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[BloodKnight101]

Hey guys I thought it would be fun to speculate on some updated loadouts that might come with the Civil War update in July. There is going to be a bunch more cool stuff getting put in and I think it will breath a bunch of new life into IS mechs, which imo have been boring since I started playing in Nov. 2016.

Personally my two fav IS mechs right now are my LB10 and 4xSRM4 BSW-S2 and my Twin LB10 MAD-3R.

I have been on Sarna for a while, did some maths, and thought that a cool update to the 3R would be to swap the LB10s for 2 RAC/5s, the 4xML for 2x Light PPCs, 5 tons of ammo for the RACs. Or I could run 3xRAC2s, 2x Snub-nose ppc, 3.5 tons of ammo, and LFE 300.

What do you think, do you have any ideas that you have been kicking around in your head for other mechs or the 3R?

CHEERS!

Edited by BloodKnight101, 08 April 2017 - 10:52 AM.

[Metus regem]

I know that my WHM-6R is going to run:

2x HPPC
280 LFE
Endo
4x ERSL
1x ASRM4 w/ 2t ammo
2x HMG w/ 1t ammo

The rest of the space will be stuffed with DHS.

[Mcgral18]

Your Marauder can't take 2 RAC5s and a LFE
They're 6 slots apiece, same as the LB10x (but 1 ton lighter)



I'll try a Tri-RAC5 DakkaMets
Whether to LFE (5 tons) or XL (9 tons) ...well, probably XL. He needs that ammo
Or swap one for a RAC2, gain 2 tons.

[Ghostrider0067]

All I can say is that my three 'phracts are going to have a lot of tweaking done to make them even more dangerous than they are now.

[Chaotic_Harmony]

MRM 80 IV-4 Quickdraw.

Yeah, I'm horrible.

[BloodKnight101]

You are right I don't know how I forgot that when I was writing. I modified it triple RAC2s (9 slots/24 tons), LFE-300(18.75 tons), 2 snub-nose ppcs (12 tons), 3.5 tons of ammo

Edited by BloodKnight101, 08 April 2017 - 10:52 AM.

[El Bandito]

Heavy lasers on my MAD-IIC, Ebon Jaguar, Hellbringer, and HBK-IIC-A. I like to win trades. Heck, HSL on my Arctic Cheetah so I can core out backs even easier. Dunno about the GH value of heavy lasers so I cannot comment on the exact loadout.

Edited by El Bandito, 08 April 2017 - 05:17 PM.

[dario03]

I would like to but...... No details on how everything is going to work makes it a bit difficult. Sure we know weights and slots but what about ghost heat limits? gauss charge limits? gauss charge up times? MWO damage and heat? LFE side loss penalty?

Heck I can't even decide if I want a Annihilator because the main builds I've been thinking of were going to be light and heavy gauss based.

[Snazzy Dragon]

I'm going to try 6 heavy machine guns on a sad cat, and probably be disappointed

Then I'll put two heavy large lasers on that sad cat instead. Gains a lot of DHS over the 2 LPL build

I'm going to experiment with LFE and the king crab-- XL was always too risky, STD just blows because it's so damn heavy

RAC mauler is compulsory. All the dakka!

Of course, every IS mech will have their medium lasers swapped for ER medium lasers where appropriate, unless the heat is too intensive for the number of DHS an IS laser vomit mech typically carries

I'm eager to experiment with ATMs on the clan side, and heavy lasers in general on mechs with lower hardpoint counts-- but their use and effectiveness all hinges on implementation and stats

[Felicitatem Parco]

I'll put more hours into my Dual PPC light Mechs by using SnubNoses and more DHS...

[Templar Dane]

Phract 3D with dual RAC5s or UAC10s
Phract 0XP with UAC20 and stealth armor
Atlases with UAC20 and LFE for bigger engine where possible(down with engine caps!)
Shadowhawk 5M with LFE and dual UAC5 should turn into a massive engine boost
Ballistic MADs with LFE, especially bounty hunter with LFE + UAC20
Thunderbolts with MPL and MRM
Hunchbacks. MRMs for the 4SP and LFE + UAC20 for the ballistic variants
Centurions. MRMs might be fun. UAC10 should slot in nicely in many of my builds
Uziel hero near stock looks like my kind of mech

I really hope RACs sound cool because I'm gonna be blowing my load all over the place. The new UACs and RACs are at the top of my list, I just wish light autocannons were in because some of the lighter mechs in MWO scream for them.

LFEs are a big deal, despite the naysayers. Slotting into a torso with a UAC20 or 2x UAC5 is a big deal for a lot of my favorite mechs that have to settle for a standard engine because an isXL doesn't fit. SHD-5M is my favorite shadowhawk and I'll be able to go from a 255 engine to a 295 or bring more ammo or a mix of both more ammo and a bigger engine. Just about anything that uses a standard engine now can bring a bigger engine.........it's one of the reasons some of the older mechs need higher engine caps. Also, the extra tonnage allows for targeting computers.

