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[Ridingwolf1]

Mech Commander Tournament

Tournament Setup:

• Match Brackets: Up to 16 teams vs 16 teams - Total maximum of 32 Teams
  
• Tournament Duration: 3 Weekend days (Thur & Fri, Fri) over 2 consecutive weekends.
  
• Tournament Dates: Thursday January 26 and 27, 2017 and February 3, 2017
  
• Roster: 5 - 4 people + 1 Drop commander.
  
  • Each team will have a drop caller that does not count towards their weight or chassis limit, and may spectate his/her team to give additional information. Further details under “Rules Expanded.”
• Chassis: All mechs that are NOT purchasable using only MC or a loyalty variants, this includes omnipods,
  
  • No chassis may be used more than once per drop (up to 3 total rounds per match). Further details under “Win Condition.”
• Tonnage: By weight class, per match. Further details under “Win Condition.”
  
• Tech: All
  
• Weaponry: Limited (further details below)
  
• Win Condition: Best of 3 single elimination drops. Ties will be decided based on total living mechs’ percentage totals.

• 1st Drop - Sniping - Domination (10:00 min)
  
  • 2 Lights, 2 Mediums; no duplicate chassis.
    
  • Weaponry Allowed: ERL, LPL, (ER)PPC, Gauss, (U)AC2/5 .
• 2nd Drop - Brawl - Domination (10:00 min)
  
  • 2 Heavy, 2 Assault; no duplicate chassis, or chassis used in Drop 1.
    
  • Weaponry Allowed: All Except: ERL, LPL, (ER)PPC, Gauss.
• 3rd match - The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly - Skirmish (10:00 match)
  
  • 1/1/1/1; No chassis used in Drop 1 or 2

Weaponry Allowed: All

Maps: 5 Rounds 1 & 2; 3 Last round

• Forest Colony
  
• Grim Plexus
  
• Frozen City
  
• Caustic Valley
  
• HPG Manifold

• Each team may ban 1 of these maps each round with the map being chosen by a third party from the remaining 3 at random. Once a map has be played on, it cannot be used again. This means in round two, there will be 4 maps in the pool with each team banning 1 for a random pool of 2. Teams can’t ban the same map twice.

• River City
  
• Mining Collective
  
• Polar Highlands
  
• The third match will be chosen at random from the above pool of 3 by a third party with no team receiving the ability to ban any map.

Rules Expanded:

Drop Caller:
Each team will have a drop caller, that does not count towards their weight or chassis limit, who may spectate his/her team to give additional information. At the beginning of the match they must immediately go out of bounds and suicide. This will allow them to spectate in his/her team to drop call / relay additional information.

• The drop caller must be the same person for each drop and listed as the drop caller on the team’s sign up
  
• Drop Commanders must drop in a fast moving light mech
  
• All teams will hold their positions until both team’s drop caller mechs are destroyed
  
• After both team’s drop caller mechs are destroyed, both teams will begin combat after an mutually understood countdown (3,2,1,GO!)
  
• At no time can a drop commander scout the enemy team prior to a match
  
• Spectator travel between all 4 team mechs is allowed
  
• We can't use spectate slots for drop callers because there are only 2 spectate slots in the lobby. There would be no way to broadcast the matches nor for a match official to be present if this was the way

This is being done to better simulate a military style encounter with a commander that will have oversight to call positions without being in the combat. Hold until drop caller is dead.

Rule Infractions:
In the event that you feel a rule has been broken by the enemy team you may place a Petition based on evidence in the form of screenshots, recordings, and/or streams to be adjudicated by a Tournament Admin.

Each team gets 1 and only 1 petition. However, if a team’s Petition is granted, their 1 Petition will be refunded as recognition and thanks by our staff.

In the event that a Tournament Admin find the Petition to be valid, they hold the right to punish the violators by, but not limited to, a repeat of the match, drop forfeiture, or even ejection from the tournament, based on the perceived severity of infraction.

Note by the Staff:
This is a game of big stompy robots shooting big stompy robots. Violating the spirit of the competition by hiding from fighting, for an extended period of time, is reasonable grounds for a petition by the opposing team for a win via the result of a forfeiture by the violating team. This is to be judged on a case-by-case basis. The ruling of the judge is FINAL.
Additional Rules Everyone Will Innately Follow But We Will Add It Anyway To Cover Our Butts:

Admins:
You will follow the instructions of authorized personnel while participating in this Tournament. Authorized Personnel may include (but not limited to): Tournament Admins, Judges, and Streamers.

Cheating:
Any pilot or unit caught cheating will be immediately and permanently banned from all current and future tournaments.
The following are some but not limited to, examples of cheating:

• Modification of map files
  
• Custom files/modifications that remove objects or landscape elements
  
• Playing on another or multiple accounts
  
• Use of aimbots or any automatic or programmatic aiming or targeting aids
  
• Use of map hacks
  
• Use of sensor or targeting hacks

State of the Game:
Certain patches, hotfixes, or introductions of new material may put the tournament in an unplayable state. The staff will determine when and if this happens, as well as the appropriate course of action. In the case of any of these decisions, all teams will be notified. Any concerns about the state of the game should be brought to the attention of an official.

