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[Battlemaster56]

IDK just feel like if I attempt to put effort into a match all I get is failure, or just this game is trying to get me to hate it more.

[Shifty McSwift]

Don't feel too badly bud, not everyone on your side is doing the same and not everyone on the enemy side works entirely alone. I would suggest setting up some meta or near meta level dps mechs if you haven't already, it may feel a bit cheap but you kind of need to do it to get the best out of your efforts.

So long as you are moving with your team, and doing your best to deal damage and not die (torso twisting etc), you will get results.

The end result of a good game is never 12 - 0, so expect the best of you to die at any moment.

[razenWing]

So i used to think that too. But it changed a few days ago when I watches proton's stream.

In one hour of random qp stream, his team never got blown out, no matter what mech he takes. Mastered, not mastered... And it made me realize, one person can make a difference. You can always do more.

[Battlemaster56]

Thanks guy if it means not touch my other mechs for a while I'll just run my Timbers ( I own every single one and each one is mastered) and easily farm up, it's just lately I been noticing I'm more effort than usual after I completed the Easter event and it feels like I'm trying to carry a team against a team of Korean 12 year old girls who play 6 different game sat the same time.

Maybe it's me play games in general, atm and it's my competitive side kicking in again.

[Novakaine]

Brother just enjoy the game.
Had a week last year I did not win a single match.
For whatever reason.
After I gave it some thought though.
It was actually a fun week.
Just enjoy.

[Battlemaster56]

Novakaine, on 16 April 2017 - 10:32 AM, said:

Brother just enjoy the game.
Had a week last year I did not win a single match.
For whatever reason.
After I gave it some thought though.
It was actually a fun week.
Just enjoy.

I know just trying to have fun at times is hard, when I'm way to competitive in general.
Maybe the event put my competitive side in focus for something idk, just I can't get the fun I have with leveling my mechs after the event.

[SPencil]

You are only one person among eleven, versus another random twelve people. That's a lot of room for variance and weirdness. Especially in a PUG setting. Focus on your own consistency and performance, and don't sweat how others are doing, regardless of how you feel about it. If you've done all you could and put the effort in, win or lose that's all anyone is ever really asking. Sometimes the friendly team doesn't do well, sometimes the enemy team does extraordinarily well and vice versa, but in every case there's lessons to be learned and improvements to be made.

Quick play is definitely more casual play but it's still possible to play it competitively with the understanding that you're competing against yourself first and foremost. Group queue is best queue if you want tight competitive coordination with the team, but I'll recommend joining a unit for that

[cazidin]

This is a team game, and even a great acolyte of the Word of Cazidin cannot carry the other 11 initiates in battle against our enemies! Know that your skill and dedication will not be forgotten!

[Battlemaster56]

SPencil, on 16 April 2017 - 10:58 AM, said:

You are only one person among eleven, versus another random twelve people. That's a lot of room for variance and weirdness. Especially in a PUG setting. Focus on your own consistency and performance, and don't sweat how others are doing, regardless of how you feel about it. If you've done all you could and put the effort in, win or lose that's all anyone is ever really asking. Sometimes the friendly team doesn't do well, sometimes the enemy team does extraordinarily well and vice versa, but in every case there's lessons to be learned and improvements to be made.

Quick play is definitely more casual play but it's still possible to play it competitively with the understanding that you're competing against yourself first and foremost. Group queue is best queue if you want tight competitive coordination with the team, but I'll recommend joining a unit for that

Yeah see if I can pick up few my friends from what's left of swol and see to get some good matches on the weekend.

cazidin, on 16 April 2017 - 11:02 AM, said:

This is a team game, and even a great acolyte of the Word of Cazidin cannot carry the other 11 initiates in battle against our enemies! Know that your skill and dedication will not be forgotten!

I still have much to learn of such great abilities!! May my studies serve you well in the future.

[Alexander of Macedon]

The average is a 1:1 WL ratio. Don't stress it, matches like that are statistically inevitable.

