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[Lionheart2012]

Hi team,

Here are some simpler solutions for the skill tree:

• Increase the values of the nodes (e.g. cool run from 2.0% to 2.5%)
  
• Create more connections between nodes (vertically and horizontally)
  
• Eliminate the parent-child relationship between nodes and allow us to ladder up the tree as well as down.

Reasoning and discussion in video. Please take a look.

[Cato Phoenix]

I'm in agreement with a lot of these points, but a couple housekeeping items first, because things are actually worse than you outlined:

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I'm not sure you calculated double basics - except for accel/decel?

Calculating the changes from base using your nodes:
Operations
-7% cool run - needing an extra 1 node to bring it to -5% cool run.
-3% containment - needing 2 extra nodes to bring it to 0% or equality (and adding 1 node of speed retention)

Mobility:
+1% anchor turn
-1% Torso yaw
-1% Torso twist
+8% Torso Pitch
+12% arm pitch
+15% Hard brake/Kinetic Burst

You also call 'cooldown' cooling efficiency at 11:15.

Gives you 14 points leftover for a mech nerfed in the 'good' areas of cool run (-5%), torso twist (-1%), and the areas where you end up with benefits (Accel/decel and 1% turn rate) are areas that have been nerfed thru quirks or by the total mobility changes.
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But you've hit on -exactly- why I dislike this new skill tree. To regain equivalency you are forced to use nearly all of your points - and you'll never get to equivalency with the paltry number left. You'll never make up the difference that 4-6 modules gave you.

The only choice is in how you hobble your own mech.

Edited by Cato Phoenix, 11 March 2017 - 07:07 PM.

[Lionheart2012]

You're right Cato. I neglected to account for the doubling of the basic efficiencies, which means our targets for the basic efficiencies should be

• Heat Dissipation +15%
  
• Acceleration +15%
  
• Twisting Arc +5%
  
• Heat Threshold +20%
  
• Deceleration +15%
  
• Twist Speed +5%
  
• Turning Speed +5%

And this means that the cool run and heat containment nodes should likely be increased in value to 5% per node and 7% per node respectively.