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[Catra Lanis]

Give it back its 20% AC20 range OR give it an extra energy hardoint in the torso to have something to do when you loose the AC20.

It is not like being able to lob a AC20 round 330 m. with full damage or having 15 damage with lasers are going to break the game.

[Dee Eight]

mogs01gt, on 05 April 2017 - 07:31 PM, said:

So your L2P lines simply BS. I blow you away in Cents. You suck and are nothing but a white knight that will never look beyond your own BS to realize that a lot of mechs need fixed in this game. YLW being one of them.

I'm not sure what universe you live in where you posted your stats on one variant only (the CN9-AH(L)), and bishop's stats on the same variant yield a W/L ratio 2 1/2 times better than yours and a K/D ratio 10% better than yours... as being you blowing him away on the mech or that he sucks. Especially taken along with the fact you don't know the timeline year at all, or that we do not have and will not be getting, mixed tech.

Catra Lanis, on 06 April 2017 - 01:26 AM, said:

Give it back its 20% AC20 range OR give it an extra energy hardoint in the torso to have something to do when you loose the AC20.

It is not like being able to lob a AC20 round 330 m. with full damage or having 15 damage with lasers are going to break the game.

Are the two energy mounts in the CT not enough ? I make do fine with a pair of medium pulse lasers to backup the AC/20 on my YLW.

[Catra Lanis]

Dee Eight, on 06 April 2017 - 01:30 AM, said:

I'm not sure what universe you live in where you posted your stats on one variant only (the CN9-AH(L)), and bishop's stats on the same variant yield a W/L ratio 2 1/2 times better than yours and a K/D ratio 10% better than yours... as being you blowing him away on the mech or that he sucks. Especially taken along with the fact you don't know the timeline year at all, or that we do not have and will not be getting, mixed tech.



Are the two energy mounts in the CT not enough ? I make do fine with a pair of medium pulse lasers to backup the AC/20 on my YLW.

I'd prefer ML, with the maps being the way they are every meter counts.

[Kaeb Odellas]

mogs01gt, on 05 April 2017 - 07:31 PM, said:

So your L2P lines simply BS. I blow you away in Cents.

[citation needed]

[Andi Nagasia]

ok where to start where to start,

first off the YLW has 4HardPoints,
which as PGI is looking on Normalizing some Mech HardPoint amounts,
it is very much possible that the Current YLW can get 1-2 more HardPoints,
(as all other CN9s have 6HardPoints im ganna say +2Energy(lore)

CapperDeluxe, on 05 April 2017 - 07:34 AM, said:

I too hope they'll add the 2 energy mounts in the left arm, like it gets in the lore after 3050ish

this, though i would rather they add these Energy HardPoints to the RT, to better Sword/Board,

that said Mixed Tech is very Much a Pipe dream at this point,
PGI has gone threw a good deal to ensure that Clan and IS tech are Different and Feel Different,
also true Mixed tech doesnt really come around until BattleTech DarkAges(3082)
we are far behind that in the CivilWar Era(3067ish) 15ish years before that,

as for its Viability, i just see mine as a HBK-4H that lost a good deal of weight,
play it with the same out load, 1AC20 2MPLs, so with that i think it preforms well,
also the Torso Twist Angle isnt that bad ether,

[Bishop Steiner]

mogs01gt, on 05 April 2017 - 07:31 PM, said:

So your L2P lines simply BS. I blow you away in Cents. You suck and are nothing but a white knight that will never look beyond your own BS to realize that a lot of mechs need fixed in this game. YLW being one of them.

******* away? LOL. Apparently L2Read also?

[Lorian Sunrider]

mogs01gt, on 05 April 2017 - 07:31 PM, said:

So your L2P lines simply BS. I blow you away in Cents. You suck and are nothing but a white knight that will never look beyond your own BS to realize that a lot of mechs need fixed in this game. YLW being one of them.

He's not white knighting. You just refuse to accept that other people like other things and can make them work. Two completely different things. Your insistence to show off your epeen and resort to insults shows that you don't have much an argument.

My Yen-Lo is one of my best performing mechs. I don't get insane damage in it, but I get more KMDD's because if you can aim well and have the modules for AC/20's you should be laughing.

