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How Much Are You Willing To Spend To Level/respec/etc?


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Poll: How much would you be okay with paying? (21 member(s) have cast votes)

Total C-Bill cost for leveling Mech

  1. It should be free (4 votes [19.05%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.05%

  2. Under 1 million is fair (1 votes [4.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.76%

  3. 1 - 2.5 million is fair (4 votes [19.05%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.05%

  4. 2.5 - 5 million is fair (7 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

  5. 9.1 million that PGI suggests is good (5 votes [23.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.81%

Total XP cost per Mech

  1. Under 50,000, it takes too long already (1 votes [4.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.76%

  2. 56,000, like it is now (3 votes [14.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

  3. 70,000-80,000 is okay if Rule of 3 is gone (7 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

  4. 100,000 is okay (2 votes [9.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.52%

  5. 136,500 exactly as PGI wants (8 votes [38.10%])

    Percentage of vote: 38.10%

C-Bill cost for respec (including reapplying the point)

  1. It should be free. That it costs anything is a blasphemy (6 votes [28.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.57%

  2. Really cheap, like 1,000 C-Bills per point (11 votes [52.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 52.38%

  3. I'm okay with paying a bit, maybe 10-25 thousand per point (1 votes [4.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.76%

  4. Half what PGI says (maybe 50k per point) (2 votes [9.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.52%

  5. PGI is right, it should be 125k per point (1 votes [4.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.76%

Total C-Bill cost for a complete respec?

  1. See above, respecs should be free! (7 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

  2. Under 500k (8 votes [38.10%])

    Percentage of vote: 38.10%

  3. Maybe 1-2 million (3 votes [14.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

  4. 5 million is pushing it (2 votes [9.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.52%

  5. PGI is right, 11 million is just fine (1 votes [4.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.76%

What should using MC for a respec get you?

  1. Uh...I said it should be free! Why are we bringing MC into this? (8 votes [38.10%])

    Percentage of vote: 38.10%

  2. It should fully unlock the point, so you pay 0 C-Bills total (8 votes [38.10%])

    Percentage of vote: 38.10%

  3. It should do what PGI suggests and unlock the point so you can spend C-Bills to reapply it (4 votes [19.05%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.05%

  4. C-Bills should not refund XP, only MC should (1 votes [4.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.76%

Should you use Mech XP to respec instead of C-Bills

  1. What part of "free" don't you understand? (10 votes [47.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 47.62%

  2. XP should be an option instead of C-Bills to make Mech XP worth something (7 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

  3. XP should be the only way to respec, C-Bills shouldn't be part of it (1 votes [4.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.76%

  4. PGI is right. You should get refunded the XP and then use the refund to respec (3 votes [14.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

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#1 Skribs

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Posted 11 February 2017 - 12:12 PM

Currently, it costs roughly 56,000 XP to master a Mech. It costs roughly 126,000 XP to elite 2 and master one, if you only care about the cost to get a specific Mech mastered.

In terms of C-Bills, the current equivalent is the price of modules. A full set of modules could cost anywhere from 10M C-Bills (if you have only 1 Mech Module slot and you get the cheapest modules) to 24M C-Bills (if you have 2 Mech Module slots and get the most expensive modules). In general, you're looking at probably an average of 15M per Mech that you fully module out.

The obvious caveat here is that you can swap modules in the current system, whereas you are locked in the new system.

The new system, as probably 99.99999% of the people reading this know, has removed the rule of 3. The currently proposed numbers are 136,500 XP and 9.1 million C-Bills to master each Mech (not variant, each specific Mech). That is cheaper per completed Mech, but more expensive if you are module swapping. It will then cost roughly 25,000 C-Bills or 10 MC to remove any points you wish to respec, and 100,000 C-Bills to re-apply the point, for 125,000 C-Bills per point you respec. A full respec would either be 11.4 million C-Bills or would be 910 MC and 9.1 million C-Bills.

This has obviously stirred up a lot of people, myself included. My question here is: what costs would you consider acceptable? This isn't the ideal (I bet 99.99% consider free to be the best option). It's what you consider fair, and what you would be willing to pay, keeping in mind what things cost now and what you think they should cost.

#2 Drebin Cormack

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Posted 11 February 2017 - 12:26 PM

The initial costs for mastering a mech are just fine. Reasonable even as there are no modules to buy. The fact that it costs anything to respec irritates me. No XP, no c-bills, nothing. Once I buy a module, do I have to pay to move it to another mech?

Edit: I saw this on another thread.
91 drops to skill up each mech, 120 mechs, 10,920 battles,10 mins per battle, 1,820 hours or over 75 days of 24 hr grinding...

Nice...

At my current rate of maybe 2 battles per day on average that's me finished skilling up in 15 years, assuming I never buy another mech ever again.

15 f*cking years!

I have changed my mind. What he says makes sense. The current mastering costs are too high. (assuming an average of 100k income per match)

Edited by Drebin Cormack, 11 February 2017 - 12:37 PM.


#3 pyrocomp

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Posted 11 February 2017 - 12:31 PM

The cost of "tech upgrades" (heck, those are not skills by any standart) should be above the average cost to outfit the mech. It is a next layer above it and should give less ruturns for the same costs. Some kind of upgrades balance seen in many games for decades (look at Starcraft 1 or Warcraft upgrades prices and thier returns).

#4 Kuaron

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Posted 11 February 2017 - 03:34 PM

Don’t make mastering chap overall. But make ‘basicing’ free in CBs! Let the last levels pay for the first ones.





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