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[Gas Guzzler]

TheArisen, on 03 April 2017 - 02:10 PM, said:

Well it seems to me the Javelin was from the previous plan and so we've got April, May, June and even July that we can speculate on.

Not sure why, it was announced after their 6 month plan meeting, and Russ said we was still trying to figure out when he was going to announce it.

Look, Russ discussing a 6 month plan in January, means they are going to decide what mechs they are going to announce through June (they could have announced one mech at a time March through June but they decided to announce all 4 at once). June and on is up in the air, I can guarantee they didn't pick the June mech in January, and unless they have dramatically increased their mech development rate, we won't see announcements aside from the hero mechs in April/May. Instead of one mech a month we are getting 4 mechs every 4 months, or at least that is where it seems like they are going.

[Moonlight Grimoire]

Gas Guzzler, on 03 April 2017 - 02:18 PM, said:

Instead of one mech a month we are getting 4 mechs every 4 months, or at least that is where it seems like they are going.

If that is how they are going with development cycle eh, alright, that is not bad, easier to plan for and less drip drip, for draws out of the hat, if none of what you want, come back in 4 months. Less stringing a long. Though their Money to Cbill release path needs to be fixed, it is a derp at this point. I get like 1-2 months real money only, but, there is no issue having all four mechs hit cbills at the same time.

As for what next mechs. If we aren't going to have realistically another pack until 3 months from now it is up in the air if it would use CK or GG's poll if not both to draw from (likely both in some fashion). Part of me expects the new method might be a mech pack every 2 months with two different mechs (which would allow wasp/stinger combo to be done and since they are variants of one another with just some minor modeling differences they can make a bit more from that, hopefully). But, speculation on method and not the what.

[TheArisen]

Gas Guzzler, on 03 April 2017 - 02:18 PM, said:

Not sure why, it was announced after their 6 month plan meeting, and Russ said we was still trying to figure out when he was going to announce it.

Look, Russ discussing a 6 month plan in January, means they are going to decide what mechs they are going to announce through June (they could have announced one mech at a time March through June but they decided to announce all 4 at once). June and on is up in the air, I can guarantee they didn't pick the June mech in January, and unless they have dramatically increased their mech development rate, we won't see announcements aside from the hero mechs in April/May. Instead of one mech a month we are getting 4 mechs every 4 months, or at least that is where it seems like they are going.

Well Tina confirmed they plan mechs months in advance so that's not consistent with the Javelin being the first in the 6 month plan.

[Gas Guzzler]

TheArisen, on 03 April 2017 - 02:31 PM, said:

Well Tina confirmed they plan mechs months in advance so that's not consistent with the Javelin being the first in the 6 month plan.

You are taking quotes from 2 different people at 2 different times. One cannot derive a law from such instances.

Even if they didn't count the Javelin, 6 months from the Javelin announcement puts us at mid July, which is when we will likely get another chassis announcement. Or they will change their minds and release something earlier, its not like a few off hand quotes from Russ and Tina represent anything set in stone.

I am just not expecting some huge increase in mech development rate, as much as I would like it. Assuming its still one mech a month, I don't see any announcements coming until July-ish, for release 3-4 months after July.

[TheArisen]

Gas Guzzler, on 03 April 2017 - 02:38 PM, said:

You are taking quotes from 2 different people at 2 different times. One cannot derive a law from such instances.

Even if they didn't count the Javelin, 6 months from the Javelin announcement puts us at mid July, which is when we will likely get another chassis announcement. Or they will change their minds and release something earlier, its not like a few off hand quotes from Russ and Tina represent anything set in stone.

I am just not expecting some huge increase in mech development rate, as much as I would like it. Assuming its still one mech a month, I don't see any announcements coming until July-ish, for release 3-4 months after July.

Well the quotes are pretty specific but I don't disagree with your end statement. After all, that's what speculation is about.

[Valdarion Silarius]

All of this loopy speculation is honestly giving me a headache. If they are going with the 4 mechs in a 4 month time span then I would rather have the 1 mech a month type of deal. We can stop speculating if someone like Paul or Tina would come out on the forums and say "this is what we are doing with future mech packs and this is what our plans are set in stone."

[Gas Guzzler]

Arnold The Governator, on 03 April 2017 - 04:30 PM, said:

All of this loopy speculation is honestly giving me a headache. If they are going with the 4 mechs in a 4 month time span then I would rather have the 1 mech a month type of deal. We can stop speculating if someone like Paul or Tina would come out on the forums and say "this is what we are doing with future mech packs and this is what our plans are set in stone."

I got the impression they did that with the january roadmap, and they don't have a plan at this moment yet.

[Athom83]

TheArisen, on 03 April 2017 - 02:03 PM, said:

What exactly are you basing this list on? Some of these mechs aren't on polls or haven't done well or there's mechs that have placed higher.

