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[Bishop Steiner]

as shown:

what the Special Resistance Head looks like:


In my mind, the lower head is more in tune with the descriptions of Grinner... what do you think?

(Mind you, it's entirely possible these things will change, etc, as with the depicted loadouts... they could be intending it and showing the wrong model, since Grinner doesn't look to have any unique geometry, at least at first glance)

What would you prefer?

[Alan Davion]

If I recall properly Bishop, and it's very likely I might be remembering wrong, Phelan's Wolfhound had the wolf teeth painted onto the head, not the chest.

Other than that I think they nailed the Kell Hound color scheme for this gorgeous mech.

Too bad it's as big a target as a dropship after that re-scale.

[Metus regem]

It really should use this head:

[Bishop Steiner]

Alan Davion, on 27 February 2017 - 03:03 PM, said:

If I recall properly Bishop, and it's very likely I might be remembering wrong, Phelan's Wolfhound had the wolf teeth painted onto the head, not the chest.

Other than that I think they nailed the Kell Hound color scheme for this gorgeous mech.

Too bad it's as big a target as a dropship after that re-scale.

you are correct, and the teeth were in metal strips to show up on magscan. still I can see where the detail may get lost on the head, so I can kind of overlook that... though I would prefer a true to lore scheme on the whole.

[Alan Davion]

Bishop Steiner, on 27 February 2017 - 03:19 PM, said:

you are correct, and the teeth were in metal strips to show up on magscan. still I can see where the detail may get lost on the head, so I can kind of overlook that... though I would prefer a true to lore scheme on the whole.

Now if they used the head of the version below they could probably model the teeth as added geo like the stuff on the Phoenix and Resistance mechs.

That would be flipping awesome.

Metus regem, on 27 February 2017 - 03:06 PM, said:

It really should use this head:

[MechaBattler]

Meh. Didn't much care for Phelan Kell or his mech.

[Bishop Steiner]

MechaBattler, on 27 February 2017 - 03:26 PM, said:

Meh. Didn't much care for Phelan Kell or his mech.

So..tbh, why bother posting, either way, then? I could see it if you did care, or if you were vehemently against.. but it seems...a little odd to post just to let us know you don't really care. Just saying.

[MechaBattler]

I don't have many friends that are BT fans. So I don't get to vent at my annoyance with him or Vlad or Victor...

[Carl Vickers]

Grinner really needs to have his clan tech to truly shine.

Myself, I prefer the actual wolf's head on the mech, that looks freakin awesome, head we have now looks like a football on top of a mech.

MechaBattler, on 27 February 2017 - 03:41 PM, said:

I don't have many friends that are BT fans. So I don't get to vent at my annoyance with him or Vlad or Victor...

Ahh, so you were just wanting some attention then.

[Clownwarlord]

I can agree the head doesn't look great but it still looks good. Good enough I want it.

[Alan Davion]

Carl Vickers, on 27 February 2017 - 03:43 PM, said:

Grinner really needs to have his clan tech to truly shine.

But then it wouldn't be an IS HERO. It would be a CLAN HERO.

[Carl Vickers]

Alan Davion, on 27 February 2017 - 04:03 PM, said:

But then it wouldn't be an IS HERO. It would be a CLAN HERO.

Bastardized lore does not make it right in this case.

[Alan Davion]

Carl Vickers, on 27 February 2017 - 04:06 PM, said:

Bastardized lore does not make it right in this case.

How is it bastardized? Please tell me. I would love to hear how you justify that statement.

Phelan used a bog standard IS Wolfhound before he was captured by Clan Wolf.

Khan Ulric Kerensky commissioned a complete one-off build for Phelan when he rose to Mechwarrior status.

A Wolfhound IIC if you will.

Completely.

Different.

Mechs.

Petition PGI for a Wolfhound IIC if you're so cheesed off about the Wolfhound Hero being IS.

[Bishop Steiner]

Alan Davion, on 27 February 2017 - 04:03 PM, said:

But then it wouldn't be an IS HERO. It would be a CLAN HERO.

but with it being his IS version, it should be Phelan KELL, not Ward as the Pilot.

[Carl Vickers]

Alan Davion, on 27 February 2017 - 05:48 PM, said:

How is it bastardized? Please tell me. I would love to hear how you justify that statement.

Phelan used a bog standard IS Wolfhound before he was captured by Clan Wolf.

Khan Ulric Kerensky commissioned a complete one-off build for Phelan when he rose to Mechwarrior status.

A Wolfhound IIC if you will.

Completely.

Different.

Mechs.

Petition PGI for a Wolfhound IIC if you're so cheesed off about the Wolfhound Hero being IS.

The original Grinner did not have ECM, nor did it have an ER-Large, just a large lazor. Im fine with PGI creating variants but dont try and pass it off as something it is not, thats the lorenard in me speaking.