Edited by Lorian Sunrider, 06 April 2017 - 08:59 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Dee Eight, on 06 April 2017 - 01:30 AM, said:

I'm not sure what universe you live in where you posted your stats on one variant only (the CN9-AH(L)), and bishop's stats on the same variant yield a W/L ratio 2 1/2 times better than yours and a K/D ratio 10% better than yours... as being you blowing him away on the mech or that he sucks. Especially taken along with the fact you don't know the timeline year at all, or that we do not have and will not be getting, mixed tech.



Are the two energy mounts in the CT not enough ? I make do fine with a pair of medium pulse lasers to backup the AC/20 on my YLW.

I suppose he feels more matches played in it is what makes his claim. Which is true of the AH, since it's reintroduction. If I add my archived, pre stats drops and alternate accounts, both of which have a few hundred CN9 drops? Well, then my quantity almost certainly crushes his... but I focused only on current since it's in this meta/environment) I prefer the D, as the stats pretty plainly show, because of it's speed allowing it to play a different role from my Hunchback, which is my preferred AC20 mech.

The lack of consistency in his arguments, and the constantly moving goalposts (single AC10 and 20 mechs suck, clearly shown to be crap not only by my stats, but even his own) basically says he's full of crap, been called out on it, and is desperately doubling down to "make a point".

Because so far his arguments are all...bad?

-Clan IIC Mechs should make YLW a Mixtech mech?
IIC Mechs are not Mixtech, and YLW is not a IIC, thus, a totally baseless starting argument.
-Timeline "has gotta be like, uh, 3080 or sumthin, right? It's jsut bullocks to hold my mech back!"
Official timeline is technically in a nebulous place between 3053 and 3060, to advance to the end of the FedCom Civil War this summer.
-Mechs with single AC10s and 20s are bad and can't keep up
Utter poppycock. So his own CN9-AH (despite whining about his YLW, which he oddly doesn't post his stats too) says that a bunch of crap, unless what...he's using a single AC5 on it or somthing? And my own stats, in CN9s and HBKs. Heck my clan acct with YLW is also sitting at 2.5 (since it was made before the Clan Mechs were released, I needed something to run, and still do on it).
-From the OP: " So what is the issue with giving people what they paid for?"
PGI gave us EXACTLY what we paid for. Stats were posted from the get go, and has been a known quantity since before Open Beta. If the OP for whatever reason assumed that "once clan tech like came around, I figured they were going to update it"..... as stated, well that is his own damn fault. PGI has never done so, never said they were going to, and nothing has ever remotely intimated such an occurrence was coming. YLW in the game as is, IS EXACTLY WHAT PEOPLE PAID FOR. And worse, the OP has been here more than long enough to know this, and is still pulling this stupid bullcrap entitlement whine, hence my lack of patience or manners toward him. Well, exacerbated by his continued whinging and ranting throughout this thread.
-Mechs with 300 meter or less armaments are griefers
WTF? So almost every stock light mech is a griefer mech.... and all the small laser Novas in comp play, etc. Pull your head out of your butt.
-Assassin is bad
Which is how someone like me, an admitted average player is still pulling over a 3 to 1 KDr with it.


I could go on, but the the way the OP has shat the sheets and discredited himself on all the above points, really, why would I need to?

Andi Nagasia, on 06 April 2017 - 08:18 AM, said:

ok where to start where to start,
this, though i would rather they add these Energy HardPoints to the RT, to better Sword/Board,

That would be bad, since there is literally no lore reason for it and as such YLW would just become another made up version.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 06 April 2017 - 02:27 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Catra Lanis, on 06 April 2017 - 01:38 AM, said:

I'd prefer ML, with the maps being the way they are every meter counts.

Definitely a matter of preference. The range is nice, but I seldom use it, especially since every tick of beam duration exposes your right arm and main gun that much longer. MPL do 20% more damage, in 33% less time, and as such do almost twice the damage per tick if one does have to interrupt their shot, (1dmg per 1/10th of a second for MPL vs .55dmg per tick for MLs), which is also (IMO) vastly preferable for taking advantage of the YLW's extremely high twist speed.

