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[Foxwalker]

Can anyone explain this mech to me? I just bought them and don't get the attraction some have for them. It is constant hard mode. I feel like I work so hard to do just mediocre. I can make a Commando do really well, but the Spider just seems one of the ultimate hard modes.

When playing other mechs, some players in Spiders can seem to do really well, but most of the time they are just the annoying last mech to chase around. What am I missing?

[Metus regem]

Foxwalker, on 27 February 2017 - 03:29 PM, said:

Can anyone explain this mech to me? I just bought them and don't get the attraction some have for them. It is constant hard mode. I feel like I work so hard to do just mediocre. I can make a Commando do really well, but the Spider just seems one of the ultimate hard modes.

When playing other mechs, some players in Spiders can seem to do really well, but most of the time they are just the annoying last mech to chase around. What am I missing?

In a word?

Practice.

Another way to look at it is some mechs work best with cretin people. I can make a Dragon an unholy terror in game, but I can't pilot a Storm Crow to save my life. So perhaps the Spider just isn't the right mech for you or your play style.

[Rakshasa]

The Spider is a BattleTech classic, so for some players it's probably nostalgia. With an XL engine it's also one of the most stupidly fast and agile 'Mechs in the game, so for others it's probably the lunatic fun factor. In terms of combat performance though...yeah, it's not the best. The Hero has a pair of AMS though, so it might sometimes make for a handy buddy for an Assault (though not as good as a KFX).

[Bud Crue]

Explain the mech? A Locust 1V that jumps.
Only what that frankly matters is the 5K. An LPL and if you can manage it some machine guns and you can be a nightmare to assaults and other slow movers.

The 5V used to be played for flying novelty but the loyalty Cicada and now the Viper have rendered even that ability blase.

The Anansi is one of the worst heroes (perhaps thee worst) in the game. The 5D has ECM but the quirks and hardpoints are so lacking that I just run it with a single ERPPC and shoot and scoot.

Other than that...I got no explanations for ya.

[Revis Volek]

I do just fine in mine....

They are not as tanky as Commandos but they have JJ;s and can be in and out in a flash. Longer range is kinda where its at with the SDR, single LPL on the 5K or 1 Er L 2 Meds on the 5D.

Other then that they are kinda meh, Dont but the hero if you think the cbills ones are tough to swing though. Its much, much worse.

Edited by Revis Volek, 27 February 2017 - 03:45 PM.

[Davegt27]

your in the wrong bucket

[TercieI]

Uh, which one? Two are crap, one is ok, one is good.

[The Amazing Spider Man]

OP is not missing anything, except maybe spidey sense. You should notice yours start to develop around a few hundred drops, give or take a few thousand.

Bud Crue, on 27 February 2017 - 03:44 PM, said:

The Anansi is one of the worst heroes (perhaps thee worst) in the game.

How dare you? Take it back! ;p

[Foxwalker]

I am not trying to malign it. I get some have amazing scores in them. Any other good tips for them are appreciated. Also, I would say the only reason to have the Locust 1V is to level the Locust 1E. I can do fairly well in that or even the Locust 3M.

Oh, sorry, if you bought the original pack the Locust 1V(P) came in, you are trying to convince yourself it is not bad. (Or you are just a bit of a crazy light pilot).

Edited by Foxwalker, 27 February 2017 - 04:05 PM.

[Bud Crue]

The Amazing Spider Man, on 27 February 2017 - 03:56 PM, said:

OP is not missing anything, except maybe spidey sense. You should notice yours start to develop around a few hundred drops, give or take a few thousand.



How dare you? Take it back! ;p

I cannot tell a lie. Seriously, give it 2 Missile hard points at the expense of the ballistics or energy and it would be great. Hell even give it the firepower of a Death's Knell 4E and I would not malign it so. But 1M, 2E and 2B is just bad on a 30 ton mech.

[Revis Volek]

Foxwalker, on 27 February 2017 - 03:57 PM, said:

I am not trying to malign it. I get some have amazing scores in them. Any other good tips for them are appreciated. Also, I would say the only reason to have the Locust 1V is to level the Locust 1E. I can do fairly well in that or even the Locust 3M.

Oh, sorry, if you bought the original pack the Locust 1V(P) came in, you are trying to convince yourself it is not bad. (Or you are just a bit of a crazy light pilot).

Then you sir are not using it right...

Use the quirks, its my best scoring lolcust by a long shot.

dat recycle rate is god like.

Edited by Revis Volek, 27 February 2017 - 04:19 PM.

[Willard Phule]

Dude. Hardmode?

It's probably the best assault in the game. It can take more damage than any other mech and keep moving....until it loses a leg, that is.

There's half a dozen theories as to why this happens, but my favorite one is that the hitboxes and their location are based on the potential of where it could be at any given moment. As long as it's got both legs, it can potentially move faster than the engine can render. After it loses one, it's max is 40kph and it's toast.

Play the ECM equipped one and run about shooting potatoes in the back. They're easy to spot. They stand in the open with the biggest LRM boat they can find. Then, they zoom in because...well, potato. Thing is, they can't unzoom. Their peripheral vision is limited. It's so easy to stay in their blind spot, you can do it with a Kit Fox.

Happy harvesting.

[Davegt27]

We need to ask for the 35 ton spider

[The Amazing Spider Man]

Bud Crue, on 27 February 2017 - 04:13 PM, said:

I cannot tell a lie. Seriously, give it 2 Missile hard points at the expense of the ballistics or energy and it would be great. Hell even give it the firepower of a Death's Knell 4E and I would not malign it so. But 1M, 2E and 2B is just bad on a 30 ton mech.

I think it's great as is. Not on paper mind you, but in execution it's fantastic. I had no issues mastering mine in 10 wins and 13 losses.

Davegt27, on 27 February 2017 - 06:09 PM, said:

We need to ask for the 35 ton spider

Only if it's the one with 6 mgs.

Willard Phule, on 27 February 2017 - 04:48 PM, said:

Dude. Hardmode?

It's probably the best assault in the game.

Is somebody confusing their low percentage queues?

[Mcgral18]

Davegt27, on 27 February 2017 - 06:09 PM, said:

We need to ask for the 35 ton spider

35 ton mech size isn't a very friendly size anymore

[FupDup]

The Spider always has been and always will be just a troll mech.

[TercieI]

FupDup, on 27 February 2017 - 07:49 PM, said:

The Spider always has been and always will be just a troll mech.

That's just not true. The 5K is used heavily in comp these days.

[Y E O N N E]

TercieI, on 27 February 2017 - 08:09 PM, said:

That's just not true. The 5K is used heavily in comp these days.

Watching how Lights are forced to play...their role in comp is basically "troll" anyway.

[MikeBend]

Anansi is ok with 2xERLL or 2xMPL, SRM4 and 2xMG. First one to distract enemies from flanks, second - to zoom through the brawl and shoot anything on the red team. Cant really say, that its the worst hero to my taste!

[Weeny Machine]

Davegt27, on 27 February 2017 - 06:09 PM, said:

We need to ask for the 35 ton spider

Cool. It would be as large as a Griffin then hahaha. You know, the glory of 35t sizing whoop, whoop



Here a pic of a 35t spider

Edited by Bush Hopper, 28 February 2017 - 03:45 AM.