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[DavidStarr]

I'm at the point when I've mastered all the mechs in my possession (mastered the Catapult three times over, he-he) and have no C-Bills to buy new ones. So I wonder: is there any trick I can use to improve my C-Bills earnings per hour?

What's the rewards mechanics? Do certain actions that I could concentrate on yield better payment than other actions, i. e. can I earn more by tweaking my playstyle within the same general skill and winrate? Do different mech classes (medium, heavy, assault) yield different C-Bills per battle?

Should I play the champion trial mechs for their C-Bills bonus, even though my own fully unlocked and fit to my liking mechs probably perform a tad better?

Edited by DavidStarr, 21 December 2016 - 12:27 AM.

[Reverend Herring]

Get some free premium time here:
https://mwomercs.com...7-days-premium/

Premium time grants you +30% cBills. Combine that with your Hero mech's +30% cbills, and your earnings will rise significaly.

Chassis per se won't yield different rewards, but it is easier to do damage and get kills with heavys than it is with lights.

Also: Check this thread for reward mechanics
https://mwomercs.com...-get-xp-and-cb/

[Fox With A Shotgun]

There are a few things that improve CBills.

1) First and foremost, Hero mechs. A flat +30% bonus to earnings is quite substantial. But if you can't perform well in a hero, you aren't going to earn as much as you do on a mech you're already good with. After all, +30% on 50k is still less than +0% on 100k.

2) Wins. A victory awards much more exp and CBills than a loss. Making sure your team wins is, coincidentally, the best way to earn more CBills.

3) Conquest. Light pilots will hate your guts for voting Conquest (We do NOT like sitting in boxes for half the match!), but it does give a CBill bonus. A quite substantial one on the same order as a champion mech.

4) Damage. Farming damage can give more cbills, but you have to remember that doing more damage != efficiency. Even if you did 600 damage against an assault that didn't kill you, that 600 damage would have destroyed the CTs of 4-5 mechs. And when kills are the biggest contributor to wins (dead mechs can't stop you from doing objectives), farming damage for the sake of farming CBills is both selfish and ineffective.

Edited by Fox With A Shotgun, 21 December 2016 - 03:27 AM.

[DavidStarr]

Thanks!
So the score mostly relies on damage regardless of my mech's weight class? I. e. 400 dmg in a medium is the same as 400 in a heavy, and both are less than 500 in an assault? If so, It would seem LRMs are the best bet for me. I wish CPLT-A1(C) was available for C-Bills

Edited by DavidStarr, 21 December 2016 - 01:14 AM.

[DavidStarr]

Wind of Horror, on 21 December 2016 - 01:06 AM, said:

As most domination matches tend to have leroys going in without cover or teammates making the games go quicker.

In my [limited] experience, Domination battles drag on for a good while and are way harder to deal damage in, compared to pretty much any other mode.

Edited by DavidStarr, 21 December 2016 - 01:19 AM.

[Reverend Herring]

DavidStarr, on 21 December 2016 - 01:05 AM, said:

Thanks!
So the score mostly relies on damage regardless of my mech's weight class? I. e. 400 dmg in a medium is the same as 400 in a heavy, and both are less than 500 in an assault? If so, It would seem LRMs are the best bet for me. I wish CPLT-A1(C) was available for C-Bills

Yep. 400dmg is 40dmg, no matter the mech.

[SnagaDance]

People, Hero mechs have a C-bill bonus, not Champion mechs (and thus, the Trial mechs have no C-bill bonus either).

While doing damage helps earning C-bills it's the actual kills and assists that bring in the bigger money (even better, Savior kills, mmmm).

To combine with the advice from previous posts: Winning is good, surviving in itself nets you zero C-bills but staying alive probably means you contributing more, getting more Assists, getting more kills, getting more damage etc. In the end this all adds up.

Conquest gets more C-bills because you're not only rewarded for killing enemies, but also for the amount of Capture points (and these days the winner on kills get max capture points every time). So the best earning games here are killing the entire enemy team (or near enough). Even a losing team will get a better haul on a loss than during the other game modes.

I really like Conquest in my Lights btw. Get bonusses for capturing and first capture. The chance to not find the enemy in one big murder ball and maybe actually engage and win versus a few. Being able to contribute to a victory even if your team is losing on kills. Conquest is fun!

[DavidStarr]

SnagaDance, on 21 December 2016 - 01:37 AM, said:

People, Hero mechs have a C-bill bonus, not Champion mechs (and thus, the Trial mechs have no C-bill bonus either).

Are you certain? Is it XP bonus that Champion mechs give, then? They do give some bonus, I remember that!

P. S. Love your signature, SnagaDance

Edited by DavidStarr, 21 December 2016 - 01:43 AM.

[Bohxim]

Champions only give exp bonuses. Hero and premium time are the cbills boosters.
Make sure to press r when you see enemies, never know when it's a new one nobody scouted yet. Pick conquest whenever it pops up, it gives insane cbills bonuses. You could be even looking at a 200-300k game on a loss if done right and 400-600k on a win

[DavidStarr]

What kind of a bonus does a hero mech yield? Is it 30%?

[SnagaDance]

Yes, 30% C-bills for Hero mechs (or ones that count as such, like the Loyalty mechs or that give-away Centurion). 30% xp for Champion mechs (which makes buying champion mechs a waste of money unless it's just a convenience for getting a pre-upgraded mech, this can be useful for IS mechs when you need to buy an XL-engine, DHS upgrade etc. etc.).

