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[JC Daxion]

chucklesMuch, on 03 March 2017 - 09:24 PM, said:

Ah right. So you would have more choice/variety on offer but still just the two uses. I like that better than people being able to use up to six. (Unless costs come down further and it becomes a legitimate choice for everyone)

Yea pretty much, I don't like the idea of burning 6 consumables in a 5 min match either., that is why i think 2 with possible unlock 3rd use would be good.

Mcgral18, on 03 March 2017 - 10:34 PM, said:

Not quite

Right now, it's at best an 18 and a 6, with a 20% boost to both
28.8 heat removal, no cooldown

But, PTS is a pair of Coolshot 18s, with a 50% boost (down from 100%)
That's 54 heat removal, about twice of current (down from 72, WOW)
But, that is with a ~10 second cooldown (with a half wait node, IIRC)

ahh ok, thanks for the info I never really use um, outside of a couple mechs i had one in to burn 6's i got for free because i can't seem to get rid of um any other way.

[Carl Vickers]

1Grimbane, on 03 March 2017 - 03:17 PM, said:

Coming soon to a battle near you

W already had this in FP, it was called long tom and it didnt go so well.

[DAYLEET]

Monkey Lover, on 03 March 2017 - 03:05 PM, said:

Anything that breaks up the murder ball is fine with me.

It doesnt though. dual arty is just a win condition. Whoever has more win.

[Dee Eight]

The nodes can make the arty better, but to outright KILL a mech with them from fresh, you need it to be a light mech standing still...and you need to use BOTH of them. They're still far more useful being laid onto targets already stripped of armor because then the damage goes to the internal structure where it can amputate limbs.

[Stone Wall]

If your whole team has 2 arty/airstrikes and there is a 30 second global cool down, then that's 24 consumes/30 seconds = 1 going off roughly every 30 seconds during a 15 minute round.

[Mcgral18]

Stone Wall, on 05 March 2017 - 06:29 PM, said:

If your whole team has 2 arty/airstrikes and there is a 30 second global cool down, then that's 24 consumes/30 seconds = 1 going off roughly every 30 seconds during a 15 minute round.

10 second global cooldown, last I checked

[Stone Wall]

Mcgral18, on 05 March 2017 - 06:31 PM, said:

10 second global cooldown, last I checked

That's good to know. Kanajashi was talking about a cooldown being in the game all ready. Maybe global cooldown will be increased?

[Vellron2005]

Personally, dual arty/air strikes won't change the game so much, other than bankrupting players.. but double UAV's could be a game changer..

Also, dual cool shots... well that's something that should have been a thing from the get-go.. Cool shots should be a feature of every mech.. not a consumable..

[Cato Phoenix]

12 more strikes per side won't change the game?

How about 48 more strikes in FP?

[Danjo San]

Dethsphere, on 03 March 2017 - 02:50 PM, said:

So I built a laser build with stacked armor, and heat efficiency plus 5 consumable slots. 2 cool shot 18 an arty air and land plus a uav. Is this not consumable overload. Do they not remember the days of the arty's? When everyone took 2 arty's it was horrible.

[Bud Crue]

Good thing increasing TTK is not one of the goals of the PTS. UAVs for the LRMers, Cool shots for the laser boats, and arty for everyone.

Damage, Damage, Damage!

I need to spend more time playing with the auxiallry branch on the PTS. My Narc Raven is going to be epic.

[Almond Brown]

chucklesMuch, on 03 March 2017 - 03:45 PM, said:

But you can't double up on the same ones currently? So you can have a cool shot 6 and cool shot 9, the PTS (last night) was 2xcoolshot 18 & (2xart, 2xUAV)

And I'm not against more consumables - not at all... I'm against wealthy (in cbill or mc) players having an advantage over poorer players. Hence why I have been against 60K per consumble... not sure that 40K is sweet spot either. But at least I wont be taxed more for doing the same as I am currently.

So what should be done, based on your input, is if I join a QP Match and there is a newer player involved, everyone else should all get stripped of everything we have on our Mechs, that they can't afford that Match and then fight for the glory? Really!

You want the poor to have more C-Bills to burn, then get them play more Matches. Word is that is exactly how your supposed Rich/Advantaged players got theirs.

[chucklesMuch]

Almond Brown, on 07 March 2017 - 11:32 AM, said:

So what should be done, based on your input, is if I join a QP Match and there is a newer player involved, everyone else should all get stripped of everything we have on our Mechs, that they can't afford that Match and then fight for the glory? Really!

You want the poor to have more C-Bills to burn, then get them play more Matches. Word is that is exactly how your supposed Rich/Advantaged players got theirs.

Sure... maybe just leg a couple of your teammates and we'll call it even.


My "Accumulative C-Bills Per Match" is 176,561, is that the ave cbills per match to date? If so, on average, I would only be able to afford to use 3 consumables per game to basically stand still. Players that either though stockpile and or skill and or real monies and or some combo of these will have an advantage that other players wont realistically be able to afford without using real money.


This seems to me, to be moving mwo closer towards those wonderful golden bullets


I would love to know what the ave cbill/game/player was. As I would assume (taking into consideration Tarogato's previous reported stats on ave scores etc), that it is somewhat below 240K/match