YLW works great, even if it's very basic. But that's part of it's identity. It's a Scalpel. Fast, agile, shields well and place pinpoint damage. It's lost some luster, like a lot of mechs have since Clan Invasion, Quirks and such all have lowered TTK so dramatically, but it's still waht we paid for, and still quite effective.

[Dee Eight]

Because of this thread, lastnight I bought an AH and AL centurion to add to my other four.

[Andi Nagasia]

Bishop Steiner, on 06 April 2017 - 09:06 AM, said:

That would be bad, since there is literally no lore reason for it and as such YLW would just become another made up version.

i dont think so, remember hard Point inflation is something all BattleMechs Get,
the YLW has 4hard Points 2B 2E, thats 2 Less than every other CN9, adding 1-2 i dont think would be too bad,
perhaps a single E in the Head to make it stand out, better quirks could help as well,

[Bishop Steiner]

Andi Nagasia, on 06 April 2017 - 02:48 PM, said:

i dont think so, remember hard Point inflation is something all BattleMechs Get,
the YLW has 4hard Points 2B 2E, thats 2 Less than every other CN9, adding 1-2 i dont think would be too bad,
perhaps a single E in the Head to make it stand out, better quirks could help as well,

except hardpoints are never added to locations that don't HAVE weapons to begin with. There is no head or RT weapons on the YLW in ANY form. This opens up a terrible precedent to just slap on hardpoint any damn place on any damn mech, and as such, is BAD.

[Revis Volek]

mogs01gt, on 05 April 2017 - 12:48 PM, said:

Could you white knight any harder? Assassins suck and anything with an effective range under 300m are grievers.

LOL

[Tincan Nightmare]

I actually wouldn't mind a Kai clan invasion version of the YLW. I know we wouldn't get TSM, but it would be fun to make a build with long range ballistics in the right arm and some PPC or LPL in the left for a fast sniper/striker type mech. Yah there are lots of other options for this right now in the IS medium mech field, but it would be fun to have more of a playstyle with YLW than just AC20 and 2 ML's or MPL's. Oh well, soon we can go RAC5 and ERML I guess.

[mouser42]

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Yen-Lo-Wang

ever thing you wanted to know about the Yen-Lo-Wang with out reading the books

[Andi Nagasia]

Bishop Steiner, on 06 April 2017 - 03:12 PM, said:

except hardpoints are never added to locations that don't HAVE weapons to begin with. There is no head or RT weapons on the YLW in ANY form. This opens up a terrible precedent to just slap on hardpoint any damn place on any damn mech, and as such, is BAD.

i see, perhaps then give it hard point inflation into its Ballistic arm?
give it +4B hardpoints into that arm(6Ballistic Total) it would give it something no other CN9 has,
and would also allow it to run 6MG/6HMGs when CivilWar Patch Drops, your thoughts?

[Y E O N N E]

Andi Nagasia, on 06 April 2017 - 07:40 PM, said:

i see, perhaps then give it hard point inflation into its Ballistic arm?
give it +4B hardpoints into that arm(6Ballistic Total) it would give it something no other CN9 has,
and would also allow it to run 6MG/6HMGs when CivilWar Patch Drops, your thoughts?

Too much face-time, so not all that useful to the YLW. Maybe if we had Light ACs it might get used at least at 540 meters with 4xLAC/2, but that's still pretty weaksauce.

[Bishop Steiner]

Andi Nagasia, on 06 April 2017 - 07:40 PM, said:

i see, perhaps then give it hard point inflation into its Ballistic arm?
give it +4B hardpoints into that arm(6Ballistic Total) it would give it something no other CN9 has,
and would also allow it to run 6MG/6HMGs when CivilWar Patch Drops, your thoughts?

So the answer is to go hardpoints crazy?

[Mystere]

Yeonne Greene, on 05 April 2017 - 01:38 PM, said:

Thus thread is diseased.

Pls kil

I'd love to grant your request by pressing the appropriate button.

But, I've been too much of a bad kitty already today and was even rewarded for it.

[Khobai]

Yen Lo Wang should be first melee mech

Only mechs that have melee weapons stock should be able to use melee weapons though

It would be too hard to rerig all the animations for every mech to use melee weapons