Cheating Accusations:
Should you feel that someone is cheating, you MUST have proof. At that point you will contact a Tournament Admin with said proof and they will make a decision based on the nature of the proof, as to what action will be taken.

Cursing & Offensive Remarks:
You may not use any offensive, sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, hateful, racial, ethnic or otherwise objectionable remarks. We do understand that these words are common use for many players. We are not telling you to never use these words or that this is an outright bannable offence, just to tone it back and be respectful when it comes to your fellow players and community.

Attitudes and Egos:
These will not be tolerated. Each of us is here to have fun. People with massive egos, chips on their shoulders, or just bad attitudes are a waste of the Admins’ time as well as that of other units. If you are not here to have fun, and allow others to do the same, you are in the wrong place, and need to move on.

Players that violate the any of the Additional Rules may be subject to temporary suspension or permanent banning as determined by the Tournament Admins.

GOOD LUCK AND HAVE FUN

Edited by Ridingwolf1, 09 January 2017 - 03:15 PM.

[Ridingwolf1]

Reserved for any issues to be addressed

Sign up here as a 4 man team with a Mech Commander!

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[El Switchblade]

54MR
DC: El Switchblade
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(I will add pilot names once I confirm commitment with the team)

[SuperAtomicAirplane]

It was suggested on reddit but I'll put it here as well. Having the drop caller suicide so he can only spectate his own team's 'Mechs is redundant. If the four team members can talk to each other they don't need the drop caller backseat driving.

Instead, put the drop callers in the spectator slots! That's something that's never been done before! The drop callers will be able to see everything and will have to actually "command" their team. It adds a whole new level to the game AND fits with the theme of a RTS like MechCommander. Team coordination and fast reactions to opponents' strategies will be even more important in a situation where each team knows what the other is doing. Think about it.

[Jman5]

Yes, put the commanders in the spectator slots and you'll really capture that RTS-style you're looking for.

[Ridingwolf1]

SuperAtomicAirplane, on 09 January 2017 - 12:56 PM, said:

It was suggested on reddit but I'll put it here as well. Having the drop caller suicide so he can only spectate his own team's 'Mechs is redundant. If the four team members can talk to each other they don't need the drop caller backseat driving.

Instead, put the drop callers in the spectator slots! That's something that's never been done before! The drop callers will be able to see everything and will have to actually "command" their team. It adds a whole new level to the game AND fits with the theme of a RTS like MechCommander. Team coordination and fast reactions to opponents' strategies will be even more important in a situation where each team knows what the other is doing. Think about it.

You can't do it this way. There has to be a broadcaster in the spectate slot to stream it. As there are only two spectate slots, this can't be done.

If it makes you feel better, this was the original concept, along with trying to figure out how to get their comms into the stream so people could hear the orders being given. Neither issue, broadcasters in the matches nor comms, could be solved in such a way to make it easy on the volunteers, so it was thrown out. But we agreed with you, it would be better that way.

Edited by Ridingwolf1, 09 January 2017 - 03:42 PM.

[Scurro]

Ridingwolf1, on 09 January 2017 - 03:11 PM, said:

You can't do it this way. There has to be a broadcaster in the spectate slot to stream it. As there are only two spectate slots, this can't be done.

If it makes you feel better, this was the original concept, along with trying to figure out how to get their comms into the stream so people could hear the orders being given. Neither issue, broadcasters in the matches nor comms, could be solved in such a way to make it easy on the volunteers, so it was thrown out. But we agreed with you, it would be better that way.

Why not have the broadcasters be the ones that suicide spectate? You would have one on each team so they could show movement.

[Ridingwolf1]

Scurro, on 09 January 2017 - 04:06 PM, said:

Why not have the broadcasters be the ones that suicide spectate? You would have one on each team so they could show movement.

This is also impossible. It means getting new streams for every match, just to start with. Then, what if a drop caller does not wish to stream?

[Scurro]

Ridingwolf1, on 09 January 2017 - 04:30 PM, said:

This is also impossible. It means getting new streams for every match, just to start with. Then, what if a drop caller does not wish to stream?

You arent following what I said. Only the broadcasters would stream, they would only be able to show the team they are on however.

[Jman5]

You don't have to have a caster for every game, but you could always get a drop commander to stream on a delay. Then the caster just pops his stream up and casts from his perspective. If both drop commanders are streaming he could switch between the two.

This concept works so much better by giving the drop commander a birds-eye-view.

Edited by Jman5, 09 January 2017 - 05:36 PM.

[Ridingwolf1]

Scurro, on 09 January 2017 - 05:14 PM, said:

You arent following what I said. Only the broadcasters would stream, they would only be able to show the team they are on however.

This is becoming redundant now. I will instead provide an itemized list of the reasons why what you are stating is impossible.

