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[Emeraudes]

Yeah I'd like the tree too if the consumables weren't 60k a pop

[Cyrilis]

I like it, and yes consumables are too expensive now.

Just imagine you go rampage and use 4 mechs with 6 consumables each in a FW match... this woud be burning through 1.44 million C-Bills in one match just by using consumables.

If consumables should be used more 40k needs to stay, I would even say the price needs to frop to 35k or even 30k

[Bellum Dominum]

Cyrilis, on 03 March 2017 - 01:25 AM, said:

I like it, and yes consumables are too expensive now.

Just imagine you go rampage and use 4 mechs with 6 consumables each in a FW match... this woud be burning through 1.44 million C-Bills in one match just by using consumables.

If consumables should be used more 40k needs to stay, I would even say the price needs to frop to 35k or even 30k

I tried imagining that and all I could 'see' was a terribly bad player that was on a team that was getting roflstomped.

[Kuaron]

Too many and too strong coolshot uses are bad for everything the game tried to achieve for months.

[Bud Crue]

Kuaron, on 03 March 2017 - 02:49 AM, said:

Too many and too strong coolshot uses are bad for everything the game tried to achieve for months.

So much this.

Consider also the following:

1st of the day bonus while running premium time. A single UAV and a single arty strike.
Do we really want to encourage this sort of thing further? Now double that. Triple it. Can't imagine that being good for balance or even basic game play.

[Bellum Dominum]

Budcrue now do the same with that same mech without 1st of the day bonus for both a win and a loss.

[Bud Crue]

Bellum Dominum, on 03 March 2017 - 03:48 AM, said:

Budcrue now do the same with that same mech without 1st of the day bonus for both a win and a loss.

Oh sure. My point is to show what's possible to abuse in the current system. Now just consider that potential abuse in the new system. Of course it won't be the norm, but it ispossible, and if so, there will be those a55hats tha abuse the hell out of it and make all of us suffer along.

[Bellum Dominum]

Bud Crue, on 03 March 2017 - 04:15 AM, said:

Oh sure. My point is to show what's possible to abuse in the current system. Now just consider that potential abuse in the new system. Of course it won't be the norm, but it ispossible, and if so, there will be those a55hats tha abuse the hell out of it and make all of us suffer along.

I think you are missing what I'm trying to point out. :: For one match you are able to do that and come out ahead which is a gamble because this is also dependent upon winning that 1st match of the day (simply being a gamble makes it a lot less abusive btw). Now if one really wanted to 'abuse' it they'd be doing it for multiple matches, heck even if you consider doing it in all your mechs as 1st match of the day you have that gamble for each and the law of averages is going to come into play. Which means there is just as much of a chance to waste a ton of cbills as there is to gain them.

My point is that while that one instance appears to show a chance for abuse any conclusion based upon a single match is at best an ill conceived conclusion.

Edited by Bellum Dominum, 03 March 2017 - 04:20 AM.

[Bud Crue]

Bellum Dominum, on 03 March 2017 - 04:20 AM, said:

I think you are missing what I'm trying to point out. :: For one match you are able to do that and come out ahead which is a gamble because this is also dependent upon winning that 1st match of the day (simply being a gamble makes it a lot less abusive btw). Now if one really wanted to 'abuse' it they'd be doing it for multiple matches, heck even if you consider doing it in all your mechs as 1st match of the day you have that gamble for each and the law of averages is going to come into play. Which means there is just as much of a chance to waste a ton of cbills as there is to gain them.

My point is that while that one instance appears to show a chance for abuse any conclusion based upon a single match is at best an ill conceived conclusion.

You right. No one around here would ever think of abusing the hell out of a single flawed aspect of the game. Not sure what I was thinking. My mistake.

[Alistair Winter]

I like it, but it's way too expensive. You can't really build a role around fire support and the auxiliary branch unless you've got a billion c-bills in the bank.

In 2012, PGI told us that role warfare would include a "commander role", and that those "commanders" would be able to drop airstrikes and artillery and such things. Well, even though you can potentially carry a lot of those consumables, it's going to set you back ~100,000 C-bills per match, or more. That's... ridiculous.

[Bellum Dominum]

Alistair Winter, on 03 March 2017 - 04:50 AM, said:

I like it, but it's way too expensive. You can't really build a role around fire support and the auxiliary branch unless you've got a billion c-bills in the bank.

In 2012, PGI told us that role warfare would include a "commander role", and that those "commanders" would be able to drop airstrikes and artillery and such things. Well, even though you can potentially carry a lot of those consumables, it's going to set you back ~100,000 C-bills per match, or more. That's... ridiculous.

It should set you back that. Heck have you priced artillery shells in the real world?

Bud Crue, on 03 March 2017 - 04:44 AM, said:

You right. No one around here would ever think of abusing the hell out of a single flawed aspect of the game. Not sure what I was thinking. My mistake.

Bud again you are COMPLETELY missing the point. I'm not even sure you actually read what I wrote or comprehended it anyways.

Let me expand. If I were to accept that your one pic is demonstrative of an easily abusive feature then the same could be said about my one pic of my Kitfox getting 3 kills with 9 assists and 977 damage. So why isn't everyone running a kitfox with 3xams (7k rds), 4xmgs (with 6k rounds), 2 sm pulse, and 1 flamer!?!

Edited by Bellum Dominum, 03 March 2017 - 05:12 AM.

[Bud Crue]

Bellum Dominum, on 03 March 2017 - 05:05 AM, said:

It should set you back that. Heck have you priced artillery shells in the real world?



Bud again you are COMPLETELY missing the point. I'm not even sure you actually read what I wrote or comprehended it anyways.

Let me expand. If I were to accept that your one pic is demonstrative of an easily abusive feature then the same could be said about my one pic of a Kitfox getting 3 kills with 9 assists and 977 damage. So why isn't everyone running a kitfox with 3xams (7k rds), 4xmgs (with 4k rounds), 2 sm pulse, and 1 flamer!?!

? I agreed with you. A one off instance of abuse is unlikely to be repeated by any one being rationale. Yes. I agree. What more do you want?

[Bellum Dominum]

Bud Crue, on 03 March 2017 - 05:09 AM, said:

? I agreed with you. A one off instance of abuse is unlikely to be repeated by any one being rationale. Yes. I agree. What more do you want?

Oh my bad man Seriously. Been dealing with what must be trolls on other threads and my patience wore thin. Too thin apparently. Please accept my apologies.