[Throat Punch]

I had a string of bad matches recently so I empathize with you. I went several days without being able to buy a win while in an assault mech, but when i switched to a light, which i am truly awful at, I started to experience better results for whatever reason. Solo queue can be hit or miss or really miss. In the end if you are trying your best and having fun that's all that matters.

[Khobai]

Its not bad if you continually fail. its bad if you dont improve at all

[Valleric]

How long have you been playing? Are u solo dropping? What type of mech/loadout do u use?

[Tarl Cabot]

Battlemaster56, on 16 April 2017 - 09:21 AM, said:

IDK just feel like if I attempt to put effort into a match all I get is failure, or just this game is trying to get me to hate it more.

If your effort did not include providing direction/command when no one else did, you could say you did not do enough. Provided most of the team followed, that will usually be the biggest difference between winning and losing.

Competitive in a team game where there is real communication but relying on others to know what to do, when to do it only really works in a unit or when most of the players on your drop have seriously worked in that type of environment vs pugs who try but without that type of direction, that said the side with more direction than the other will generally pull it out.

Edited by Tarl Cabot, 16 April 2017 - 12:33 PM.

[Baulven]

Battlemaster56, on 16 April 2017 - 09:21 AM, said:

IDK just feel like if I attempt to put effort into a match all I get is failure, or just this game is trying to get me to hate it more.

It's very back and forth especially with the current matchmaker. Do your best, be a team player, and accept it. I have been on every type of match outcome in existence and as long as I try my damndest I am happy with my showing.

Except the few times I get caught out in front of an assault lance try to retreat and my team blocks me. Those games my teammates are just dumb, and Atlas (the Titan not mech) couldn't carry hard enough for those folks to win.

[R Valentine]

Yes, it means you suck. Get gud.

[Jman5]

It's not really about playing harder than your opponent. It's about playing smarter. Try to figure out mistakes you're making or ways you could play better.

Here try this next time you boot up the game. Play 5 games where your main goal is just get better at torso twisting. Don't worry about maxing your damage or winning the game. Just practice twisting your mech so the shots hit your arms and side torsos.

1. Have a plan going into the game which way you want to twist your mech. Do you twist right or do you twist left?
2. Try to get a feel for your opponents weapon cooldowns so you can turn just before he fires.
3. Watch your paper doll health so you know which way to twist to spread the damage and stay alive longest.

At the end of each match think about how your torso twisting went. What went well and what didn't.

Doing stuff like this helps people at all skill levels improve. Making your goal to improve rather than to simply win makes it much easier to handle those frustrating loss-streaks. Eventually it will also translate into fewer losses.

[I_AM_ZUUL]

Tarl Cabot, on 16 April 2017 - 12:26 PM, said:

If your effort did not include providing direction/command when no one else did, you could say you did not do enough. Provided most of the team followed, that will usually be the biggest difference between winning and losing.

Competitive in a team game where there is real communication but relying on others to know what to do, when to do it only really works in a unit or when most of the players on your drop have seriously worked in that type of environment vs pugs who try but without that type of direction, that said the side with more direction than the other will generally pull it out.

Just getting 8 others to listen will pretty much guarantee victory... getting 6 usually is sufficient especially if you get the superior side of the map... getting less is still a loss

Edited by I_AM_ZUUL, 16 April 2017 - 01:40 PM.

[razenWing]

Kiran Yagami, on 16 April 2017 - 12:34 PM, said:

Yes, it means you suck. Get gud.

That's not a fair statement. Not everyone can play like Proton. Only a handful of pilots in this game can single-handedly change game like that. My point about Proton is to not get frustrated and grow and change with every agonizing loss.

(So a much less mean way of saying what you said... you douche)

[Battlemaster56]

Khobai, on 16 April 2017 - 11:44 AM, said:

Its not bad if you continually fail. its bad if you dont improve at all

I know that's why I tried to get out my comfort zone with my Timberwolves and play different mechs and weight classes.