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#21 Humpday

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 02:06 PM

I dunno if it was pure skill or [Redacted] luck, but I dropped into a group match on tera and 3 of us all got headshot.
I mean I've been headshot like 2x something like 2k matches, to have 3 in a row in the same game?

I thought that was strange, I let it go at the time though since i WAS being dumb and poking my head over something and not moving.

Edited by draiocht, 21 April 2017 - 11:56 PM.
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#22 Monkey Lover

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 02:10 PM

View PostSFC174, on 21 April 2017 - 02:00 PM, said:

Cheating will always exist IMO. As others have said, report if you're not sure, let PGI take a look.

Personally, the only time I report anyone is if I get hit with more than one headshot at range on the move. I'm not talking about laser splash, or some LBX pellets. But if someone hits me in the head with gauss/ppc/IS AC at range on the move, and does it more than once I'm suspicious. Same thing applies if the same guy does it to multiple people in a match. Of course, sometimes you might get hit by just one full gauss/ppc salvo and be dead from that headshot.....

Then again, most cheaters aren't dumb enough to start nailing repeated headshots to begin with....


So the 99% of cheaters who aren't stupid never get reported? Sounds about right. I report when I can see the snapping of the target but even this is getting harder because they can set it to snap slow and move in a small circle once snapped. So in the end the smart people will never be found out. Hopefully I don't get the thread shut down for saying to much.

#23 Pixel Hunter

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 02:10 PM

yeah, I had a guy center mass me in in a match from 700+ meters twice, and stripped 65 points of armor with those 2 shots. he then did it to another teammate. I strongly believe he was cheating...mostly because of his cazy accuracy (full burn with large lasers at 700M+) and doing it twice when I couldn't see him back

Edited by Gimpy117, 21 April 2017 - 02:12 PM.


#24 Humpday

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 02:22 PM

View PostGimpy117, on 21 April 2017 - 02:10 PM, said:

yeah, I had a guy center mass me in in a match from 700+ meters twice, and stripped 65 points of armor with those 2 shots. he then did it to another teammate. I strongly believe he was cheating...mostly because of his cazy accuracy (full burn with large lasers at 700M+) and doing it twice when I couldn't see him back


mmmm Dual ppc/gauss can do that in two salvos, thats why that build is so dangerous. Clan gauss can reach out to i think 650ish then tack on the range mod.

So yeah, you just got tagged twice with ppc/gauss. That'll do 50point of damage pinpoint. I mean there are good snipers out there, hits to a CT at that range aren't hard.

I'd be suspicious if I got headshot at that range though

Oh nevermind, didn't see the Laser part...ignore me....reading is hard

I will say though, that also is not hard with a gaming mouse.

There is a sniper button which lets you, on the fly, reduce your sensitivity down to stable AF. So you can easily zoom and hold the reticle on target.

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#25 Pixel Hunter

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 02:23 PM

View PostHumpday, on 21 April 2017 - 02:22 PM, said:


mmmm Dual ppc/gauss can do that in two salvos, thats why that build is so dangerous. Clan gauss can reach out to i think 650ish then tack on the range mod.

So yeah, you just got tagged twice with ppc/gauss. That'll do 50point of damage pinpoint. I mean there are good snipers out there, hits to a CT at that range aren't hard.

Oh nevermind, didn't see the Laser part...ignore me....reading is hard

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yeah, if it would have been PPC or guass I wouldn't be surprised

Edited by Gimpy117, 21 April 2017 - 02:25 PM.


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 02:27 PM

View PostGimpy117, on 21 April 2017 - 02:23 PM, said:


yeah, if it would have been PPC or guass I wouldn't be surprised


Yeah, I can full burn your CT with large/er large lasers too at 700m. It's called 800 dpi on the mouse, and 0.2 (or less) in-game mouse setting. This happens all the time in long range map engagements in FW (where people will actually bring dedicated long range builds) where you see long range Battlemaster/grasshoppers attempt to full burn hellbringer Left torsos, and vice versa.

Most good players can get the bulk of their laser burn onto 1-2 components depending on their opponent's twisting. If your lasers do some sort of semblance of a Zorro Z all over your target, your mouse sensitivity is way too high

Edited by Vxheous Kerensky, 21 April 2017 - 09:40 PM.


#27 GrimRiver

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 02:30 PM

Nobody likes a h4x0rz, catch the hint. :)

In other news a few matches ago I lost my ST even though I was in cover and it was 30 seconds into match and nobody was engaged yet.

I thought it was a teammate but endgame scoreboard said there was a total of 20 team damage across the whole team, no way enough to blow my ST off from front or back.

Was perplexed whole match.

#28 Monkey Lover

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 03:08 PM

View PostGrimRiver, on 21 April 2017 - 02:30 PM, said:

Nobody likes a h4x0rz, catch the hint. :)

In other news a few matches ago I lost my ST even though I was in cover and it was 30 seconds into match and nobody was engaged yet.

I thought it was a teammate but endgame scoreboard said there was a total of 20 team damage across the whole team, no way enough to blow my ST off from front or back.

Was perplexed whole match.


Might be wrong here but I don't remember seeing a way to see what the team did for damage. The only 'team damage' listed is what you did.

As this is a server side code hacks like this shouldn't be possible.

