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[JC Daxion]

Is this in the game? If not i really think it should be.. I know it is not a huge issue, but i do see it happen enough that it does bug me..

Sometimes you just know it is because of the map, as i NEVER have seen anyone do this on HPG for example, But terra.. Yea a heck of a lot more than once.

But earlier today there was a guy dropping in matches, and i forget his name or i would of sent an e-mail, But he did it in 4 games that i was in, and i am sure he did it more when i wasn't. The match would start, and in about 10 seconds he was dead by suicide and would quit the game. I'd then see him in another match and do the exact same thing.

He happened to be on the opposite team every time, but it made me feel bad that he was putting his team down one mech and why i have no idea.. Do no damage and die in the first min or so, should get you a lock out..



Just like killing multiple mechs in a single match should be a severe penalty. And there is a big difference than accidentally shooting someone, verse coring a guy from behind at start-up..

the other day someone did this, and i turned towards him, as i was not going to leave my back to him, and he stared me down.. but such a pansy he would not fire,, after a min he turned and followed the team and i chalked it up as an accident.. I have hit the wrong key a couple times in my 6k+ drops, though never killed someone.. but i can see how a Nova alpha could do it, so benefit of the doubt. he then caught up to a heavy, and did the same thing.. at this point the entire team turned on him and was down in no time.. (i did get the kill blow so didn't even get a penalty, but would of gladly taken a 5 min hit for it, it would be plainly obvious through game logs what happened so i wouldn't sweat it getting reported.)

So we were down 3 mechs,, for the match.. yippy! We actually ended up killing 5 of the other teams which wasn't to bad all things considered.

Anyways.. Just some thoughts about the auto ban tools we have, and perhaps they need some expanding?

Edited by JC Daxion, 17 January 2017 - 02:41 PM.

[GenghisJr]

Has anyone else noticed you never get FF at the start when you can reply with a 60-70 point alpha?

[NighthawK1337]

You can report him you know. There's a report option for suiciding and AFK.

There's tactical reason for suiciding like doing an heat override alpha when you're certainly gonna die, etc. You don't report people for overheat suicide when they kill an enemy in the process right?

No reason to auto ban suicide. Override was put there for a reason. Just do the community a favor and report the sucker.

[RestosIII]

NighthawK1337, on 17 January 2017 - 02:55 PM, said:

You don't report people for overheat suicide when they kill an enemy in the process right?

Well, there are idiots that do that. I've been yelled at by one of my own teammates for hitting override and popping 2 enemies before I exploded from my own heat buildup because I "Wasted a mech my team could have used to win." I was a legged Adder dammit, I got the best possible outcome from that situation.

[Snazzy Dragon]

RestosIII, on 17 January 2017 - 03:09 PM, said:

Well, there are idiots that do that. I've been yelled at by one of my own teammates for hitting override and popping 2 enemies before I exploded from my own heat buildup because I "Wasted a mech my team could have used to win." I was a legged Adder dammit, I got the best possible outcome from that situation.

I ignore the salt and let the match scores at the end do the talking most of the time

[Tempest Omega]

OP the issue is it's all about context. An automated system would have a hard time figuring out a griefing suicide vs a calculated risk gone bad or making the best of what you have left and over achieving.

As someone else mentioned, report it and let PGI sort it out.

[Scout Derek]

Yeah, PGI is secretly kuritans. They hate when you suicide.

Honobru death!

[JC Daxion]

Tempest Omega, on 17 January 2017 - 04:04 PM, said:

OP the issue is it's all about context. An automated system would have a hard time figuring out a griefing suicide vs a calculated risk gone bad or making the best of what you have left and over achieving.

As someone else mentioned, report it and let PGI sort it out.

not sure how suicide in the first 30 secs of the game could be anything but on purpose..Seams like a simple thing. i think if i did that on accident durring that time i would deserve to sit out 5 mins for being a moron!

[a gaijin]

Tempest Omega, on 17 January 2017 - 04:04 PM, said:

OP the issue is it's all about context. An automated system would have a hard time figuring out a griefing suicide vs a calculated risk gone bad or making the best of what you have left and over achieving.

As someone else mentioned, report it and let PGI sort it out.

I second this.
There have been a few times I'm a little embarrassed to admit that I've hit override trying to stay in the fight and weigh my cool down with timed shots but ended up killing myself.

Now, if they're doing it at the beginning of the match, just report them using the scoreboard menu's built in reporting tool.
Sometimes it just happens.

[Mystere]

Some people here get salty when someone suicides for whatever reason?

Well, all I can say to this is:

Banzai!

[NRP]

Why don't you report the crappy map that forced the suicide instead?

[Mystere]

NRP, on 17 January 2017 - 05:51 PM, said:

Why don't you report the crappy map that forced the suicide instead?

Ahem! One person's crappy map is another persons Nirvana.

[LordNothing]

the only time i suicide is when im dead already. like when im cored red, legged and surrounded. try to run and you are dead, do nothing and you are dead, shoot the enemy and you are dead. best thing to do is hit the override and put as much damage into the enemy before your core explodes or they kill you. its better than spending your last seconds alive shut down from heat. suiciding by ejecting from a fresh mech and suiciding by shooting into the air totally ban that crap. but dont punish dieing well.

Edited by LordNothing, 17 January 2017 - 06:21 PM.

[Vellron2005]

I think its difficult for PGI to distinguish suicide to heat override in the middle of combat, and suicide to heat in the beginning of match..

This is why auto-penalty for any suicide would not work.

If you see a suspicious suicide - report it.

[C E Dwyer]

It can't be reliably enforced using software.

How can it determine between a person who deliberately jumps off a tall space, to destroy legs and who mearly missed how close they were to the edge of a fall.

as Vellron has said only way it can be reliably reported is screen shot report by e-mail, or hope that enough people hit the report button and it gets reviewed

Edited by Cathy, 18 January 2017 - 07:14 AM.

[The Unstoppable Puggernaut]

Going out of bounds should be penalised. "Cowardice will not be tolerated". I can't find a good reason for this, ever. This should be penalised.

If PGI could recognise someone overheating and dying without causing any damage, again the above should apply. I saw someone do this in FW when we were about to charge in. It's rediculous.

Disconnects really need to be profiled. If people are disconnecting and never making an effort to rejoin, they should bloody well be penalised then banned. In FW you have a very long time to join in again but I see many people don't.
If you are blaming it on your PC, TOUGH DAMN LUCK.
I've had an 8 year old PC with an AMD graphics card both overclocked to hell, and now a new PC with a nvidia card and in both cases my game is stable. If it crashes out from a bad overclock, the first thing I'd do is re-join. Overall I'd never accept any of my games crashing and find out how to settle it.

PGI needs to get more strict with identifying bad behaviour and repeat offending for sure !