[Alan Davion]

Carl Vickers, on 27 February 2017 - 05:54 PM, said:

The original Grinner did not have ECM, nor did it have an ER-Large, just a large lazor. Im fine with PGI creating variants but dont try and pass it off as something it is not, thats the lorenard in me speaking.

So why aren't you up in arms over mechs like the Pirate's Bane?
The Anansi?
The Ember?
The Oxide?
The Huginn?
The X-5?
The Arrow?
The Grid Iron?
The Loup de Guerre?
The Gray Death?
The Golden Boy?
The Quarantine?
The Fang and Flame?
The IV4?
The Jester?
The Firebrand?
The Black Widow?
The Protector?
The Dragon Slayer?
The Misery?
The Heavy Metal?
The La Malinche?
And finally the Boar's Head?

Literally all these heroes are works of fiction that should be offending your obviously twitching lore-sense. Especially seeing as the only actual canon hero mechs are the Commando Death's Knell, the Vindicator St. Ive's Blues, the Centurion Yen-Lo-Wang, the Griffin Sparky, the Cataphract Ilya Muromets, the Marauder Bounty Hunter, the Thunderbolt Tallman/Top Dog, the Awesome Pretty Baby and the Battlemaster Hellslinger.

That's 9 canon heroes vs 23 non-canon heroes

They had to make Grinner different because Phelan piloted a bog-standard WLF-1 before he was captured. The Grinner hero is basically a WLF-2 just with an added ECM. Would you rather they follow the canon instead?

Because if that's true you should be petitioning for the removal of all these non-canon heroes then.

You don't see me all up in arms over the Gray Death do you? Even though in the lore Grayson Carlyle piloted a bog-standard SHD-2H at first, before moving to a MAD-3R, and then eventualy a VTR-9K after the Clan invavion.

They have to make the Hero mechs DIFFERENT somehow. Or should we just force every mech in the game into locked stock configurations?

[Carl Vickers]

Alan Davion, on 27 February 2017 - 06:34 PM, said:

So why aren't you up in arms over mechs like the Pirate's Bane?
The Anansi?
The Ember?
The Oxide?
The Huginn?
The X-5?
The Arrow?
The Grid Iron?
The Loup de Guerre?
The Gray Death?
The Golden Boy?
The Quarantine?
The Fang and Flame?
The IV4?
The Jester?
The Firebrand?
The Black Widow?
The Protector?
The Dragon Slayer?
The Misery?
The Heavy Metal?
The La Malinche?
And finally the Boar's Head?

Literally all these heroes are works of fiction that should be offending your obviously twitching lore-sense. Especially seeing as the only actual canon hero mechs are the Commando Death's Knell, the Vindicator St. Ive's Blues, the Centurion Yen-Lo-Wang, the Griffin Sparky, the Cataphract Ilya Muromets, the Marauder Bounty Hunter, the Thunderbolt Tallman/Top Dog, the Awesome Pretty Baby and the Battlemaster Hellslinger.

That's 9 canon heroes vs 23 non-canon heroes

They had to make Grinner different because Phelan piloted a bog-standard WLF-1 before he was captured. The Grinner hero is basically a WLF-2 just with an added ECM. Would you rather they follow the canon instead?

Because if that's true you should be petitioning for the removal of all these non-canon heroes then.

You don't see me all up in arms over the Gray Death do you? Even though in the lore Grayson Carlyle piloted a bog-standard SHD-2H at first, before moving to a MAD-3R, and then eventualy a VTR-9K after the Clan invavion.

They have to make the Hero mechs DIFFERENT somehow. Or should we just force every mech in the game into locked stock configurations?

Triggered much.

[Alan Davion]

Carl Vickers, on 27 February 2017 - 06:42 PM, said:

Triggered much.

lol, you were the one that was triggered first, over something as silly as an ER large laser instead of a normal large laser, I was just taking your line of logic to it's logical conclusion.

Go back to my example of the Gray Death.

That's worlds apart different from what it should be, 4 medium lasers and an AC10, along with Endo chassis and DHS. The only parts that are correct are the LRM5 and SRM2.

If you're so up in arms over Grinner having an ERLL and ECM you should be losing your mind over the Gray Death.

Bishop Steiner, on 27 February 2017 - 05:52 PM, said:

but with it being his IS version, it should be Phelan KELL, not Ward as the Pilot.

So maybe someone in the office didn't know Phelan went by two names, or was just lazy about it? Either way it should be a simple fix for someone to tweet Russ or someone else at PGI and point out a minor mistake.

I seem to recall a couple times where the forums let PGI know they screwed up something on the store pages for some mech or other and they fixed it.

[RAM]

Alan Davion, on 27 February 2017 - 03:03 PM, said:

Other than that I think they nailed the Kell Hound color scheme for this gorgeous mech.

Great except that he is listed as Wolf Merc...


RAM
ELH

[Alan Davion]

RAM, on 27 February 2017 - 07:01 PM, said:

Great except that he is listed as Wolf Merc...


RAM
ELH

More evidence to support the fact that someone at PGI screwed up and the community needs to correct them.