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 04:11 PM

Thx for posting the QUICK DRAW VIDEO. What I saw was that X4 because it was a FW drop, and like I said he only switched mechs after the 1st one ran dry. Not to mention at least 1 idiot (me) face tanked him to prove my theory. The 3 mechs that he was able to shrug of included 1 STD engine MAD 3R AC 20 4 MPL 1 Jester Meta build 1 3m Cicada Meta build and many others since he was leading the charge with an SRM build. no gauss, no ERLL and no AC. so I know he was close to us.

#30 Mister Blastman

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 04:15 PM

Unfortunately due to how children are raised nowadays, anything that prevents anyone from winning or being successful or achieving whatever they want can and often is construed as "cheating." This includes skill.

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#31 The Jerol

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 04:52 PM

The truth is out there, Man...

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#32 wicm

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 05:25 PM

Calling them snow flakes will not help PGI make money. If we had more confidence that this game was cheat resistant we could pass that along, then they would stay and get better. Like it or not this game runs on money. Cheating real or perceived is losing it money and for the simple that means it goes BY BY.

#33 Carl Vickers

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 05:54 PM

Oh wow, Mister Blastman wins the internets again for a day.

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Edited by draiocht, 22 April 2017 - 12:46 AM.
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#34 FalconerGray

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 06:18 PM

View PostGrimRiver, on 21 April 2017 - 02:30 PM, said:

Nobody likes a h4x0rz, catch the hint. Posted Image

In other news a few matches ago I lost my ST even though I was in cover and it was 30 seconds into match and nobody was engaged yet.

I thought it was a teammate but endgame scoreboard said there was a total of 20 team damage across the whole team, no way enough to blow my ST off from front or back.

Was perplexed whole match.


That was probably me in me 5xcERML+ECM Arctic Cheetah. My entire approach is exactly what you are describing. Rush to the enemy rear immediately, engage from 400m+ with single alphas followed by patient hiding. I make many kills without ever being seen my my prey.

I also take advantage of the whole "MWO hitreg bugs" hype as I will seek out targets that are taking fire from my teammates and time my shots into their rear armour to coincide with them being hit from the front. I back core and kill them and they blame the game, never giving thought to the possibility of someone being behind them.

Sorry not sorry.

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 06:39 PM

View PostMister Blastman, on 21 April 2017 - 04:15 PM, said:

Unfortunately due to how children are raised nowadays, anything that prevents anyone from winning or being successful or achieving whatever they want can and often is construed as "cheating." This includes skill.

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You, sir, get a "Participation" trophy for this beautiful post...

Well done!

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Edited by The Jerol, 21 April 2017 - 06:41 PM.


#36 Xetelian

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 07:00 PM

Dropped in group queue, got hit in the head by two PPCs almost died. Then a buddy got dropped by a headshot from the same guy that hit me.

Reported him, if he was just super lucky or a headshot pro then they wont do anything to him, but if he was using an aimbot then hopefully those reports will add up.

#37 GrimRiver

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 07:06 PM

View PostMonkey Lover, on 21 April 2017 - 03:08 PM, said:

Might be wrong here but I don't remember seeing a way to see what the team did for damage. The only 'team damage' listed is what you did.

As this is a server side code hacks like this shouldn't be possible.

It shows total team damage on the left side on the scroll bar when looking at your your own total score.

It's under the big bold yellow c-bill earnings on the left, not the middle one with your own stats at end match.

Edited by GrimRiver, 21 April 2017 - 07:12 PM.


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 07:07 PM

View PostMcgral18, on 21 April 2017 - 11:37 AM, said:

There is no durability quirked
He was just fighting Potato, who couldn't kill a MadDog


They do ban cheaters occasionally, as the reports trickle in, or their own detection finds them
They've also said they keep a few around (the Terribads, even with Haxors) to monitor the software changes over time.


Yeah I ran into a guy with a 'guillotine' title that headshotted a guy in what looked like to quick of a snap. When I looked at his stats his kdr was .84 wlr .67 with an average match score of 190 for season 10. He had well over 200 games. Really thought that it was strange. Not sure if it was hax and have no proof either way but I watch for him now.

#39 Carl Vickers

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 07:07 PM

View PostXetelian, on 21 April 2017 - 07:00 PM, said:

Dropped in group queue, got hit in the head by two PPCs almost died. Then a buddy got dropped by a headshot from the same guy that hit me.

Reported him, if he was just super lucky or a headshot pro then they wont do anything to him, but if he was using an aimbot then hopefully those reports will add up.


What mechs were you and your buddy in?

#40 GrimRiver

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 07:10 PM

View Postlegatoblues, on 21 April 2017 - 06:18 PM, said:


That was probably me in me 5xcERML+ECM Arctic Cheetah. My entire approach is exactly what you are describing. Rush to the enemy rear immediately, engage from 400m+ with single alphas followed by patient hiding. I make many kills without ever being seen my my prey.

I also take advantage of the whole "MWO hitreg bugs" hype as I will seek out targets that are taking fire from my teammates and time my shots into their rear armour to coincide with them being hit from the front. I back core and kill them and they blame the game, never giving thought to the possibility of someone being behind them.

Sorry not sorry.

What? No, it was 30 second into the match. No way 5xERML can shoot 2000m+ from spawn to spawn.



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