL Mauler-2P. Did fine on the survival department as long as I was careful. And that mech moves even slower than Gunslinger, and has no ECM.

Edited by El Bandito, 04 January 2017 - 02:48 AM.

[Snazzy Dragon]

Bombast, on 03 January 2017 - 03:38 PM, said:

It's pretty hard to do ballistics in a King Crab, when everyone knows how succulent and delicious your claw meat is.

I consider it a good match when people shoot off my king crab's arms first-- usually they just drill into the right torso where the energy hardpoints are and neuter 70%+ of the firepower on it. And torso twisting won't stop it. The crab is too fat and wide, and its juicy side torsos too big.

Edited by Snazzy Dragon, 04 January 2017 - 02:50 AM.

[MW Waldorf Statler]

all this Mechs have not the PGI Gauss Mechanic

[TheArisen]

El Bandito, on 04 January 2017 - 02:45 AM, said:

Dual Gauss + ERPPC + ECM + 1-2 JJ + DHSs doesn't sound bad at all. IS XL aside, the build is basically that of a NGyr. Of course, the real NGyr would perform better than the Gunslinger, even while weighing 10 tons less, cause of superior Clan tech.

The PPC can be swapped with 2 ERLLs, and JJs are not absolutely necessary. Gunslinger has very high laser mounts on the STs.

I personally had some success with 2xGauss + 3xERLL Mauler-2P. Did fine on the survival department as long as I was careful. And that mech moves even slower than Gunslinger, and has no ECM.

Well max engine Mauler is still about the same speed but the Gsling would be decent. I actually run my Mauler 1P with dual gauss & dual ppc to great effect.