The only one not on polls that I've seen was the Hellfire. This list was not based on the polls themselves, but what people are willing to spend actual money on for mechpacks. All the lights on my list are ones that are so beloved by a good chunk of the playerbase they'd pay money no mater how "good" it is, like the Urbie. The mediums are the same way, they're Iconic and they bring new things to the table (IS omni). The heavies is where the list divides from "iconic" reasons. The Avatar brings the first real IS Omni mech that can mount a variety of different loadouts to fit the pilot. The Thantos is for both "iconic" reasons and the Omni/firepower reasons. The Glass Spider is the Clan version of the Galahad, essentially a Rifleman IIC (the Glass Spider's loadout 2 is almost the exact same as the Rifleman IIC's base loadout). The Hellfire is to give the clans a non-omni heavy mech besides the Orion IIC (seeing as so many people keep complaining about how bad Omnis are, it would be a given that people would buy a new clan heavy mech that is non Omni with a good spread of hardpoints). And do I really need to explain that list of Assaults?

Edit; And the reason why some that ranked higher on the polls are missing from this list is simple. People wouldn't really spend money on them. While it could be argued that mechs that polled higher would be more likely to be bought. However, they would only be bought by the ones who specifically named them and Pokemech masters. They didn't bring anything new to the table or were iconic enough. The only reason the Templar made it on my list instead of the Nightstar is because the Templar is the only iconic Assault Omni and brings something new while the Nightstar is only another somewhat iconic 95 ton assault mech with a ballistic and energy mix.

Edited by Athom83, 03 April 2017 - 05:05 PM.

[Valdarion Silarius]

Athom83, on 03 April 2017 - 04:54 PM, said:

The Glass Spider is the Clan version of the Galahad, essentially a Rifleman IIC (the Glass Spider's loadout 2 is almost the exact same as the Rifleman IIC's base loadout).

Actually, the Glass Spider 2 has more energy hard points in the torso region, but the only resemblance I see is one large pulse laser in each arm. The Rifleman IIC Prime mounts 2 large pulse lasers in each arm and 1 er small laser in the head. However I don't see this mech triumphing over the RFL-IIC series anytime soon since it won't have jump jets and sufficient heat sinks to keep all those lasers cool. Maybe sacrificing a few weapons in place of heat sinks, and I'll admit the Galahad 2 will be essentially a faster Rifleman IIC without jump jets and .5 tons of less armor.

The only real gripe I have against the Galahad (glass spider) series is that it will be a mech subjected to PGI made up variants. The Rifleman IIC series would fit better with the new civil war tech since most of the canon variants already exist for the mech (using ATM's, Heavy Large Lasers, etc.) in comparison to the clan Galahad. And please for the love of God, let's not argue about the speed of each chassis since that will be decided by PGI's engine cap limitations (which most likely the RFL-IIC will get a high engine cap since we got one for the Annihilator.)

Edited by Arnold The Governator, 03 April 2017 - 05:27 PM.

[Athom83]

Arnold The Governator, on 03 April 2017 - 05:21 PM, said:

Actually, the Glass Spider 2 has more energy hard points in the torso region, but the only resemblance I see is one large pulse laser in each arm. The Rifleman IIC Prime mounts 2 large pulse lasers in each arm and 1 er small laser in the head. However I don't see this mech triumphing over the RFL-IIC series anytime soon since it won't have jump jets and sufficient heat sinks to keep all those lasers cool. Maybe sacrificing a few weapons in place of heat sinks, and I'll admit the Galahad 2 will be essentially a faster Rifleman IIC without jump jets and .5 tons of less armor.

The only real gripe I have against the Galahad (glass spider) series is that it will be a mech subjected to PGI made up variants. The Rifleman IIC series would fit better with the new civil war tech since most of the canon variants already exist for the mech (using ATM's, Heavy Large Lasers, etc.) in comparison to the clan Galahad. And please for the love of God, let's not argue about the speed of each chassis since that will be decided by PGI's engine cap limitations (which most likely the RFL-IIC will get a high engine cap since we got one for the Annihilator.)

Never mind the 5 ton difference, but anyway I agree. The reason I put "Glass Spiper/Galahad" was to kind of tease of a doublepack where the Clan and IS get their versions of the same mech at the same time. Who doesn't want a stock mech that comes with 2 gauss rifles with plenty of ammo? But you have to admit, they do look almost eidetic.
Rifleman IIC:


Glass Spider

[TheArisen]

Clan heroes just got announced. What do you guys think?
https://mwomercs.com...es-ii-preorder/

[Valdarion Silarius]

TheArisen, on 04 April 2017 - 04:44 PM, said:

Clan heroes just got announced. What do you guys think?
https://mwomercs.com...es-ii-preorder/

Not going to bother with them. Clan heroes should have been something offered with the original mechs that they were shipped with way back when they were announced IMO. If PGI came forward and used this as an excuse over a new mech/4 new mechs a month for more content and polishing to the game, then I would be perfectly content with that. However, my hunch is that they are being lazy. I'm not going to rebuy the same mechs with new color schemes that offer something slightly different to the game.

