55 replies to this topic

[Deathlike]

Forgetting about the W-L, the K-D ratio is probably respectable. Considering that the basis of being "not terrible" is to be "average" in at least taking down your opponent as they take you down... that's where that guy should expect to be.

The minor details aside, the best solution is to play with a unit/clan. That person don't have to join them as the opportunity to hop around and find out what works and doesn't work for themselves. By learning more specific mechanics and behavior in MWO, it will start to become easier to play the game. It would simply take much longer to learn it by himself... because the struggle is real.

It's the reality of what lacking a good NPE brings to the table. Sorry that your friend is facing this reality. Groups are what allow a player to get towards his potential. If there was a better way to give "all the tips", it wouldn't be that large a learning curve... once someone gets over that hump... everything becomes that much more easy.

[Mister Blastman]

Nah. Tell him he's a bad so he leaves and stops screwing up the queue.

k thx.

Bai.

[Davegt27]

I died over 1300 times in my Jagger DD
That means I died more times in that Mech then I made drops in any single Mech I own

So picking the right Mech from the start is a good idea

[Ted Wayz]

Bandilly, on 05 April 2017 - 09:38 AM, said:

25 matches is hardly a good sample size. Heck I've had losing streaks around 18 matches long and yet after 3300 matches I have a near 50/50 record.

Let MM do its thing and lost 27 in a row. Usually after a few I log off then back on to reset but sometimes just let it ride.

Funny though, don't think I have ever been on a double digit win streak.

Mister Blastman, on 05 April 2017 - 04:23 PM, said:

Nah. Tell him he's a bad so he leaves and stops screwing up the queue.

k thx.

Bai.

Uh....

You realize that you want players like this around, right?

Or was the whole point of the response to post the gif?

[Positive Mental Attitude]

Tell him to stay gone before he waste a bunch of time and money. Problem solved.

Edited by Redjack d3, 05 April 2017 - 04:44 PM.

[El Bandito]

As a guy who only managed to get his WLR above 1.0 after a whole year, I laugh at his weak will.

[Bishop Steiner]

Deathlike, on 05 April 2017 - 04:21 PM, said:

Forgetting about the W-L, the K-D ratio is probably respectable. Considering that the basis of being "not terrible" is to be "average" in at least taking down your opponent as they take you down... that's where that guy should expect to be.

The minor details aside, the best solution is to play with a unit/clan. That person don't have to join them as the opportunity to hop around and find out what works and doesn't work for themselves. By learning more specific mechanics and behavior in MWO, it will start to become easier to play the game. It would simply take much longer to learn it by himself... because the struggle is real.

It's the reality of what lacking a good NPE brings to the table. Sorry that your friend is facing this reality. Groups are what allow a player to get towards his potential. If there was a better way to give "all the tips", it wouldn't be that large a learning curve... once someone gets over that hump... everything becomes that much more easy.

hell, pretty willing to bet most non comp tier level twitch players would be doing well to break even on KDr after their first 25 matches.

[Deathlike]

El Bandito, on 05 April 2017 - 05:22 PM, said:

As a guy who only managed to get his WLR above 1.0 after a whole year, I laugh at his weak will.

To be honest, it is a depressing record when you start the game in the first place, but that's a realistic expectation though.

This is the literal filter that exists in this game that is the biggest retention issue for this game (outside of PGI's bad decisions) for the average new player. Whether you agree with it or not, this is nominally why the playerbase's overall skill level decreases over time. We may get enough curious people to stick around enough, but that also comes with people leaving the game due to being a lot of the same with little to no progress on any useful/practical front. It is a revolving door at the very least, and it is tough to sustain a business through this method.

[SeventhSL]

Have you tried giving your mate a cup of concrete?

[Mister Blastman]

Ted Wayz, on 05 April 2017 - 04:43 PM, said:

Let MM do its thing and lost 27 in a row. Usually after a few I log off then back on to reset but sometimes just let it ride.

Funny though, don't think I have ever been on a double digit win streak.


Uh....

You realize that you want players like this around, right?

Or was the whole point of the response to post the gif?

Well, to quote one of my favorite cinema lines of all time...

[Karl Marlow]

Losing streaks happen. When I get in a rut I usually call it an evening and do something else the rest of the night.

The best thing you can do if he comes back is get involved with a group. Solo play sucks especially when you are new. Surround him with experienced players who are happy to answer questions and pick up some of the slack while he gets his footing. You don't have to join a unit but just hop on some country TS servers. Some are happy to have a new face to drop with. Shop around and find groups you like.

[Anjian]

To be honest I feel like I am struggling myself, barely above average now. In the old days I have a losing W/L but a more positive KDR.

