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#1 Davegt27

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 03:00 AM

3060 adds 5 damage to all IS PPCs
Must be mounted close to PPC/ERPPC

Has charge up and additional heat

http://www.sarna.net...i/PPC_Capacitor

#2 Snazzy Dragon

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 03:04 AM

I think that we still don't have BL-X ammo switching after several years and I also think that because of that level of incapability we will not see the PPC capacitor any time Soon™

Edited by Snazzy Dragon, 08 April 2017 - 03:05 AM.


#3 El Bandito

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 03:10 AM

Easiest way to do it is to turn it into a separate weapon as "PPC with capacitor"-- 8 tons, 4 slots, 15 damage, 15 heat, 0.75 second charge.

Come to think of it, having a charge means it will be used with Gauss a lot. Which is fine, IMO. Currently we do not see many IS mechs combining Gauss with PPCs. Mostly Clan mechs are doing it.

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 03:18 AM

I'd like for it to be added but idk if PGI has the coding ability to do it for the same reason Bandito said.

#5 Hit the Deck

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 03:56 AM

View PostEl Bandito, on 08 April 2017 - 03:10 AM, said:

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Come to think of it, having a charge means it will be used with Gauss a lot. Which is fine, IMO. Currently we do not see many IS mechs combining Gauss with PPCs. Mostly Clan mechs are doing it.

If PGI wants to be really evil, set the Capacitor's charge duration and "charge prime-up" time different from Gauss.

#6 Davegt27

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 04:04 AM

I think the charge time should be to fire every other PPC firing

The 1 ton weight and 1 slot seems fine


#7 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 06:27 AM

View PostDavegt27, on 08 April 2017 - 04:04 AM, said:

I think the charge time should be to fire every other PPC firing

The 1 ton weight and 1 slot seems fine


Except that when the capacitor is being used, that PPC cannot fire, so that probably wouldn't work. It's a very situational weapon accessory, at best. At worst it would just further entrench the pop/peektart meta, which is really the last thing we need.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 08 April 2017 - 06:29 AM.


#8 Andi Nagasia

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 06:37 AM

View PostSnazzy Dragon, on 08 April 2017 - 03:04 AM, said:

I think that we still don't have BL-X ammo switching after several years and I also think that because of that level of incapability we will not see the PPC capacitor any time Soon™

View PostEl Bandito, on 08 April 2017 - 03:10 AM, said:

Easiest way to do it is to turn it into a separate weapon as "PPC with capacitor"-- 8 tons, 4 slots, 15 damage, 15 heat, 0.75 second charge.

Come to think of it, having a charge means it will be used with Gauss a lot. Which is fine, IMO. Currently we do not see many IS mechs combining Gauss with PPCs. Mostly Clan mechs are doing it.

dont think so, if your ganna have PPCs with Capacitors your Prabibly going to have it on all or none of your PPCs,
so i see it working like PPC Artimus, an upgrade option that makes all your PPCs weight +1Ton +1Crit,

other than this, it would allow some interesting combos,
think of this 2LightPPCs+C would do 20Damage @ 20Heat for 8Tons & 6Crits,
or 1PPC+C +Gauss would do 30Damage @ 16Heat for 23Tons & 10Crits,

for balance i think the Charge on its own is enough for the PPC Capacitor,
remember most of the PPCs people will put the PPC Capacitor on have a 90m min range,

Edited by Andi Nagasia, 08 April 2017 - 06:38 AM.


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Posted 08 April 2017 - 07:17 AM

It did say the PPC Cap could be used on all properly mounted PPCs

The Cap I assumed could not be used every PPC firing but only after the cap charge up
Time (they say the cap has a charge time not the PPC/ERPPC)

I would reject the continuous heat for the cap because that defies the definition of a Capacitor

If the Cap just added 5 points damage all the time IS PPCs would be OP

Edited by Davegt27, 08 April 2017 - 07:19 AM.


#10 kesmai

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 07:22 AM

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#11 DrxAbstract

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 07:32 AM

View PostDavegt27, on 08 April 2017 - 07:17 AM, said:

If the Cap just added 5 points damage all the time IS PPCs would be slower 4 slot, 8 ton Clan PPCs


FTFY.

#12 Y E O N N E

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 09:01 AM

Hmmm, 10 tons and 4 slots for a Heavy PPC or 8 tons and 4 slots for a Capped PPC that behaves like a Gauss Rifle...

Would probably take the latter 9 times out of 10, so no. Don't need or want it, just makes the HPPC that much less enticing.

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 09:22 AM

@Yeonne: They could make the HPPC pinpoint while making the PPC spread or some other balancing method like increased cooldown while using a capacitor.

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 09:47 AM

View PostSpheroid, on 08 April 2017 - 09:22 AM, said:

@Yeonne: They could make the HPPC pinpoint while making the PPC spread or some other balancing method like increased cooldown while using a capacitor.


Spread the damage maybe. Add a charge up, etc. Cooldown is meaningless for poke and pop tarts

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 09:52 AM

Make the damage spread, just like Clam ERPPC. This way the capacitor is worthless. And then... they'll need to change Clam ERPPC to be 15 pts pinpoint, and thus capacitor can be so, too.

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 10:00 AM

View PostSpheroid, on 08 April 2017 - 09:22 AM, said:

@Yeonne: They could make the HPPC pinpoint while making the PPC spread or some other balancing method like increased cooldown while using a capacitor.


I'd be game for PPC caps adding 5 points of splash. That could actually be pretty neat, and 1x HPPC + 1x LPPC + 1x PPC Cap (I can't imagine PGI requiring more than one otherwise the mechanics could get weird for their tastes) would be the same weight as 2x PPC, but operate much more similarly to a cERPPC, with shorter range.

View PostMister Blastman, on 08 April 2017 - 09:52 AM, said:

Make the damage spread, just like Clam ERPPC. This way the capacitor is worthless. And then... they'll need to change Clam ERPPC to be 15 pts pinpoint, and thus capacitor can be so, too.


Nah.

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 04:26 PM

I like turning it into pseudo-gauss, but i think it needs projectile speed boost too if that's the case.

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 04:31 PM

View PostYeonne Greene, on 08 April 2017 - 09:01 AM, said:

Hmmm, 10 tons and 4 slots for a Heavy PPC or 8 tons and 4 slots for a Capped PPC that behaves like a Gauss Rifle...

Would probably take the latter 9 times out of 10, so no. Don't need or want it, just makes the HPPC that much less enticing.

How about the 4-ton Light Cap PPC that does 10 damage? :D

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 07:31 PM

View PostFupDup, on 08 April 2017 - 04:31 PM, said:

How about the 4-ton Light Cap PPC that does 10 damage? Posted Image

would love this, and would also support it, as another distinguishing IS abit more,

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 08:50 PM

ppc capacitor doesnt work with light ppcs or heavy ppcs or snubnose ppcs

it only works with ppcs and erppcs

http://www.sarna.net...i/PPC_Capacitor

thats what sarna says anyway

Edited by Khobai, 08 April 2017 - 08:53 PM.






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