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#1 nowereman

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 07:27 PM

situation - i'm ride on Cicada, and have lethal hit.
okay, no problem.
but i see damage board, and... WTF???
ammo explosion? ))
how, if i can't have anyone, any, anywhere? ))
you can say - dos'nt matter, you're already dead...
but - if it's game error, bug or etc, - it WILL be finded and it WILL be used to cheat.

https://lh3.googleus...A=w1472-h920-no

https://lh3.googleus...j=w1472-h920-no

Edited by nowereman, 21 January 2017 - 07:33 PM.


#2 Alex Morgaine

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 07:33 PM

Oh you weren't using an xl combustion engine?
:D
I got nothing...

#3 Blue Boutique

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 07:55 PM

Ammo explosion used to damage nearby mechs, I believe. Used to be joke commandos running around filled with mg ammo for laughs.

Edited by Blue Boutique, 21 January 2017 - 07:56 PM.


#4 SuomiWarder

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 07:58 PM

For quite a while a guass rifle explosion had the Ammo explosion message even though that didn't happen. (Not sure this was ever fixed). My best guess is that your engine destroyed notice somehow made the ammo explosion note script activate and show up in error. I will have to keep an eye on my next deaths and see if any engine destroyed deaths give me an ammo explosion message when I have no ammo.

In short, I would suspect that the ammo explosion message is a coding error from something else - not that you had non existant ammo explode and kill your mech.

#5 Mole

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 08:26 PM

This is the second thread you've appeared with tonight that has been complaining of mysterious death bugs that seem to effect nobody else but you. I'm convinced this is user error. Without more information I don't know how to help you.

EDIT: Somehow missed the second link that showed your build. If that's the build you were using then I have no idea how that could have happened. It's never happened to me before.

Edited by Mole, 21 January 2017 - 08:33 PM.


#6 RestosIII

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 08:29 PM

No idea, but...

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That build is TERRIBLE. Grab Ferro or Endo or something to get proper armor coverage! DEAR GOD MAN.

#7 Mcgral18

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 08:41 PM

View PostRestosIII, on 21 January 2017 - 08:29 PM, said:

No idea, but...

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That build is TERRIBLE. Grab Ferro or Endo or something to get proper armor coverage! DEAR GOD MAN.


And that's coming from Mr Stock Man




I have no explanation

#8 Deathlike

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 08:52 PM

It's so squishy, it's not even funny.

I think there may be a error/death message bug... probably due to the ECM removal. That's only my guess (because, PGI).

#9 Bombast

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 08:54 PM

Maybe the ECM popping counted as an explosion?

Either that, or the armor is so thin the enemy fire went through your armor, through your internal structure, and all the way back into your MechLab to hit one of your mechs that does have ammo.

#10 Koniving

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 09:06 PM

View Postnowereman, on 21 January 2017 - 07:27 PM, said:

situation - i'm ride on Cicada, and have lethal hit.
okay, no problem.
but i see damage board, and... WTF???
ammo explosion? ))
how, if i can't have anyone, any, anywhere? ))
you can say - dos'nt matter, you're already dead...
but - if it's game error, bug or etc, - it WILL be finded and it WILL be used to cheat.

https://lh3.googleus...A=w1472-h920-no

https://lh3.googleus...j=w1472-h920-no


Ammo is easy to deal with.

What you need is to do some crit stuffing.

Basically, each item takes one or more slots also called "crits."

Fill the slots, it's very hard for damage to focus on the smaller things like ammo.
So
For our first example lets say you have 1 ton of ammunition in the right torso and nothing else. Bam, someone hit your structure. They rolled a crit. There's a 100% chance it'll be your ammo. KABOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well that just sucks, doesn't it?
Example 2. You have 1 ton of ammo in the right torso + 3 DHS.
Bam, they hit your structure. Oh they scored a crit. There's now a 10% chance they will hit your ammo. BAM! There goes a heatsink! You've alive!
Oh wait, another crit! There's a 14.28% chance they'll get your ammo. Bam! Another heatsink; you're still alive!
Yet another crit! There's a 25% chance they'll get your ammo. BAM! Yet another heatsink and you're still -- oh wait, you lost the torso due to damage but NEVER blew up due to ammo.

