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[Makenzie71]

If your fresh locust gets taken down by a cored CT streak boat MAD IIC, and you claim said MAD player has no skill, what does that say about you?

[FupDup]

It says that some people get a strange, perverse pleasure from using autoaim weapons against the weakest mechs in the game.

[Makenzie71]

lol I'd post the video but that's probably be seen as "griefing" since his name is in the clip. He was capping on and I was the only one who could get back to defend. I prefer to go assault vs assault/heavy since I have the DPS to suppress them, but what am I suppose to do? Just not shoot him because he's a little guy? He could have even ran the other way and ditched me. How long does it take a locust to run out of streak range? Plus I had no cover/ecm...he say me coming from 500m away and decided to head/head me.

[Jackal Noble]

Well, considering that streaks require less skill, and ultimately are not as useful overall as srmA in different scenarios, he's not wrong. If your objective is to devote an entire weapon system that's really only good at spreading damage all over the place and hunting locusts in an 85 ton mech whilst enjoying longer cooldowns, then your ace. In the world of speed and ttk srm As win. Now if you were to compare standard srms and streaks , the streaks win out because everyone knows standard clan srms are garbage.

He was probably pissed because the few things a locust pilot fears are streaks. Must have been noob locust pilot.

*shivers at the thought of running into a good locust pilot - harbingers of death I tell ye.

[Jackal Noble]

Makenzie71, on 02 April 2017 - 06:04 PM, said:

He was capping on and I was the only one who could get back to defend.

Ah, you just happened to be the only one who could get back; either it was at the end of the game and no-one was left, or you're "one of those assault pilots that hangs in the back while you're team dies in front of you". which one ?

[Makenzie71]

Client crashed at drop (game seemed very stable for like months and then all of a sudden a couple weeks ago the game crashes at drop about 1/10 matches). By the time I got back everyone was engaged and mostly dead playing king of the mountain (HPG). I barely got inside the wall when the guy started capping.

It's very hard to hang back and do anything when you're predominantly a <500m mech.

[Makenzie71]

Still...if you think I must be a horrible player for loading up on streaks, what does it say for a locust player who intentionally tries to go point blank with me?

[Bishop Steiner]

JackalBeast, on 02 April 2017 - 06:14 PM, said:

Ah, you just happened to be the only one who could get back; either it was at the end of the game and no-one was left, or you're "one of those assault pilots that hangs in the back while you're team dies in front of you". which one ?

just wonder around Assault builds based around Streaks. I have a streakboat or two, well, semi streak, realyl, but nothing over 50 tons. Why would I gimp an Assault mech with SSRMs? Sure, skill investment is minimal...but overall, aside form Lights, so is their effectiveness... and a good set of aSRM6s is better Light medicine than Streaks, any day.

End of the day though... anyone whining about no skill weapons, etc? Honestly sound like they have self esteem issues. No skill is not the same as "good" or even particularly effective. The OP is right that the Locust could counter SSRMs in it's sleep. They really are not very good unless you catch them by surprise.

So... while I won't be congratulating the OP on his build or skill anytime soon, at least based off this instance... I must say IDC how twitchy skilled the LCT jock may be or think themselves... part of being "good" is being smart. And the Locust clearly failed at that. If he can't hit "R" and see the loadout and do the math... well...Darwin wins again.

That said... OP.. you might not want to get all self congratulatory... because it doesn't mean you were good... just that the LCT pilot was worse.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 02 April 2017 - 06:24 PM.

[Makenzie71]

I have a hard time convincing myself the MAD IIC is really an assault. The only reason streaks are effective at all is because it's fairly quick and nimble. Imagine trying to boat streaks with a direwolf.

[El Bandito]

Makenzie71, on 02 April 2017 - 06:30 PM, said:

I have a hard time convincing myself the MAD IIC is really an assault. The only reason streaks are effective at all is because it's fairly quick and nimble. Imagine trying to boat streaks with a direwolf.

