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[MW Waldorf Statler]

With this little little Center Torso ,Which Height has the new Cougar???a new Goliath Light with the Size and Hitzone of a Assault ?or is Annihilator and Cougar driven by little Protomech Pilots?

Edited by Old MW4 Ranger, 16 March 2017 - 03:27 AM.

[TercieI]

Given the way they do scaling now I expect it to be identically sized to the Adder.

[Mechteric]

TercieI, on 16 March 2017 - 04:01 AM, said:

Given the way they do scaling now I expect it to be identically sized to the Adder.

Pretty much this (and/or KitFox size target).

You really can't get anything of a sense of scale from artwork, so this thread is pretty pointless.

[MeiSooHaityu]

TercieI, on 16 March 2017 - 04:01 AM, said:

Given the way they do scaling now I expect it to be identically sized to the Adder.

I would too since a Cougar is essentially a modified Adder (or at least an Adder was used as the starting off point for the design).

"After the Refusal War with Clan Wolf, Falcon Khan Marthe Pryde decided to upgrade the 'Mechs her Clan fielded as they rebuilt. Rather than waste precious resources designing a new OmniMech from the ground up, she instructed her scientists to improve upon existing designs. The design the scientists chose to modify was the Adder." - Sarna.net

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 16 March 2017 - 05:30 AM.

[Natred]

Cougar looks like a mini stormcrow

[Snazzy Dragon]

I expect it to run ridiculously hot and be too slow to capitalize on its jumpjets and ECM capabilities.

[MW Waldorf Statler]

CapperDeluxe, on 16 March 2017 - 05:26 AM, said:

Pretty much this (and/or KitFox size target).

You really can't get anything of a sense of scale from artwork, so this thread is pretty pointless.

seeing the very very small Cockpit and center torso ...thats to small for a Pilot(by same Pilotsize in Cougar and Stormcrow))
or the great Cockpit of a
adder

Edited by Old MW4 Ranger, 16 March 2017 - 07:57 AM.

[Paigan]

CapperDeluxe, on 16 March 2017 - 05:26 AM, said:

Pretty much this (and/or KitFox size target).

You really can't get anything of a sense of scale from artwork, so this thread is pretty pointless.

Like for differentiation between "art stuff" and "real stuff" (real as in ingame real, not real real, of course, uh ... I mean really.)

Snazzy Dragon, on 16 March 2017 - 05:38 AM, said:

I expect it to run ridiculously hot and be too slow to capitalize on its jumpjets and ECM capabilities.

True for a fast hit and run light.
But there's also the niche of what I call "tiny assault": A light Mech that stays with the herd and gives ECM and additional firepower. For that, ~80 kph is perfectly fine. I play my Adder like this and it is almost "too fast" for the job.
The Kitfox is also a nice Mech for that job. Basically a walking ECM to pamper assaults and give a little support with any kind of long range weapon.
(and yes, I do have an LRM Kitfox . Assaults love me)

Why a light in the first place and not a real heavy hitter? For weight class (quick play) or tonnage (faction play) reasons, of course.

Edited by Paigan, 16 March 2017 - 08:00 AM.

[MW Waldorf Statler]

Paigan, on 16 March 2017 - 07:55 AM, said:

Like for differentiation between "art stuff" and "real stuff" (real as in ingame real, not real real, of course, uh ... I mean really.)

....yes ...seeing Direwolf in Artwork with fantastic proportions and Ingame with Boing Center Torso

hope ingame the Cougar Center is 70% Bigger as in Artwork

Edited by Old MW4 Ranger, 16 March 2017 - 08:00 AM.

[VanillaG]

My guess it will look like an Adder without the hoodie with scaled down Nova arms

[Vanguard319]

I think it will be slightly smaller than the Adder, on account of not having that large hood.

[El Bandito]

Snazzy Dragon, on 16 March 2017 - 05:38 AM, said:

I expect it to run ridiculously hot and be too slow to capitalize on its jumpjets and ECM capabilities.

It has plenty of pod space for DHS.

[razenWing]

Wasn't the default speed of Cougar in MW4 98 kph? How do they have the same weaponry but run only at 81 now?

[FupDup]

razenWing, on 16 March 2017 - 07:31 PM, said:

Wasn't the default speed of Cougar in MW4 98 kph? How do they have the same weaponry but run only at 81 now?

MW4 played around with the mechlab rules quite a bit.

[Kin3ticX]

Thats way too slow for a light mech.

Dumpster tier, I dont care how much podspace it has, you can damn near chase it down with a Night Gyr.

Simply a parade mech for the completionists.

[Tennex]

They really messed up the porportions IMO. the upper body should be much bigger.

[MW Waldorf Statler]

with 40% bigger CT

Edited by Old MW4 Ranger, 16 March 2017 - 09:13 PM.

[Y E O N N E]

Natred, on 16 March 2017 - 05:36 AM, said:

Cougar looks like a mini stormcrow

Clan 'Mechs are modular, IIRC, often reusing parts like legs on entirely different 'Mechs.

[Clanner Scum]

It'll be fine. Slow. With a hard punch. But fine.

[El Bandito]

I love my Lurmer Adder. Now I can do that with ECM. Maximum annoyance.