1. Not all of the drop callers will want to also cast the match. People will not want to watch matches without casting. Thus, a caster must be in the match meaning the 2 spectator slots can't be used for the drop callers.

2. What you are saying will require a new streamer for each match as you are now asking a drop caller to stream, call for his team, and cast to the audience. Not happening. Even if this was something that could be done, the audiences will not want to change streamers every match. And yes, you have to change streamers every match, no streamer will give out his stream ID to people they don't know for them to have access to everything.

3. You are completely avoiding the subject of rule enforcement where someone may or may not be present to make sure rules are followed and be present for adjudications when needed. This will require a spectate slot.

4. The only other possible scenario where what you are asking for could work is the same two streamers do all the drop calling for all the teams and cast for their viewers, entertain their viewers, and handle all the administration for their drops.

Jman5, on 09 January 2017 - 05:14 PM, said:

You don't have to have a caster for every game, but you could always get a drop commander to stream on a delay. Then the caster just pops his stream up and casts from his perspective. If both drop commanders are streaming he could switch between the two.

This concept works so much better by giving the drop commander a birds-eye-view.

See above.

This is impossible. We can't have the drop callers in the spectate spots in the lobby. This is impossible for multiple reasons and it is not happening even if it was possible. If you wish to have drop callers in the spectate spots, then make your own tournament and do so, in fact this may be the only way you see why it can't be done. Thank you for trying gentlemen, this was thought of by a lot of people before you guys and it can't be done.

Edited by Ridingwolf1, 09 January 2017 - 10:04 PM.

[Jman5]

Well it's your tournament after all. Best of luck.

[Scurro]

Ridingwolf1, on 09 January 2017 - 10:02 PM, said:

This is becoming redundant now. I will instead provide an itemized list of the reasons why what you are stating is impossible.

1. Not all of the drop callers will want to also cast the match. People will not want to watch matches without casting. Thus, a caster must be in the match meaning the 2 spectator slots can't be used for the drop callers.

2. What you are saying will require a new streamer for each match as you are now asking a drop caller to stream, call for his team, and cast to the audience. Not happening. Even if this was something that could be done, the audiences will not want to change streamers every match. And yes, you have to change streamers every match, no streamer will give out his stream ID to people they don't know for them to have access to everything.

3. You are completely avoiding the subject of rule enforcement where someone may or may not be present to make sure rules are followed and be present for adjudications when needed. This will require a spectate slot.

4. The only other possible scenario where what you are asking for could work is the same two streamers do all the drop calling for all the teams and cast for their viewers, entertain their viewers, and handle all the administration for their drops.



See above.

This is impossible. We can't have the drop callers in the spectate spots in the lobby. This is impossible for multiple reasons and it is not happening even if it was possible. If you wish to have drop callers in the spectate spots, then make your own tournament and do so, in fact this may be the only way you see why it can't be done. Thank you for trying gentlemen, this was thought of by a lot of people before you guys and it can't be done.

You aren't following what I am saying. DCs wont be casting. The casters would join in the team slots and suicide to spectate.

[Ridingwolf1]

Scurro, on 10 January 2017 - 06:21 AM, said:

You aren't following what I am saying. DCs wont be casting. The casters would join in the team slots and suicide to spectate.

I do have it. You don't. No one wants to watch streams of spectating with no possibility for the broadcasters to do any sort of commentary. This is what your idea is, watching spectating. No streamer will broadcast hours of spectating and no one will watch hours of spectating.

Not only that, but that leaves no room for judges to be present.

Edited by Ridingwolf1, 12 January 2017 - 07:46 PM.

[Scurro]

Ridingwolf1, on 12 January 2017 - 07:38 PM, said:

I do have it. You don't. No one wants to watch streams of spectating with no possibility for the broadcasters to do any sort of commentary. This is what your idea is, watching spectating. No streamer will broadcast hours of spectating and no one will watch hours of spectating.

Not only that, but that leaves no room for judges to be present.

This isn't rocket science. You would have casters/commentators on each team watching from the death spectator view. Each would be talking to the stream what it looks like each team is doing and commentating their actions.

It is your tournament. You can do whatever you want, but it seems that not many are interested as you have it set now.

[Ridingwolf1]

Scurro, on 13 January 2017 - 10:32 AM, said:

This isn't rocket science. You would have casters/commentators on each team watching from the death spectator view. Each would be talking to the stream what it looks like each team is doing and commentating their actions.

It is your tournament. You can do whatever you want, but it seems that not many are interested as you have it set now.

You are right. This is not rocket science.

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Is any of this getting through yet? Even a tiny bit?

[Ridingwolf1]

Oh and to your attempt to insult, it's only you two that can't understand this simple concept and have issues. There Are few entries because of the EmP tournament that starts right after mine, which is understandable. Most want to prepare for that and are only dedicating the time to it. There is interest in the target audience, which is the same people competing in that tournament. Good try though.

[Ridingwolf1]

This tournament is postponed until after previously announced competitions are over. I didn't get this one in when I wanted to. My fault. People want time to practice and there is a lot of EmP and MRBC prep going on.