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[Dogstar]

Lets face it there's no denying that the Annihilator is one odd looking plug ugly mech:



So what needs to be done to beautify our ugly duckling and turn her into a beautiful swan?

Source images are here

[Metus regem]

[Humpday]

It does look odd compared to the artwork. probably better though considering the artwork is far more bulbous. This rendition at least has somewhat of a slimmer profile.

Which they'd release the info about the chassis's already

[Roughneck45]

Looks pretty cool to me, obviously Kaiju inspired and pretty close to the original drawings.

I think it suffers more from being next to three very popular mechs.

[Moonlight Grimoire]

It has a lot more hard lines vs the concept art which has smoother lines. As you can see there are much harsher prominent lines on the models vs the concept art making it look more blocky and less smooth and flowing from one part to the next. Not to mention the torso cannons aren't recessed into the torso torpedo tubes like the concept art showed (which is a damn shame, hurts convergence). From the Waist up more or less it feels like the images were all rough drafts of the mech that they showed off, waist down were right out of the concept art, so I am cutting the guy some slack who is working on the Annihilator and hoping it is just a rough pass atm which will get cleaned up. My biggest beef is the lack of things flowing from one part to another on the torso and it just feels like the arms lost geo behind the elbows. BTW, still bought it due to it grew on me after two months of playing with it on megameklabs to see what I could do with it. Should be fun even if a slug at 48.6kph, 52.2kph with tweak with a 300 engine.

Edited by Moonlight Grimoire, 02 May 2017 - 11:43 AM.

[Juodas Varnas]

Annihilator was always ugly.

Xanthos is the 100 tonner we need.

[Jackal Noble]

$#@^ Yeah!

[Zigmund Freud]

Please tell me how this thing will not get instaheadshoted in that big pointy face. Or does it come with +35 HD armor quirk?

[Jackal Noble]

Ok in all seriousness, I foresee having a grand time making the Anni work, more or less due response to the doom and gloom sure to follow it up through release.

Here's to hoping those doom and gloomers at least get me some good quirks to work with. see above and or below for suitable examples.


Cheers!

Edited by JackalBeast, 02 May 2017 - 11:59 AM.

[Dogstar]

Yeah I've heard the torpedo tubes problem before, the concept art has them snugly tucked in to the chest whereas on the 3d model they stick out A LOT.

The leg proportions are different too with the model having fatter looking calves and ankles and a straighter leg (although that might just be the pose)

I actually think the head and neck have come out pretty good.

The arms on the model are a lot clunkier though, the concept ones look much sleeker and longer without being any smaller. At least they seem to be positioned somewhat higher than expected - if they end up drooping like the warhammer then we will end up with loads of torso only builds.

I also think that the belly could do with being extended out a bit - would really increase the torso volume too and thus allow the mech to be a bit shorter to compensate.

[Jackal Noble]

Zigmund Freud, on 02 May 2017 - 11:56 AM, said:

Please tell me how this thing will not get instaheadshoted in that big pointy face. Or does it come with +35 HD armor quirk?

It's really not as bad as it seems. Just pretend that the Annihilator had it's jaw blown of by an Atlas's AC20 in a bar brawl gone bad... It would look less severe. Because the Annihilator actually has a very small in volume, the cockpit pane seems much larger when it is not.

Also, since when are headshots a common thing in this game. They're not. I picked up this duckling, and if it gets extra structure just because, well cool beans I guess.

[Humpday]

I personally take it as a personal mission to make it viable. If the direwhale manages to stay somewhat relevant in QP, no reason this shouldn't. Who knows.

Man when i play assaults I mush my keyoboard so hard trying to will it to go faster...oh i'm going to break my keyboard with this one.

As for the headshot thing, I'm not worried about that not in the slightest.

I've never been headshot in my IIya. and its head is center mass, not even laser strafes across the chest has even stripped all the armor off the head.