Huh.
Well whaddya know?

Edited by Koniving, 21 January 2017 - 09:07 PM.


#11 Snazzy Dragon

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 09:52 PM

The fact that you're not even running half armor.. blegh.

Don't complain about mysterious deaths if you are going to run around with a terribly underarmored and undergunned and underupgraded build.

#12 RestosIII

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 09:53 PM

View PostSnazzy Dragon, on 21 January 2017 - 09:52 PM, said:

The fact that you're not even running half armor.. blegh.

Don't complain about mysterious deaths if you are going to run around with a terribly underarmored and undergunned and underupgraded build.


It's not a good sign when my lore builds are better than his build. It's REALLY not a good sign.

#13 Snazzy Dragon

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 09:55 PM

View PostRestosIII, on 21 January 2017 - 09:53 PM, said:


It's not a good sign when my lore builds are better than his build. It's REALLY not a good sign.


It can't be as bad as MechAssault "lore" builds. Hellbringers with 2 LRM launchers, 2 gauss rifles, some kind of flame rocket weapon thing, and jumpjets? K. :P

#14 The Unstoppable Puggernaut

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Posted 22 January 2017 - 12:19 AM

It displayed this message to send you here to get some help. It's just a bug, try reporting it (especially if you can repeat it).

I love that guys name in one of your pictures: Rick Atlasey

Edited by The Unstoppable Puggernaut, 22 January 2017 - 12:20 AM.


#15 Bombast

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Posted 22 January 2017 - 12:22 AM

View PostSnazzy Dragon, on 21 January 2017 - 09:55 PM, said:

It can't be as bad as MechAssault "lore" builds. Hellbringers with 2 LRM launchers, 2 gauss rifles, some kind of flame rocket weapon thing, and jumpjets? K. Posted Image


Two Words: Lava Gun.

Edited by Bombast, 22 January 2017 - 12:22 AM.


#16 Deathlike

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Posted 22 January 2017 - 12:22 AM

View PostThe Unstoppable Puggernaut, on 22 January 2017 - 12:19 AM, said:

I love that guys name in one of your pictures: Rick Atlasey


He's not gonna give you up...
He's not gonna let you down...
He's never gonna run around and desert you...

Someone really does play to his name.

#17 RestosIII

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Posted 22 January 2017 - 12:28 AM

View PostBombast, on 22 January 2017 - 12:22 AM, said:


Two Words: Lava Gun.


Did you just use the L-word in my presence?!?!

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Never mention that atrocity ever again. My blood pressure can't handle that sort of rage.

#18 Snazzy Dragon

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Posted 22 January 2017 - 12:45 AM

View PostRestosIII, on 22 January 2017 - 12:28 AM, said:

Did you just use the L-word in my presence?!?!

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Never mention that atrocity ever again. My blood pressure can't handle that sort of rage.


If you're mad about the lava gun I'd hate to see how you feel about my MechAssault inspired timber wolf. PPC arms on it really are quite dreadful though and SRM + PPC is an awkward mix. But at least I've got 3 backup MGs. :D

#19 RestosIII

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Posted 22 January 2017 - 12:50 AM

View PostSnazzy Dragon, on 22 January 2017 - 12:45 AM, said:


If you're mad about the lava gun I'd hate to see how you feel about my MechAssault inspired timber wolf. PPC arms on it really are quite dreadful though and SRM + PPC is an awkward mix. But at least I've got 3 backup MGs. :D


The TBR-D config makes PPC's+SRMs fine in my book. But I'll insist on them being SSRMs.

#20 Requiemking

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Posted 22 January 2017 - 12:52 AM

View PostRestosIII, on 22 January 2017 - 12:28 AM, said:

Did you just use the L-word in my presence?!?!

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Never mention that atrocity ever again. My blood pressure can't handle that sort of rage.

*Loads up a Bane with all the Lava gunz*





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