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[Rhydderch Dyfnwal]

I see it mentioned in relation to House Marik.

[Spheroid]

The Free Worlds League

[Koniving]

Rhydderch Dyfnwal, on 29 January 2017 - 09:50 PM, said:

I see it mentioned in relation to House Marik.

The proper name of the faction that House Marik is in charge of.

The proper names are as follows:
Liao - Capellan Confederation. "L" variants are Liao variants.
Marik - Free Worlds League (closest thing to the US of America, despite the fact that most call Davions Space America).
Note: "M" variants are Marik variants. You will notice they always have the best tech; this is because Mariks stayed out of most of the 300+ years of fighting and kept the highest stockpiles of the best tech... second only to Comstar. It's a shame that in lore they have very little real combat experience.
Steiner - Lyran Commonwealth (Space Germany), these guys are filthy rich and their leadership is often awful due to 'mostly' being rich people who buy their ranks. S variants are Steiner specific.
Davion - Federated Suns (often dubbed Space America due to the love of autocannons and cocky heroic figures, despite the main languages being split between French and English). D variants are attributed to the Davions.
Kurita - Draconis Combine. K variants are attributed most to them. The Jenner, Dragon, and Kintaro are all staple Kurita mechs.
Rassalhague - Free Rassalhague Republic. Don't know if anything is attributed to them. Uses mostly Kurita and Steiner gear.

Hope that has helped.
Note: Star League era mechs such as the Hunchback, Highlander, King Crab and various others follow a very different naming scheme.

Edited by Koniving, 01 February 2017 - 10:43 AM.

[Tesunie]

House Marik is the "ruling house" of the Free World's League nation. Which is shortened down to FWL for short.

It's the same with the other nations/houses for the IS. House Davion basically runs the Federated Suns. Kurita runs the Driconis Combine. Liao manages to rule the Capelion Confederation. Etc.

[Tesunie]

Given enough time, and Koniving always shows up with the right answer.

Koniving, on 29 January 2017 - 10:19 PM, said:

Rassalhague - Free Rassalhague Republic. Don't know if anything is attributed to them. Uses mostly Kurita and Steiner gear.

I don't believe they existed long enough to get anything specific. After they formed, the Clans apparently decided that was a good time to just go in and take them over (in an attempt to control the entire IS, which we all know almost actually succeeded).

[Vxheous]

Tesunie, on 29 January 2017 - 10:24 PM, said:

Given enough time, and Koniving always shows up with the right answer.



I don't believe they existed long enough to get anything specific. After they formed, the Clans apparently decided that was a good time to just go in and take them over (in an attempt to control the entire IS, which we all know almost actually succeeded).

Pretty sure FRR was created specifically so that Clans had a punching bag to wreck without really harming the rest of the traditional IS factions (from a game design perspective)

[Tesunie]

Vxheous Kerensky, on 29 January 2017 - 10:38 PM, said:

Pretty sure FRR was created specifically so that Clans had a punching bag to wreck without really harming the rest of the traditional IS factions (from a game design perspective)

Maybe. Maybe not. Might have just been story telling, or they decided they didn't really want to try and write in another faction too deeply, so they decided to just destroy it.

But, I am more likely to agree with you. It probably was created to prop up a "neutral" identity that could be hammered away at without overly causing drama among fans.

I can tell you, I wasn't happy when St. Ives Compact was destroyed in lore... I actually out right gave the book where they were defeated away to my brother. I just... I couldn't... How could they!

Imagine what people would think if Steiner or the Combine took some even more serious losses... and/or got crushed and destroyed. (Even more established factions than St. Ives Compact was!)

[Koniving]

Tesunie, on 29 January 2017 - 10:24 PM, said:

I don't believe they existed long enough to get anything specific. After they formed, the Clans apparently decided that was a good time to just go in and take them over (in an attempt to control the entire IS, which we all know almost actually succeeded).

Any idea what faction the Atlas RS model was produced for?

For reference:
D and D-DC are Davion and Davion Dual Cockpit. 7 is just 7th generation. 8 is 8th generation.
(So the AS8-D is the 8th generation Davion-produced model while the AS7-D is the 7th generation Davion produced model).
K is commissioned by Kurita.
S and S2 are Steiner commissioned models.
C is a Comstar variant, and is newer than most of them, as is the K.
C is actually "Combine." It is a common modification done by the Draconis Combine faction of the Atlas K done by the military itself separate of the ruling House Kurita (in other words House Kurita never commissioned it; they just did it because they could and wanted to use some of the new advanced technology being brought back around the same time.)
So who is RS?


Rasalhague would be FRR or FR for short.

So far, RS is no specific faction... so I might have to look into the larger merc units to see who would be powerful enough and have the right initials to commission the RS.

Found out Atlases are almost never modified outside of factory commissions, as techs have to make far too many concessions to keep the machine running after mods... Mainly due to its very compact girth for its weight to height ratio (of 13.8 meters) (in reference to the 7th generation. Evidently the 8th generation gained an entire 1.3 meters in height and kept the girth ratio, so they are 'thicker' too, allowing for room for things like double heatsinks).

Sadly, nothing on the RS. I found that looking for the supposed origin of the RS.

Edited by Koniving, 30 January 2017 - 10:48 AM.

[Tesunie]

Koniving, on 30 January 2017 - 10:02 AM, said:

So who is RS?

Rasalhague would be FRR or FR for short.

So far, RS is no specific faction... so I might have to look into the larger merc units to see who would be powerful enough and have the right initials to commission the RS.

Could it stand more for "R" Rasalhague and "S" for Steiner? Could it have been a joint commission between the two? Steiner supported their independence after all from the Combine. It would make sense if they continued to try and do so afterwards. (I believe they did that for two reasons. 1. Politics. 2. To create a neutral or favorable nation to them as a buffer between themselves and the Combine.)

What number is associated with the RS? Could it have also been Star League? (They used different naming conventions back then.)

[Koniving]

Found it!


Royal Service. It's an inferior Succession Wars era mockup of the Atlas II, a Royal Guard model of which every single model left with General Kerensky (eventual founding family of the Clans).

Tesunie, on 30 January 2017 - 10:37 AM, said:

What number is associated with the RS? Could it have also been Star League? (They used different naming conventions back then.)

That's what I started to think. Then for some reason it refers to the Atlas II and I'm like, "what?" So I looked that up.

Then it started to make sense.

There isn't a specific group that tried it, apparently many groups made the attempt. The RS loadout is generic, in other words open to interpretation for that reason.

[Koniving]

Also fun since we're learning about factions.
This is part joke, mind you, but it gives you a little bit of an idea about the factions too.


Kurita is accurate; Jenner. Davion is accurate, Locust. Liao is accurate, Raven. Marik... does prefer vehicles to scout with but that's a demolisher, a 'mech killer' with twin AC/20s. That's not what they scout with; it's slow and it would basically annihilate anything in its path. Steiner is the real joke, though. An on going in-universe canon joke about Steiners and their stereotyped incompetent leadership and unbelievable wealth... what would be a better culmination of that, then four Atlases going 54 kph to 'scout' for enemies?

Steiners actually use Commandos for that..and for some reason the Zeus. No, seriously.