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#1 Enig

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 10:38 PM

So Elite and Legendary are the two I'm trying to choose between, but I really don't care about the mech selection given to the founder's package.

My main question is how much do mechs cost, how far will $80 worth of currency in the store get me? Are mechs four dollars each? Ten dollars?

Also, is there not a lifelong premium package I can buy like many competitors have where paying a large amount up front yields a permanent XP/Currency increase?

Lastly, is there is a list of available mechs that I can check out to make sure that my favored chassis are in the game before I commit? It's this or Planetside 2 for me moneywise, and the Planetside beta starts in the next three weeks, and seeing as how I'm in that beta I'd be far more inclined to dump my money on something I know plays well rather than what I hope plays well.


Thank you for taking the time to provide feedback on my questions guys, and I hope to see you out there. I'll be the one screaming something about damn dirty inner sphere.

#2 William Petersen

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 10:49 PM

SHUT UP AND GIVE THEM YOUR MONEY!


:cough: I mean, uh. We don't know and we're not likely to know any time soon (I.E. Before founder's program ends). If you have reservations just plunk down $60 for a sweet cash cow Founder's Mech, so you can earn piles 'o C-Bills, and use your $80 worth of MC to augment that. =D

I don't think they have plans for a "lifetime premium" account. I could be wrong, and we might see that after the founder's program. :shrug:


http://www.mwowiki.o...Confirmed_Mechs <--There's the current list, and it's expanding all the time.

#3 Jacob Ramsey

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 10:51 PM

Hey Enig, not a PGI employee, but I think I can try to answer some of your questions.

1. I am not aware of any released information on the cost of Mechs, however I do feel that 40-80$ of in game currency will certainly be enough for you to at least get the Mech/Mechs you like best, if they are sold in the micro-transaction store. Perhaps a PGI employee can shed more light on this.

2. At this point, I am also not aware of any lifelong premium packages being sold, however, remember that your Founders mech wil have built-in permanent C-bill boosters that never go away, just like your Mech and founder status will never go away.

3. The confirmed mechs that I know of (per the MWO Wiki) are

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Cataphract
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Catapult
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Centurion
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Cicada
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Commando
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Dragon
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Hunchback
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JagerMech
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Jenner
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Raven
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Spider
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Stalker
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Trebuchet
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Many will follow as this game will be an ongoing product, and there are rumors of other mechs, along with rumors of Clan mechs making an showing later down the road!

In closing, I totally understand being torn between this and PS2. I am looking forward to both, and signed up for both betas. We haven't had this much to look foward to in PC gaming for some time! My advice? At least buy the basic founders pack. It will speed beta access, and never go away. My brother is already in the Beta, and without breaking the NDA, I have seen the gameplay first hand, and it looks VERY solid.

Good luck, I'll see you around this and PS2!

#4 Der Zivilist

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 10:55 PM

Russ Bullock stated stated in the discussion about the Founders packs that each Founder's Mech is worth roughly $15 in cash shop currency, and each month of premium equals roughly $10.

Beyond that, we know nothing. We also don't know what 'Mechs or weapons will cost in C-Bills, either.

#5 William Petersen

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 10:56 PM

View PostDer Zivilist, on 19 July 2012 - 10:55 PM, said:

Beyond that, we know nothing. We also don't know what 'Mechs or weapons will cost in C-Bills, either.


Sarna should give a pretty good ball-park for that, what with them wanting to stay as true to canon as possible. <.<

#6 Der Zivilist

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 11:37 PM

I doubt they will, for one simple reason.

Cost of upgrading to Ferro-Fibrous armor: 0.00 C-Bills
Cost of upgrading to Endo-Steel structure: +3% of the 'Mech's cost
Cost of upgrading to Double Heat Sinks: +2% of the 'Mech's cost
Cost of upgrading to an XL engine: +100% of the 'Mech's cost

That, in my opinion, is completely out of whack. In a game like this, which relies entirely on grinding money for upgrades, you want armor, structure and heat sinks to cost something more than pocket change, while you don't want XL engines to be completely unaffordable.

I expect them to tune it to something far more intuitive, such as +10% for the normal upgrades at most, and +33% for the XL engine.

EDIT: Not to mention the fact that if they want to make light 'Mechs more deadly and useful, they need to be more expensive than in tabletop while assaults need to come down in price.

Edited by Der Zivilist, 19 July 2012 - 11:40 PM.


#7 Pvt Dancer

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 12:29 AM

Devs have also said that all chassies will be available to all players. The variants are the grind and select 'legendary' mechs (such as a named Centurion) are something you spend real money on. The difference between these 'legendary' mechs and the normal mech is mainly hard points.

#8 Der Zivilist

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 12:42 AM

Interesting. Can you point me to where the statements with the legendary 'Mechs were made? I'd like to know more.