I wonder how the cyclops fares with headshots.

Edited by Humpday, 02 May 2017 - 12:12 PM.

[AnTi90d]

Juodas Varnas, on 02 May 2017 - 11:44 AM, said:

Xanthos is the 100 tonner we need.

Xanthos is one mean pupper.

[Dogstar]

Zigmund Freud, on 02 May 2017 - 11:56 AM, said:

Please tell me how this thing will not get instaheadshoted in that big pointy face. Or does it come with +35 HD armor quirk?

Actually I think that the head will get missed quite a lot - going for a headshot on this is riskier than on most mechs because if you miss the head you miss entirely - there's nothing around it

Obviously really good pilots are not going to have trouble hitting it but you average pilot will probably miss the whole mech when going for the head.

In addition only the 'periscope' needs to be exposed in order to peak over hills so as an LRM boat it will probably do very well at getting it's own locks

[Moonlight Grimoire]

Don't worry, load it up with LB2X's or UAC5's or LB5X's and Light PPC's and just be a jerk face plinking away, since there is no modifiers to accuracy while moving you just lock max forward speed and just act as a constant vomit of plink making people duck. Because at 100 tons with likely good armor and structure quirks? Oh you will be good fire support and anything open you can start making die fast.

I love it, and it will give me some more assaults to play.

[SmokedJag]

Zigmund Freud, on 02 May 2017 - 11:56 AM, said:

Please tell me how this thing will not get instaheadshoted in that big pointy face. Or does it come with +35 HD armor quirk?

Probably from not daring to face tank it. It will alpha strike like a Dire Wolf except it can carry pinpoint slug autocannons. Two-three salvos and you're dead.

Annihilator is Lethal Joke 'Mech.

[Bishop Steiner]

Dogstar, on 02 May 2017 - 11:27 AM, said:

Lets face it there's no denying that the Annihilator is one odd looking plug ugly mech:



So what needs to be done to beautify our ugly duckling and turn her into a beautiful swan?

Source images are here

fix the head to resemble the concept art. It'll do, after that.

Though the modeler seems to have completely missed the back part of the elbows, sticking on the little pipe doohickey, but not the big metal plate it comes out of, making the arms look imbalanced.



Seriously....look at any of the source art. I'd a pot bellied, thunder-thighed wreck with a cobra hood/swan neck combo thingy. It's a 100 ton wrecking ball called an "Annihilator". It ain't supposed to be the belle of the ball. It's SUPPOSED to be ugly. Like an A10 Warthog.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 02 May 2017 - 01:01 PM.

[invernomuto]

Dogstar, on 02 May 2017 - 11:27 AM, said:

Lets face it there's no denying that the Annihilator is one odd looking plug ugly mech:

So what needs to be done to beautify our ugly duckling and turn her into a beautiful swan?

Source images are here

Agreed. Of the four Civil War mech, it is the most "meh" compared to the artwork. The other three were all looking very good. The Annihilator seems to have something wrong with overall proportions. The 3D model does not look good to me even compared to Sarna artworks:


I must confess I pre-ordered it anyway (even after the dev stream). I love assaults and I am a weak

[Khobai]

If it has atlas level armor quirks its still going to completely replace the atlas. It will have way more firepower than an atlas in exchange for some speed, but thats not a bad tradeoff. But thats assuming it has atlas level armor quirks...

Edited by Khobai, 02 May 2017 - 01:29 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

invernomuto, on 02 May 2017 - 01:26 PM, said:

Agreed. Of the four Civil War mech, it is the most "meh" compared to the artwork. The other three were all looking very good. The Annihilator seems to have something wrong with overall proportions. The 3D model does not look good to me even compared to Sarna artworks:


I must confess I pre-ordered it anyway (even after the dev stream). I love assaults and I am a weak

seriously... "compared to it's artwork"... have you actually looked at that picture you posted? It's one of the dumbest looking gundams ever penned, in the first place.