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[NextGame]

so far the event has generally been pug life cancer.

Edited by NextGame, 05 May 2017 - 10:42 PM.

[Templar Dane]

Tiewolf, on 05 May 2017 - 04:29 PM, said:

PGI look at the FW scores and gameplay of the Tukayyid Event and tell me with a strait face that you have to reduce the IS quirks and give Clan access to more quirks via skilltree to find a "baseline" or what ever you try to find that is already obvious to every player after a few matches.

Why do you host such an Event in the first place when the balance is obviously so broken?
Have you forgotten how it turned out last time, and before, and before...and FW in generall?

If you need data, then plz collect it on the testserver. There is no joy if you want to play IS side and need 3x the time to grind this Event then on clan side. On IS side you can even struggle to win 1 scouting match.

Please do something about balancing between Clan vs. IS and casualplayers vs. hardcorepremadeteamplayers right now or tripple the benefits from this event for IS side to compensate the extra time loss the IS players suffer due to poor balance and the Meta.

It's not the mechs, it's the players. There is absolutely no matchmaker in FP, and clanners are more organized.

[MischiefSC]

Templar Dane, on 05 May 2017 - 10:43 PM, said:

It's not the mechs, it's the players. There is absolutely no matchmaker in FP, and clanners are more organized.

Huh. So, why would so many units, especially top tier units, consistently go clan every single Tuk event?

Hmmm....

The only reason there's any mercs in IS at all is A) some were trapped by the short notice and B ) it was their best odds of getting top 3 unit in that faction.

That's it.

[Mystere]

MischiefSC, on 05 May 2017 - 10:41 PM, said:

That's before we get into things like 'you have to have more IS players than Clan players in approximately a 10/12 split' and what is the new tonnage breakdown for 10 v 12.

After that you can get into the exponential difference that creates in team v team vs pug v pug and team v pug dynamics with 10 v 12 and the relative difference in focused fire.

I don't know about any of you *******, but that combinatorial explosion sure sounds fun to me.

[killerkrill]

My unit got stuck in IS but we're switching off to clan ASAP. The only reason to play IS was because of high rewards but the event makes it so even if you take a -30% contract the 500k daily cbills and mc offsets it.

Edited by killerkrill, 05 May 2017 - 11:08 PM.

[El Bandito]

killerkrill, on 05 May 2017 - 11:07 PM, said:

My unit got stuck in IS but we're switching off to clan ASAP. The only reason to play IS was because of high rewards but the event makes it so even if you take a -30% contract the 500k daily cbills and mc offsets it.

This guy gets it.

[Davegt27]

Wow I think we need a baby bottle cockpit item

[Sagamore]

killerkrill, on 05 May 2017 - 11:07 PM, said:

My unit got stuck in IS but we're switching off to clan ASAP. The only reason to play IS was because of high rewards but the event makes it so even if you take a -30% contract the 500k daily cbills and mc offsets it.

Well I hope a bunch of bads join the Clans chasing the gravy train so the IS has a fighting chance

[Mystere]

Davegt27, on 05 May 2017 - 11:31 PM, said:

Wow I think we need a baby bottle cockpit item

That's a fantastic idea!

[R Valentine]

Templar Dane, on 05 May 2017 - 10:43 PM, said:

It's not the mechs, it's the players. There is absolutely no matchmaker in FP, and clanners are more organized.

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If by "more organized" you mean "has more 12 man premades" then yes, but why do the clans have all the premades? Because clan mechs are better, and premades like to win. Duh.

[Tier5 Kerensky]

I play FP solo and I see often PUG Clan vs PUG IS with no units, all different units ect. The biggest differences are not in skill but in mechs.

[Dodger79]

Teer Kerensky, on 06 May 2017 - 01:06 AM, said:

I play FP solo and I see often PUG Clan vs PUG IS with no units, all different units ect. The biggest differences are not in skill but in mechs.

While i generally agree, i sometimes have the feeling of a self fullfilling prophecy: when the Clans have destroyed the first IS-wave, sometimes the IS literally stops to defend itself/does stupid things "because Clans are op and they don't have a chance" instead of wiping out the heavily damaged Clanners and make a push.

[Lily from animove]

Tiewolf, on 05 May 2017 - 04:29 PM, said:

PGI look at the FW scores and gameplay of the Tukayyid Event and tell me with a strait face that you have to reduce the IS quirks and give Clan access to more quirks via skilltree to find a "baseline" or what ever you try to find that is already obvious to every player after a few matches.

Why do you host such an Event in the first place when the balance is obviously so broken?
Have you forgotten how it turned out last time, and before, and before...and FW in generall?

If you need data, then plz collect it on the testserver. There is no joy if you want to play IS side and need 3x the time to grind this Event then on clan side. On IS side you can even struggle to win 1 scouting match.

Please do something about balancing between Clan vs. IS and casualplayers vs. hardcorepremadeteamplayers right now or tripple the benefits from this event for IS side to compensate the extra time loss the IS players suffer due to poor balance and the Meta.

Why? because they cna make a similar event again nd then can in first place compare this event with the next one. and this will show them how much impact skilltree and new tech impacted the balance compared to the old system.

[-Natural Selection-]

SJR, EMP, OZ, and D5 were all dropping as Smoke Jags right after it started and when they stopped dropping together some of them grouped up to keep playing. Couldnt imagine why it jumped up so quick.

[Chound]

oldradagast, on 05 May 2017 - 05:48 PM, said:

Exactly. I get a snicker out of people who pretend something isn't overpowered, but then act like it's a pure coincidence that all the hyper-competitive players are playing that mech, build, deck, whatever. Yeah, sure - it's not overpowered, but all the people who need to win at all cost are playing it. Right...

Well some merc units were caught by surprise. They are howling for PGI to reset the merc contracts so they can join the clasns but they currently are in IS contracts, probably for the C bills.

[Chound]

Templar Dane, on 05 May 2017 - 10:43 PM, said:

It's not the mechs, it's the players. There is absolutely no matchmaker in FP, and clanners are more organized.

The clan side has entire units dropping, you see the same identifier 8-12 times and on the IS side maybe three or four people have the same ID tags on them. I think that has an affect on things as well

[Revorn]

We all know



Clans..


IS...

Edited by Revorn, 06 May 2017 - 04:18 AM.

[Vonbach]

Hey PGI this event is a great example of why your playerbase is dropping.

[Black Ivan]

Clans have 100%. Tukayyid has fallen

Edited by Black Ivan, 06 May 2017 - 04:19 AM.

[Juodas Varnas]

GG CLOSE

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 06 May 2017 - 04:21 AM.