#9 Redshift2k5

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 04:17 AM

View PostDer Zivilist, on 20 July 2012 - 12:42 AM, said:

Interesting. Can you point me to where the statements with the legendary 'Mechs were made? I'd like to know more.

There were a few comments made about premium mechs made in the Tweetchat
http://mwomercs.com/...tchat-round-up/

Only as a possibility, not an actual thing

#10 Der Zivilist

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 04:20 AM

Ah, I see what you meant. Thanks.

#11 Solarflux

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 04:36 AM

Also, I seem to remember seeing Russ write about mechs costing between $10-$15. I think it was in the topic where he answered questions about the Founder Packs.

#12 Enig

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:25 AM

I'd like to say thank you to all the wonderful responses. It's clear to me that the Battletech franchise continues to attract a mature and passionate following even to this day, and that may be enough to sell me in and of itself. At the very least I'll be getting the elite and chose the hunchback, but we'll see.

Thank you again everyone.

#13 Jacob Ramsey

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 09:40 AM

View PostEnig, on 20 July 2012 - 08:25 AM, said:

I'd like to say thank you to all the wonderful responses. It's clear to me that the Battletech franchise continues to attract a mature and passionate following even to this day, and that may be enough to sell me in and of itself. At the very least I'll be getting the elite and chose the hunchback, but we'll see.

Thank you again everyone.


I am really impressed with the community, no community is perfect but there are allot of good people here. Anyway, glad to see that we helped you out, and I strongly encourage at least the Veteran founder pack, there is a good chance it will no longer be around after August 7th, and you could always upgrade down the road. At least you will have your foot in the door! Anyway, good luck in deciding, my friend, I will look for you on the field.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 09:45 AM

View PostJacob Ramsey, on 20 July 2012 - 09:40 AM, said:


I am really impressed with the community, no community is perfect but there are allot of good people here. Anyway, glad to see that we helped you out, and I strongly encourage at least the Veteran founder pack, there is a good chance it will no longer be around after August 7th, and you could always upgrade down the road. At least you will have your foot in the door! Anyway, good luck in deciding, my friend, I will look for you on the field.


Aye, this.

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#15 James Lobo

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 02:16 AM

Hi guys

Do you think is better choose the mech class you want to improve or go for an alternative that you would just use to have fun and farm money ?

I mean I would like to go for assault but I will surely enjoy playing with medium or light too. Since I'm going to use assault as main I would probably change it (I hate Atlas) at some point, while I would surely keep the hunch as it is... any suggestion or thought ?

Thanks :P

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 02:26 AM

It's your decision to make.

#17 Squigles

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 02:35 AM

View PostEnig, on 19 July 2012 - 10:38 PM, said:

So Elite and Legendary are the two I'm trying to choose between, but I really don't care about the mech selection given to the founder's package.

My main question is how much do mechs cost, how far will $80 worth of currency in the store get me? Are mechs four dollars each? Ten dollars?

Also, is there not a lifelong premium package I can buy like many competitors have where paying a large amount up front yields a permanent XP/Currency increase?


Other's have answered the mech question, although it should be heavily stressed that it's still very much a work in progress, with more mechs being added to the list even as beta is going on. The last mech announced was the spider less then a week ago.

According to Russ, the 80$ worth of MC should buy you 8-10 medium mechs, slightly more light mechs, and slightly less of the heavier chassis's.

There may or may not be a lifetime premium, we don't know yet as there have been no officially released subscription plans. Think of the founders packs more as a kickstarter, you allocate some money towards the games development, and in exchange for hitting certain tier's, you're given some bonuses.

Should also be noted they've been pretty vehement against the game going P2W, absolutely nothing that can be bought with MC's (outside of cosmetics) can not be bought with the regular IG currency.

Edited by Squigles, 24 July 2012 - 02:35 AM.


#18 Elizander

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 04:43 AM

View PostJames Lobo, on 24 July 2012 - 02:16 AM, said:

Hi guys

Do you think is better choose the mech class you want to improve or go for an alternative that you would just use to have fun and farm money ?

I mean I would like to go for assault but I will surely enjoy playing with medium or light too. Since I'm going to use assault as main I would probably change it (I hate Atlas) at some point, while I would surely keep the hunch as it is... any suggestion or thought ?

Thanks :)


Pick something you believe you'll play often when farming for C-bills. Picking the Atlas because you think it's expensive is not a good idea if you will not play it a lot. If you can't stand to play the mech you pick the 25% C-bill bonus will go to waste.

#19 Steelo

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 04:51 AM

At the very least get the 30$ one just to support pgi, it will all be worth it come august 7th when we get to play

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 04:58 AM

No warhammer or archer on the list yet huh? :-( I will be plunking my $60 down for the founders Jenner this weekend. I haven't been this excited about an MMO since EQ1. Heck...I wasn't this excited about EQ1.

Edited by Dalberon, 24 July 2012 - 05:04 AM.






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