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#1 xPAKFAx

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 07:48 AM

I keep selecting them just because I love my Catapult dual Gauss, but no one wants to play there :(

No seriously, what's the purpose of those 2 maps in QP pubs if no one wants to play them?

#2 Bombast

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 07:50 AM

Welcome to why map and mode voting is evil and should be abolished.

I'm with you on Terra Therma, though. I always vote for it when it's up, even if I'm in a furnace mech.

#3 Snazzy Dragon

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 07:58 AM

Caustic is just NASCAR heaven.

Terra, however, has been reworked into one of the most intricate and interesting maps this game has. There are so many different paths and ridges-- mediums and lights have plenty of avenues to flank from and disappear into.

There are actually zones on the maps that are a bit colder than the rest and so forcing your enemy to hold up in a hotter zone is a legitimate strategy.

#4 Hit the Deck

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 07:58 AM

Maybe there aren't enough (new) Night Gyr pilots.

Edited by Hit the Deck, 10 January 2017 - 07:59 AM.


#5 xPAKFAx

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 08:06 AM

Since I'm new I don't know, so I'm asking was it ever random map selection? It should be...

edit: I just got TT now, I died horribly, I have no idea how to play it. :)

Edited by xPAKFAx, 10 January 2017 - 08:12 AM.


#6 Bombast

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 08:28 AM

View PostxPAKFAx, on 10 January 2017 - 08:06 AM, said:

Since I'm new I don't know, so I'm asking was it ever random map selection? It should be...

edit: I just got TT now, I died horribly, I have no idea how to play it. Posted Image


Ages ago, yes. Hasn't been for a while now.

Sadly, map and mode selection appears to be an unchangable game fact at this point, which means most matches are Skirmish (Or whatever mode most easily duplicates skirmish on a particular map) and on HPG, Mining Collective, and Canyon, and when none of those are possible, usually whichever map is coolest. And since Terra and Caustic are among the hottest maps, well... sucks for them.

EDIT: As a new player, try not to be too discouraged by that. Vote mulitpliers mean the other maps will pop eventually, just not often.

Though you'll probably have to play a lot of matches to get into Terra Therma. Caustic, not so much, as while it's hot, it's also visually boring and and has a natural race track, which means it's not too unpopular itself.

Edited by Bombast, 10 January 2017 - 08:32 AM.


#7 Lostdragon

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 08:28 AM

View PostxPAKFAx, on 10 January 2017 - 08:06 AM, said:

Since I'm new I don't know, so I'm asking was it ever random map selection? It should be...

edit: I just got TT now, I died horribly, I have no idea how to play it. :)


A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away we had 8v8, mode selection, and random maps. Those halcyon days of yore will likely never be seen again.

Edited by Lostdragon, 10 January 2017 - 08:29 AM.


#8 Barkem Squirrel

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 08:35 AM

I can remember when they had the voting, but if they could get a better match faster it would even if it was not fully what you selected. Then having 12 man groups just drop the match due to it being conquest sucked.

Still I kinda miss the days of pure random maps and game modes. Just for the nice laser vomit builds. Three or four games on Terra therma in a row would normally result in a change to a catapharact build and then Alpine peaks would come up.

#9 process

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 08:35 AM

I am shocked and appalled that hot maps with poor visibility are not selected more often.

#10 Snazzy Dragon

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 08:46 AM

View Postprocess, on 10 January 2017 - 08:35 AM, said:

I am shocked and appalled that hot maps with poor visibility are not selected more often.


*disables cockpit glass feature and complains about the new fog on viridian bog in the map feedback section*

#11 Widowmaker1981

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 08:51 AM

Caustic is the worst map in the game, by a long way, due to its tendancy to incite nascar coupled with its absurdly poor visibility. The heat isnt a problem really, it affects everyone.. i just like to be able to actually see what im shooting at.

Terra therma on the other hand is a good map, since it basically prevents nascar. its pretty, and engagements frequently happen at enough range that thermal sniper vision is useful.

#12 Mole

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 09:06 AM

This community. The reason we have map voting now is because people hymned and hawed over being forced to take random maps. Now everybody's crying how map voting is evil and we need to have random maps. You guys are literally unpleasable.

#13 MechaBattler

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 09:30 AM

Yeah... I try to build up my multiplayer to force people into Terra Therma or Viridian Bog.

My only problem with the map voting is that it's always the same set of maps that get voted. If Canyon is available, they choose that. If not than it's frozen city or the other cold map. Followed by Tourmaline and Crimson. Bog, Terra Therma, and Caustic are the redheaded step children.

Wish they would implement a code for how they cycle through maps based on how often it's been played. So that more maps get represented.

#14 Mystere

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 10:22 AM

I've said it before and I will say it again:

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#15 Xmith

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 11:00 AM

Back in the day, map selection seem to be random. If I'm not mistaken, the mm tried to have you drop on all maps an even number of times. The 2 map versions like the Forrest Colonies were treated as one map.



#16 WarHippy

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 11:19 AM

View PostMole, on 10 January 2017 - 09:06 AM, said:

This community. The reason we have map voting now is because people hymned and hawed over being forced to take random maps. Now everybody's crying how map voting is evil and we need to have random maps. You guys are literally unpleasable.

That really isn't an accurate assessment of the situation at all. Some people wanted to be able to select their mech after they knew what map they would be on, some people wanted voting, some people wanted all random, and some people wanted hard choices for game modes. PGI in an attempt to give some people what they wanted added soft voting and then removed it a few days later after massive backlash from a lot of people that didn't want to be forced to play certain game modes. Some people then started complaining about wait times which really didn't seem to be a problem for others so PGI said screw it and added voting for game modes and voting for maps as a frustrating bonus/compromise. Ever since a lot of people have been bitching about one aspect or another of voting and the nonsense still remains.

#17 Murphy7

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 11:21 AM

I am part of the problem, but only partly.

I vote for Terra Therma routinely - I liked the old map, and find the new version very fun and interesting.

I vote against Viridian Bog routinely - I find it both visibly unappealing and generally boring to play.

#18 Mystere

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 11:37 AM

View PostMole, on 10 January 2017 - 09:06 AM, said:

This community. The reason we have map voting now is because people hymned and hawed over being forced to take random maps. Now everybody's crying how map voting is evil and we need to have random maps. You guys are literally unpleasable.


Well, this player over here never asked for any form of map or game mode voting. <shrugs>


View PostWarHippy, on 10 January 2017 - 11:19 AM, said:

PGI in an attempt to give some people what they wanted ...


This is something that needs to be emphasized, over and over and over again. <shrugs again>

Edited by Mystere, 10 January 2017 - 11:39 AM.


#19 NextGame

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 11:57 AM

terra therma 1 was horrible and deserved deletion, and the current terra therma is also garbage and should be removed from the game.

#20 Steve Pryde

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 11:58 AM

Terra Therma is after the rework the most interesting map in the game imo. I think most people fear the "hot-iness" of the map but the funny thing is there are maps that are just hotter than Terra Therma. ^^





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