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[Ruar]

I see a lot of people saying they don't need more than 91 SP per mech. What they are not taking into consideration is that you can only spend that SP one time. If you have 91 HSP then you will only need those 91 points if you never make a change after your first selection. Unclick one node and click on a different node and you'll need another SP to unlock that point.

Having more GSP is a good thing because you'll need 242 total SP per mech if you end up trying out all the nodes at some time or another. More than likely most people will use around 125 nodes total after tweaking different weapon loadouts, but that's just a rough guess.

[El Bandito]

If i want different builds (especially for omnimechs), it is simply better to buy duplicate variants that you have mastered, so you get free XSPs for them.

[Cy Mitchell]

El Bandito, on 27 April 2017 - 12:04 PM, said:

If i want different builds (especially for omnimechs), it is simply better to buy duplicate variants that you have mastered, so you get free XSPs for them.

Yeah, but you would have to buy those additional variants, now, before the Skill Tree goes live to get that duplicate HXP from a variant that you already own. I believe that after the Skill Tree goes live then there will be no more HXP or GSP other than what you have already banked.

[Johnny Z]

I know for sure I have to many GSP for any content currently in the game. To much is a good thing.

Will new content be added and how much and will GSP even be useable for it.

As it looks now I will be dumping half my modules or more before this update.

[Revis Volek]

Johnny Z, on 27 April 2017 - 02:22 PM, said:

I know for sure I have to many GSP for any content currently in the game. To much is a good thing.

Will new content be added and how much and will GSP even be useable for it.

As it looks now I will be dumping half my modules or more before this update.

GO read the patch notes and Skill tree test write up again, they are only used for MECHS which is why people are mad because they need CBILLS to buy new tech, new weapons and new mechs once they drop.


So some people will be stuck with a whole LOT of GSP and HSP but no cbills to buy anything to use them on.

[Ruar]

Revis Volek, on 27 April 2017 - 02:29 PM, said:

GO read the patch notes and Skill tree test write up again, they are only used for MECHS which is why people are mad because they need CBILLS to buy new tech, new weapons and new mechs once they drop.


So some people will be stuck with a whole LOT of GSP and HSP but no cbills to buy anything to use them on.

Oh come now... you can't say no cbills to buy anything because we are getting a lot of cbills in exchange. I had 70 million sitting in my account on test. That's a lot of tech and weapons I can buy.

And GSP has future value because it will can be used on any mech. The fact I can buy a new mech and instantly drop 91 SP out of the GSP pool is amazing and a huge time savings.

[Lykaon]

Ruar, on 27 April 2017 - 11:24 AM, said:

I see a lot of people saying they don't need more than 91 SP per mech. What they are not taking into consideration is that you can only spend that SP one time. If you have 91 HSP then you will only need those 91 points if you never make a change after your first selection. Unclick one node and click on a different node and you'll need another SP to unlock that point.

Having more GSP is a good thing because you'll need 242 total SP per mech if you end up trying out all the nodes at some time or another. More than likely most people will use around 125 nodes total after tweaking different weapon loadouts, but that's just a rough guess.

Except...that while you are play testing a skill point selection in matches you will earn XP. So for most players who have a purpose built mech build how many alternate skill point builds would you need? How much time will be spent playing to test a skill build before deciding to respec the points? How much XP will be earned in the interm? How valuable will a giant bloated bank of XP be to players with giant bloated XP banks?

If someone has enough "banked" XP from module refunds to remaster 100 mechs that already have enough "banked" Xp on them currently to remaster them what value is the module refund?

What would you rather have.

The ability to respec skill trees dozens of times on a mech that will in all likelyhood never need to be respeced after it's first one (maybe two skill builds)

or...a billion C-bills.

Edited by Lykaon, 27 April 2017 - 02:48 PM.

[Ruar]

Lykaon, on 27 April 2017 - 02:45 PM, said:

Except...that while you are play testing a skill point selection in matches you will earn XP. So for most players who have a purpose built mech build how many alternate skill point builds would you need? How much time will be spent playing to test a skill build before deciding to respec the points? How much XP will be earned in the interm? How valuable will a giant bloated bank of XP be to players with giant bloated XP banks?

If someone has enough "banked" XP from module refunds to remaster 100 mechs that already have enough "banked" Xp on them currently to remaster them what value is the module refund?

What would you rather have.

The ability to respec skill trees dozens of times on a mech that will in all likelyhood never need to be respeced after it's first one (maybe two skill builds)

or...a billion C-bills.

I won't get a billion c-bills, so that's a moot point.

And I'd rather have the GSP in my account because I prefer to play the mechs that feel right than grind through a mech that is sluggish and annoying.

Maybe I'm an oddball, but I routinely change up my mech builds to find the one that fits. I probably average 5 builds per mech before I settle on something for awhile. Then I'll end up changing it around again later. So having GSP sitting there ready to click is amazing for me. C-bills are pretty easy to get because I can play any of my mechs, to include the ones with 30% c-bill bonus, to get c-bills. Getting the EXP to fill out the skills is tedious and I'll take any shortcut there I can get short of paying with real money.

[8Ball-]

If you have already mastered a mech you probably will never need to use GSP to respec. You will already have HXP you have earned by playing and you will have cbills and XP you earn by continuing to play it. Only real use for GSP is new mechs or mechs you have not finished. Since I'm getting a massive amount of GSP (16500) I will sell 75% of my modules and still have enough to master ~45 mechs, plus around 300 mill cbills to spend on civil war tech.

Edited by WW8Ball, 27 April 2017 - 03:43 PM.

[Tier5 Kerensky]

WW8Ball, on 27 April 2017 - 03:42 PM, said:

If you have already mastered a mech you probably will never need to use GSP to respec. You will already have HXP you have earned by playing and you will have cbills and XP you earn by continuing to play it. Only real use for GSP is new mechs or mechs you have not finished. Since I'm getting a massive amount of GSP (16500) I will sell 75% of my modules and still have enough to master ~45 mechs, plus around 300 mill cbills to spend on civil war tech.

I would not use any cbills for skill nodes until I'm nearly out of GSP. It's better to buy new mechs with cbills.