With the light/heavy PPCs and gauss, I'd like to see projectile speeds before I get excited about those. I'm hoping for wicked fast projectile speed on light PPCs. I'm gonna guess that heavy versions are slower and light is faster, but I'm hoping for faster than ERPPC speeds on light....like say old PPC velocity. My spiders are hungry for light PPCs.

[Y E O N N E]

Marauder 5M
- 325 LFE
- EndoSteel
- 15x Double Heatsinks
- 3x Jump Jet
- 1x UAC/20 + 4t ammo
- 5x ER Medium Lasers

Should be good for a 65 point double tap, will be pretty durable too. Might be a bit hot, but we'll see how badly PGI mangles the isERML.

Marauder 5D
- 325 LFE
- EndoSteel
- Light Ferro Fibrous
- 16x Double Heatsinks
- 3x Jump Jets
- 2x Snub-nose PPC
- 3x ER Small Laser
- 2x SRM4+Artemis IV + 3t ammo

Splat poptart; I already do something similar using a PPC with ASRM6 and 4x MedPulse on an XL350, but the addition of the SN-PPC makes this a lot easier because the ER PPC is too hot to run two with the missiles. The Snub won't have that issue. This will more than likely get refined down to 2x SN-PPC + 2x SRM6A and it may return to an XL engine to get more DHS and bigger backup lasers in, but this is my jumping-off point.

Blackjack 1X
- 280 LFE
- EndoSteel
- Light Ferro Fibrous
- 17x Double Heatsinks
- 8x ER Medium Laser

Again, pending ERML implementation, the amount of face starting you do might actually make the LFE not worth it and instead encourage the use of an XL.

Blackjack 3
- 225 LFE
- EndoSteel
- 15x Double Heatsinks
- 4x Jump Jets
- 1x Heavy PPC
- 1x Light PPC

Light PPC and Heavy PPC do 5 and 15 damage, respectively, with the same range, min-range, etc. It's basically just a more tonnage-efficient version of 2x PPC; the slot usage is the same for the weapons.

Edited by Yeonne Greene, 08 April 2017 - 08:08 PM.

[Mcgral18]

Templar Dane, on 08 April 2017 - 07:23 PM, said:

With the light/heavy PPCs and gauss, I'd like to see projectile speeds before I get excited about those. I'm hoping for wicked fast projectile speed on light PPCs. I'm gonna guess that heavy versions are slower and light is faster, but I'm hoping for faster than ERPPC speeds on light....like say old PPC velocity. My spiders are hungry for light PPCs.

Very unlikely
They're (essentially) outright superior to normal PPCs, so you'd expect the same, or less, velocity
It's -1 ton, +1 Crit for the same 10 PP FLD

[Jingseng]

climbing mt. disappointment to go base jumping... you'll reach the summit only to remember you forgot your chute.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Jingseng, on 08 April 2017 - 08:18 PM, said:

climbing mt. disappointment to go base jumping... you'll reach the summit only to remember you forgot your chute.

you had to be that one guy

[Mcgral18]

Scorch

2ATM9
2ATM6
AP
8 tons of ammo
2HLL
18 DHS
XL350


I wonder how 30 tubes of ATMs will work.

I could also go 4xATM12
8 tons of ammo
HLL
AP
Light TAG (to break ECM, and faster locks)
12 DHS

That...would probably be toasty
Maybe drop some of the items for MOAR AMMO

[Khobai]

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Very unlikely
They're (essentially) outright superior to normal PPCs, so you'd expect the same, or less, velocity
It's -1 ton, +1 Crit for the same 10 PP FLD

Except it cant be outright superior to normal PPCs if you want normal PPCs to still be useful.

That means heavy PPCs will have to come with another balancing factor besides tonnage; probably a slower cooldown

Conversely that means light PPCs will probably have a faster cooldown.

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I wonder how 30 tubes of ATMs will work.

I assume not too well since ATMs are likely to suck.

Theyre going to have to be worse than SRMs and Streaks at short range to justify SRMs and Streaks still existing. And theyre also going to have to be worse than LRMs at long range to justify LRMs still existing.

So basically ATMs are going to be like combining an SSRM/LRM into one weapon, thats worse than taking both seperately, but still weighs less than taking both seperately.

Youre basically trading specialization for versatility, and that generally doesnt work out too well in MWO.

Edited by Khobai, 08 April 2017 - 08:33 PM.

[FLG 01]

Bushwacker with LFE, UAC/10, SNPPC, and perhaps some RL. It may sound a bit pedestrian, but seeing how much fun I have with AC/10 and LPL right now, this upgrade would be more than welcome.

Of course, I will try the usual 'add RACs whereever possible'-approach, my Marauder will experiment with the new PPCs a lot, and I need that hilarious 4x MRM20 plus 5x RL15 Archer (i.e. 155 DMG alpha strike).

Oh, there are so many possibilities. They may turn out to be bad, but I cannot wait to try.

[Y E O N N E]

Oh yeah, I forgot about MRMs. Might actually swap out the SRM4+Artemis on that MAD-5D for a pair of MRM/10 instead.

[Khobai]

I hope MRMs dont replace SRMs.

Maybe its time to make SRMs fire both dumbfire and guided like theyre supposed to be.

But even guided SRM+Artemis should still have worse guidance than Streaks.