Good one about pressing 'R' Boxhim. Good C-bill earning potential there, especially for forward roaming Lights.

@DavidStarr: Glad you like the signature. Though in truth, I do not run any PPC on my D-DC.

[DavidStarr]

SnagaDance, on 21 December 2016 - 02:33 AM, said:

Though in truth, I do not run any PPC on my D-DC.

I should hope not!

Edited by DavidStarr, 21 December 2016 - 02:54 AM.

[Bohxim]

No worries. Just a little tip to grab a quick buck as well as help the team win. Good practice to always have a mech in sight targetted

[DavidStarr]

Do I understand correctly that it is only when you target a mech that its location becomes known to your teammates? Not when you spot it, i. e. it becomes targetable?

[Hunter Tseng]

Yes only when you target the enemy they become known to your team mates, so spamming the R key only show quick blimp on their minimap but spamming that R key is a good cbills booster as well XD
But pop up a uav and even without targeting them they will be known to your teammates, and can generate some c bills I think by getting the LRM lock assist and damage

[Jables McBarty]

Reverend Herring, on 21 December 2016 - 12:49 AM, said:

Get some free premium time here:
https://mwomercs.com...7-days-premium/

Premium time grants you +30% cBills. Combine that with your Hero mech's +30% cbills, and your earnings will rise significaly.

Chassis per se won't yield different rewards, but it is easier to do damage and get kills with heavys than it is with lights.

Also: Check this thread for reward mechanics
https://mwomercs.com...-get-xp-and-cb/

PT gives you +50% to both XP and CBills, not just +30% (which is what Heroes/Champs give for Cbills/XP respectively).

DavidStarr, on 21 December 2016 - 01:05 AM, said:

Thanks!
So the score mostly relies on damage regardless of my mech's weight class? I. e. 400 dmg in a medium is the same as 400 in a heavy, and both are less than 500 in an assault? If so, It would seem LRMs are the best bet for me. I wish CPLT-A1(C) was available for C-Bills

Reverend Herring, on 21 December 2016 - 01:31 AM, said:

Yep. 400dmg is 40dmg, no matter the mech.

This is true--damage is damage--however if can you post the same exact numbers (dmg, K/A/KMDD) in a light/medium as you do in a heavy/assault, you'll make more money.

Why?

Well, there is the one-time Scouting Bonus (and the First Capture bonus, which in my experience is often universal), but also because Lights and Mediums get special "Protected Light" and "Protected Medium" bonuses simply for being around other 'mechs in higher weight classes.

From the thread that Rev. Herring cross-posted:

stjobe, on 14 July 2015 - 03:48 PM, said:

Protected Light:

• Be in a light 'Mech.
  
• Stay close to a 'Mech that is at least 2 weight classes higher.
  
• Both are engaged.
  
• Reward occurs every 8 seconds.

Protected Medium:

• Be in a medium 'Mech.
  
• Stay close to a 'Mech that is at least 2 weight classes higher.
  
• Both are engaged.
  
• Reward occurs every 8 seconds.

Protect Proximity:

• Staying in a radius of 150 meters to a damaged friendly 'Mech (critical damage).
  
• Be engaged.
  
• Reward occurs every 10 seconds if not interrupted.

Now, it's generally taboo to advise newbies to pilot lights, but if you have the skill, the deathwish, and some consistency, you might be able to up your earnings that way. When I want to farm Cbills, I hop into my Pirates' Bane Hero 'mech.

[Fox With A Shotgun]

DavidStarr, on 21 December 2016 - 08:44 AM, said:

Do I understand correctly that it is only when you target a mech that its location becomes known to your teammates? Not when you spot it, i. e. it becomes targetable?

Yep. A targetable enemy is only visible to your own radar. It does NOT show up on ally radars.

A locked enemy is visible to your team's radars, EXCEPT if you are under ECM while locking them. Once you have targeting data (the paper doll shows up), your team will also get the same data instantly, as long as you maintain the lock. While people don't think that this is important, the 1.5 second difference between knowing where to hit a mech where it hurts and just splashing damage randomly is critical to being able to drop enemies very quickly.

As a side note, UAVs do NOT provide targeting data. UAVs do provide Mech foot direction, however, while locking on doesn't.

[xengk]

DavidStarr, on 21 December 2016 - 12:26 AM, said:

What's the rewards mechanics? Do certain actions that I could concentrate on yield better payment than other actions, i. e. can I earn more by tweaking my playstyle within the same general skill and winrate? Do different mech classes (medium, heavy, assault) yield different C-Bills per battle?

You can find a list of match reward here.
http://mwo.gamepedia...ategory:Rewards
https://mwomercs.com...45-21-oct-2014/
Reward pays you CBills and EXP for action you done within a match, most can be score multiple time a match.

Edited by xengk, 22 December 2016 - 12:37 AM.

[ingramli]

For C-Bills boost, one of the free way is riding on the Centurion NCIX that gives out for free, i am doing it now to save funds for the next mech, you may want to spend some funds upfront to upgrade it, but in long run you should earn more, provided that you do well with it.

Edited by ingramli, 22 December 2016 - 01:17 AM.

[DavidStarr]

ingramli, on 22 December 2016 - 01:16 AM, said:

For C-Bills boost, one of the free way is riding on the Centurion NCIX that gives out for free.

Good point. That occurred to me as well. Earnings seem like nothing to write home about, but then again, I was mostly losing, so we'll see. Losing with good damage, though, 350-450. At least LRMs let it deal decent damage for a medium.

Edited by DavidStarr, 23 December 2016 - 02:18 AM.