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If You Don't Coordinate With Your Team, Dont Blame Them


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#1 Scout Derek

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 07:35 PM

It's been awhile since I've touched on this, but today it arose in one of my matches.

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This is what I'm talking about. Losing, but blaming your team for it when you clearly didn't do nothing.

Word of advice to this censored pug, actually, any pug, in general; Don't ever blame your team for losing if you didn't attempt to direct them at all, or at least coordinate. You will be ridiculed by even the enemy team if you wanna take a **** on your team because you lost.

This is a teamwork game. If you want to win, you work with your team. If you try to coordinate and you lose, just know that the people you play with will get better at understanding orders and follow them. If no one works together, you lose. In that match, our team coordinated and won that match because we constantly tagged targets and told one another where to go and focus on.


This is also the end of the match, with the score of the guy who was complaining and overall of everyone in that match:

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#2 Tyler Valentine

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 07:40 PM

Amen.

#3 Mcgral18

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 07:43 PM

If half of them fail to deal 200 damage, I'm going to blame them


Sorry

#4 Scout Derek

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 07:50 PM

View PostMcgral18, on 26 January 2017 - 07:43 PM, said:

If half of them fail to deal 200 damage, I'm going to blame them


Sorry

The main point is to show that they might've done better if someone, had attempted to take control of their team and heard them.

Teamwork = win.

No Teamwork = potato scores.

#5 Davegt27

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 07:54 PM

lol yeah one of many examples of jack holes blaming other people for the loss

basically they are saying I am great the rest of the team sucks

they don't even have enough class to keep their mouths shut and take a loss as a loss and just move on

#6 Levi Porphyrogenitus

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 08:00 PM

The worst part is when you try to command a pug and nobody plays ball, then when you inquire after the fact one or more claim that comms are pointless.

The best part is when you try to command a pug, you get immediate responses in voice comms or chat for those without mikes, and you wind up rolling the enemy.

A poor plan executed with vigor and dispatch is better than a perfect plan that is never executed, which might as well be no plan at all. If you can get even a bad plan put together and have a sufficient mass of your team play ball, you can reliably beat anyone short of a coordinated premade with actual practice and discipline.

#7 Battlemaster56

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 08:01 PM

Sorry but if my team leave me the only mech on their team with ECM on polar tardlands, and get pelted by 6 lrm boats I'm gonna blame them for cowering. And mostly because one enemy medium is pushing on their side.

#8 Johnny Z

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 08:01 PM

Losing team had what amounted to 5 team killers. Why they lost.

#9 Novakaine

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 08:01 PM

Just another sad example of the newly discovered lone wolf potatoes.
Cause in the real world Arnold would not kill a whole army by his lonesome.
And apparently it didn't happen here either.
Teamwork OP plz nerf.
Potato Warrior Online
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Edited by Novakaine, 26 January 2017 - 08:04 PM.


#10 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 08:04 PM

View PostMcgral18, on 26 January 2017 - 07:43 PM, said:

If half of them fail to deal 200 damage, I'm going to blame them


Sorry

if you did nothing to help direct....you are as much a part of the problem as them.

Sorry. (mind you...if you did and they ignored you...then, they got what they deserved)

#11 Johnny Z

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 08:12 PM

I have low score matches. If that happens I will take the blame. Wouldn't blame it on any made up excuse.

#12 4rcs1ne

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 08:14 PM

I agree with the sentiment, however no amount of communication can fix stupidity.

#13 Y E O N N E

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 08:18 PM

I always type out enemy locations, often what 'Mechs I've seen, and when/where to push if I can.

Honestly, though, people would be better players if they would simply observe the mini-map. Are you with a large group of friendlies huddling around the corner from the main enemy line? Do you see a small crew of friendlies suddenly being moved on by a whole bunch of reds on the mini-map? There's your chance for free back shots, f*cking go!

#14 Scout Derek

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 08:19 PM

View PostMatt2496, on 26 January 2017 - 08:14 PM, said:

I agree with the sentiment, however no amount of communication can fix stupidity.


That's perfectly fine. but if you don't attempt to then you're just as much as fault for not trying.

#15 xTrident

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 08:41 PM

Someone complaining like the player did in the OP's screens I understand why everyone would be on him. But to potentially place more blame on that person than anyone else because he spoke up, I don't know about that.

Typing or using VOIP to lead your team I will absolutely not deny is helpful. But... I get tired of the simple tactics being lost on players. Such as using cover, poke - shoot - cover again. Or not engaging the entire enemy team by yourself. But my biggest gripe - the complete lack of using the mini-map or so it seems. Because I use the mini-map to see targets all the time to know where they are. I constantly watch to see how the team is going to move. And by doing so you can also literally see them move back and cower, or not move at all when a clear push by part of your team is being made via the mini-map. I see it all the time. Simple things people don't do and it's extremely frustrating. Time and time again I see the enemy team split up enough that if our team, who is balled up and pretty tightly packed together, would push one way or another on part of the enemy we'd probably come out far ahead. Instead we all stand still while the enemy team groups up together themselves. And yes, usually my *** is near the front trying to poke out and shoot one of these groups in an effort to get them to visually see that it's happening, that someone is trying to go in that direction and ot help.

Finally, as Mcgral mentioned - 200 damage really isn't that hard to get and I also have a problem with a teammate that can't coordinate themselves enough without being told in depth what to do to even do that. And yeah, I have matches where I do less than 200 damage and it does frustrate me because I know I did terrible and I am definitely part of the reason we lose the match if we do. And if we win I know I didn't contribute **** to that.

In the end, majority of the time I don't say anything and if I do it's nothing like what the OP shared with us. I don't pick players out and I typically lump myself into the disappointment of that match. More and more I have been calling out what I think are poor moves/decisions in these matches. But again, I'm not tearing my teammates apart. It's more constructive criticism in which, if they didn't learn just by how badly the match wound up it's reinforced by my comment. But I certainly take my share of blame for a loss.

View PostMcgral18, on 26 January 2017 - 07:43 PM, said:

If half of them fail to deal 200 damage, I'm going to blame them


Sorry


While I agree, the player complaining in OP's screens was no where 200 damage them self.

Edited by xTrident, 26 January 2017 - 08:50 PM.


#16 cazidin

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 08:43 PM

The LAST time I tried to lead a team, half of us got sub 50 damage. I, naturally, did over 1,000 by masterfully employing my teammates as metal-shields in succession and for some reason they followed this, but I probably shouldn't be leading them. No, I'll just blame them for poor performance AND not protecting me.

#17 Shiroi Tsuki

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 08:44 PM

Pffft Earth is flat?
Go back to school. Earth is a cube

#18 Xmith

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 09:03 PM

After a match light that, I would have been long gone. I like missing out on stuff like this.

Gaming mice are also good for getting that fast click on exit.

#19 RestosIII

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 09:05 PM

View PostShiroi Tsuki, on 26 January 2017 - 08:44 PM, said:

Pffft Earth is flat?
Go back to school. Earth is a cube


TIR the Earth is actually just a giant despair cube. That explains things.

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#20 Battlemaster56

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 09:06 PM

View PostShiroi Tsuki, on 26 January 2017 - 08:44 PM, said:

Pffft Earth is flat?
Go back to school. Earth is a cube

What! Nooo!!! The Earth is a pyramid.





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