At least Clan SSRMs have 360 meter range. IS got only 270 meters.

[Jackal Noble]

Ya, exactly . Ultimately run whatever tricks your trigger. I was just trying to touch on the comparative effectiveness of similar weapon systems in a bubble. Streaks can be situational as well, as you illustrated in the initial post. I mean there's a reason the streak dog is popular, right? I've just seen a lot assaults that are scared of their shadow as of late, no offense.

[Y E O N N E]

Makenzie71, on 02 April 2017 - 06:04 PM, said:

How long does it take a locust to run out of streak range?

Longer than it takes the streaks to arrive on-target, but with the caveat that it depends on how far away they were fired from. If you are firing near the edge, the Locust has a chance to get outside their range. Else, booped.

That said, if the Locust knew you were coming, he should have had you targeted and seen some Streaks on that 'Mech. No tears for that Locust pilot. The only time I call bollocks on Streaks is when I'm engaged and some jerkoff shows up suddenly and gets a free boop. It's not the same as getting caught by somebody having to actually aim the weapons because then there's still a real chance to evade or otherwise be missed, but SURPRISE! streaks are just...dull.

[Makenzie71]

Bishop Steiner, on 02 April 2017 - 06:22 PM, said:

just that the LCT pilot was worse.

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Edited by Makenzie71, 02 April 2017 - 08:18 PM.

[Alistair Winter]

FupDup, on 02 April 2017 - 06:00 PM, said:

It says that some people get a strange, perverse pleasure from using autoaim weapons against the weakest mechs in the game.

And start threads about "amusing things" just to add a couple of extra inches to that epeen. Maybe even post a screenshot or two, if they've got the house to themselves.

Good job, OP. Have you considered moving to Norway? We are one of only nine countries in the world that still practice commercial seal clubbing.

[Deathlike]

Alistair Winter, on 02 April 2017 - 08:54 PM, said:

And start threads about "amusing things" just to add a couple of extra inches to that epeen. Maybe even post a screenshot or two, if they've got the house to themselves.

Good job, OP. Have you considered moving to Norway? We are one of only nine countries in the world that still practice commercial seal clubbing.

Do I get a potato from/for this?

Edited by Deathlike, 02 April 2017 - 08:56 PM.

[Alistair Winter]

Deathlike, on 02 April 2017 - 08:56 PM, said:

Do I get a potato from/for this?

If you're running a Mad IIC with streaks?

You had a potato inside you all along, my dear.

[Makenzie71]

Alistair Winter, on 02 April 2017 - 08:54 PM, said:

And start threads about "amusing things" just to add a couple of extra inches to that epeen. Maybe even post a screenshot or two, if they've got the house to themselves.

Good job, OP. Have you considered moving to Norway? We are one of only nine countries in the world that still practice commercial seal clubbing.

I bet you're one of those guys who likes to walk his light up in front of a heavy/assault, sit still, and then whine when you get clobbered.

[Alistair Winter]

Makenzie71, on 02 April 2017 - 09:02 PM, said:

I bet you're one of those guys who likes to walk his light up in front of a heavy/assault, sit still, and then whine when you get clobbered.

How rude. No need to make it personal.

[PhoenixFire55]

Bads are gonna bad. Everything that kills them is no-skill-meta-cheese (provided they don't use it themselves), or omg-haxx-PGI-plzban (if they use same weapons but are still getting lol-ggrekt).

Without knowing the details of the match I could only say that getting any kind of steak boat on the enemy cap and forcing their lights to feed themselves onto said streak boat in order to stop the cap is a solid strategy. Of course as long as you can actually force lights to come back to it and not something like an Atlas instead ...

Edited by PhoenixFire55, 03 April 2017 - 12:44 AM.

[FireStoat]

If it's not the late evening NA time, I'll swap in Streaks for a few of my missile launchers on a given mech to deal with Locusts. If it is the late evening, I swap them back for standard A+SRM and move on. It just felt like common sense.