I can't maintain some form of consistency. There are few good games, and many bad games.

If I can't git gud sooner or later, I may make a call and focus on the games where I am good at.

Furthermore the game strains my eyes. I can't see crap, have to often resort to night vision and thermal. It also strains my computer in a way no other game I got installed can.

[KingCobra]

Well OP it is to bad your friend quit I have been here since day 1 and its been a long road good times and bad times the game was very fun back before closed beta players win or lose had fun now its just another failing FPS with a grind that's not so fun .

I could tell you of 10,000+ fun battles in MechWarrio2-MechWarrior4Mercinaries where your mech was a real tough robot stomping into battles knowing it was skill and luck that got you kills a few a battle.

But not MWO your poor friend goes right into the meat grinder mill and probably got killed in just a few shots from mass focused fire and not having much training.

For new players MWO is a terrible game there is not a huge social lobby for new players to find free private matches and good players to learn the ropes from. The mechs now are so overpowered weapons wise you might as well just have 0 armor and stack on as many OP weapons as you can an just mass rush and try to get kills and a win.

MWO has finally turned into WOT or Planitside2 just another fast and furious FPS. having lost all the good things from past Battletech and MechWarrior games.

HAIL the new MWO=MeatWarriorOnline even MechAssualt or MechAssault2 were more fun games overall.

Edited by KingCobra, 05 April 2017 - 07:35 PM.

[James Argent]

There's something to be said for playing in a group instead of solo queueing, but be careful not to drag a new player into no-matchmaker play too early, or at least encourage them to get in some solo time as well.

As for the learning curve...yeah, it's steep, but it could be worse. It could be EvE Online.

[Paigan]

MECH Slayer, on 05 April 2017 - 09:28 AM, said:

I invited one of my friends to the MWO recently, and today he will quit, telling me he always on the losing side after first 25 matches. Then I have logged in with his account and got this.

How can I persuade him to stay in MWO world? Could you guys give me some advice? Thank you.

If your friend has such a low patience, you won't be able to keep him in the game.
Or in any other game that is not literally childs play.

I played MW titles before, I played shooters for decades, but my goal in the first few MWO match was:
Deal 20 damage before dying.
Yes, it was that bad.
Then 100 damage.
Then make a kill.
Then maybe even survive the match (woohoo).
It took at least 100 matches to see any kind of light at the end of the tunnel.
And 1000 matches to get along "okay".

Throwing in the sponge after 25 matches means that friend is not (pardon me) mature enough to endure any kind of learning curve that is not tailored for children.

[Paigan]

James Argent, on 05 April 2017 - 10:13 PM, said:

[...]
As for the learning curve...yeah, it's steep, but it could be worse. It could be EvE Online.

Like for mentioning the simultaneously best AND worst MMOG ever made!

[Shifty McSwift]

Davegt27, on 05 April 2017 - 04:24 PM, said:

I died over 1300 times in my Jagger DD
That means I died more times in that Mech then I made drops in any single Mech I own

So picking the right Mech from the start is a good idea

Yeah OP tell him it gets easier over time, particularly after one learns the meta.

My score is pretty terrible due to my starting mech choices (IS jenner and Jagermech), my PC isn't good enough to play high speed lights to full effectiveness and Jagermechs were quite papery when I was using them (resulting in a whole lotta bad deaths and lost games). Once I farmed out enough to buy some tougher and higher damage mechs I had a lot more fun and a lot more wins.

I am still catching up on my K/D ratio but my personal wins score has shifted vastly from about 3 out of 4 games lost to better than 50/50.

Edited by Shifty McSwift, 05 April 2017 - 11:54 PM.

[Johnny Z]

Tell your friend he is being trolled because he is new and that could explain the loss streak. The trolls try and get players to quit as standard procedure.

I have good stats and amazing stats if I didn't face so much trolling from synch droppers on team speak., not to mention everyone with a hack starts them up for me if given a chance. :")

Also like has already been said this game takes quit a bit of practice to even do ok at.

Of course this reply will most like be trolled by the trolls like any that actually get to the heart of the matter.
Knowing your being trolled doesn't help much but it does help.

Good luck to your friend this is a good game and looks like it will continue to improve so its well worth playing.
Playing during peak hours when focusing is more difficult to do, that's the best advice, the trolls are always focusing someone......

Edited by Johnny Z, 06 April 2017 - 12:38 AM.

[kesmai]

By logging into his account you broke CoC and TOS rules.
Sharing accounts and even the login information may lead to a complete ban.

I hope PGI doesn't read the forums, or your topic at least.




Kek

[Clownwarlord]

Blame tier 1 torlls who use alt accounts to farm tier 5s.