Edited by Arnold The Governator, 04 April 2017 - 05:36 PM.

[Y E O N N E]

Arnold The Governator, on 04 April 2017 - 05:31 PM, said:

Not going to bother with them. Clan heroes should have been something offered with the original mechs that they were shipped with way back then IMO.

The Invasion variants offer a C-bill boost, so at the time those were the equivalent to Hero 'Mechs. Obviously, there has been a lot of vocal demand for Clan Heroes, which is why we have them now.

Personally, I wish they'd add more variants for some of the existing 'Mechs. The Unseens kicked off the whole single 'Mech package scheme but they never got Reinforcements the way the subsequent offerings did.

[TheArisen]

Arnold The Governator, on 04 April 2017 - 05:31 PM, said:

Not going to bother with them. Clan heroes should have been something offered with the original mechs that they were shipped with way back when they were announced IMO. If PGI came forward and used this as an excuse over a new mech/4 new mechs a month for more content and polishing to the game, then I would be perfectly content with that. However, my hunch is that they are being lazy. I'm not going to rebuy the same mechs with new color schemes that offer something slightly different to the game.

Sorry I should of been clearer. I meant what do you think of PGI announcing the Wave 2 heroes now instead of at the end of the month. Will we see a new chassis announced in May and possibly July?

[FLG 01]

TheArisen, on 04 April 2017 - 09:20 PM, said:

Sorry I should of been clearer. I meant what do you think of PGI announcing the Wave 2 heroes now instead of at the end of the month. Will we see a new chassis announced in May and possibly July?

It is indeed true that the other heroes were announced at the end of the month. I am not sure it means we will have another announcement soon but it is possible. I would be surprised if there was no new chassis for August, even though there are four in July. There are still Mechs left that would sell extremely well and with MW:5 in sight, I think they are right to increase their Mech production...

However, I would be happy with reinforcements for classics, too.

Yeonne Greene, on 04 April 2017 - 05:38 PM, said:

Personally, I wish they'd add more variants for some of the existing 'Mechs. The Unseens kicked off the whole single 'Mech package scheme but they never got Reinforcements the way the subsequent offerings did.

Absolutely. I would definitely pay for a Marauder -9S. But it is not just the old Unseens I wish reinforcements for. The Phoenix Hawk -7S is a dream for me, a -3S just with actually useful hardpoints. And there other new variants on my wish list like the Bushwacker -L1 (AC/20 in the arm!), and many more.
If they are offered at a reasonable price, PGI could make some money. (However, in all fairness, that would start a P2W debate again).

[TheArisen]

FLG 01, on 05 April 2017 - 09:12 AM, said:

It is indeed true that the other heroes were announced at the end of the month. I am not sure it means we will have another announcement soon but it is possible. I would be surprised if there was no new chassis for August, even though there are four in July. There are still Mechs left that would sell extremely well and with MW:5 in sight, I think they are right to increase their Mech production...

However, I would be happy with reinforcements for classics, too.




Absolutely. I would definitely pay for a Marauder -9S. But it is not just the old Unseens I wish reinforcements for. The Phoenix Hawk -7S is a dream for me, a -3S just with actually useful hardpoints. And there other new variants on my wish list like the Bushwacker -L1 (AC/20 in the arm!), and many more.
If they are offered at a reasonable price, PGI could make some money. (However, in all fairness, that would start a P2W debate again).

Yeah I really liked it when they were making new variants. Like the Griffin 2N etc.

[Athom83]

TheArisen, on 05 April 2017 - 10:17 AM, said:

Yeah I really liked it when they were making new variants. Like the Griffin 2N etc.

I don't recall them saying they wouldn't be adding Civil War era variants for mechs that had them. All I know is they're having new mechs for the new era as pre-order.

[Valdarion Silarius]

TheArisen, on 04 April 2017 - 09:20 PM, said:

Sorry I should of been clearer. I meant what do you think of PGI announcing the Wave 2 heroes now instead of at the end of the month. Will we see a new chassis announced in May and possibly July?

I sure hope so. It sounded like they were going to focus on adding the remaining mechs that should have been in the game before their license expires. I still hope they focus on the 4 mech a month package if they were going to focus on heroes from here on out. I would be disappointed if they reverted back to only one new chassis release a month.

[Gas Guzzler]

Based on the roadmap, looks like no new chassis until July, so their 6-month plan is likely complete with the IIC heros that will probably be announced in May or June. I would imagine they will probably get started with concept arts soonish though.. maybe in May?