59 replies to this topic

[Vonbach]

Hey PGI about Tukayyid its at 100% Clan, just FYI this is a good example of why your playerbase is dropping.

Edited by Vonbach, 06 May 2017 - 05:19 AM.

[Imperius]

You're not entitled to win.

Are you playing in an ORGANIZED group? If not please go back to solo queue.

[Tordin]

People need to organize full galore on IS side, then again its not easy either getting full units on the battlefield, also the timezones play a factor.

[Vonbach]

All the top units are Clan I couldn't imagine why. Maybe its better tech, better weapons and better mechs?
There is no balance problem just keep telling yourself that. Like I said this is a good example of why the playerbase
is dropping.

[Imperius]

Vonbach, on 06 May 2017 - 05:57 AM, said:

All the top units are Clan I couldn't imagine why. Maybe its better tech, better weapons and better mechs?
There is no balance problem just keep telling yourself that. Like I said this is a good example of why the playerbase
is dropping.

Did you ever think the top units are the younger demographic that like clans over IS? You had one part correct in why clans are dominating.

[Novakaine]

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Edited by Tina Benoit, 10 May 2017 - 05:14 PM.
unconstructive

[Chiasson Brinker]

Imperius, on 06 May 2017 - 05:37 AM, said:

You're not entitled to win.

Qouted for Truth.

Edited by Aidan Kell, 06 May 2017 - 06:30 AM.

[Novakaine]

Imperius, on 06 May 2017 - 06:28 AM, said:

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1. Unit yes if can you read a forum sig.
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4. My lurms prove themselves daily so go hate on something else.
5. Just so you know I'm tier 2 not that it really matters.
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Edited by Tina Benoit, 10 May 2017 - 05:15 PM.
insults/fight

[Imperius]

Skanderborg, on 06 May 2017 - 06:54 AM, said:

I feel like you're a sociopath based on all of your previous comments.

Probably accurate. Shhhh don't tell anyone.

[Mystere]

Vonbach, on 06 May 2017 - 05:19 AM, said:

Hey PGI about Tukayyid its at 100% Clan, just FYI this is a good example of why your playerbase is dropping.

Mystere, on 06 May 2017 - 06:50 AM, said:

Fight like the motherf****** IS in Mosul!

Vonbach, on 06 May 2017 - 05:57 AM, said:

All the top units are Clan I couldn't imagine why. Maybe its better tech, better weapons and better mechs?
There is no balance problem just keep telling yourself that. Like I said this is a good example of why the playerbase
is dropping.

Mystere, on 05 May 2017 - 11:27 PM, said:

I'd instead rather go lore and have a Clan Binary go against an IS company ... depending on the battle scenario of course. And for others it's Clan Star vs. IS company, Clan Star vs. IS Lance, Clan Cluster vs. IS Battalion.

Ah! Just think of the possibilities if only PGI and some ******* here on the forums just had more imagination and chutzpah.

Novakaine, on 06 May 2017 - 06:12 AM, said:

For any Clan apologist who jumps in here.
You're joking right with the past 2 years of tech imbalance?
Then add in crack money hunting merc units.
Well just what da F...... did they expect.
I'll tell you nothing, this was just another event day on the calendar for PGI.
They gave no more consideration than sitting in the red chair or the blue chair at a party.
I however had a great time with the kids and grandkids at dinner and the movies.
And for a change I didn't even have to pay.

See above.

Edited by Mystere, 06 May 2017 - 07:06 AM.

[Swarmy]

Imperius, on 06 May 2017 - 05:37 AM, said:

You're not entitled to win.

Are you playing in an ORGANIZED group? If not please go back to solo queue.

None of this rectifies the fact that clan mechs ton for ton blow IS mechs out of the water. Unfortunately clan can do everything better then IS. Therefore I do not see how an IS group can beat Clan group if the skill set of the players is similar. I no longer take any of my IS mechs out, they feel slower, less powerful and less fun then my clan mechs. We need to look at the mechs themselves and not talk about entitlement to win/solo drop. Thank you for reading.

[Monkey Lover]

Vonbach, on 06 May 2017 - 05:57 AM, said:

All the top units are Clan I couldn't imagine why. Maybe its better tech, better weapons and better mechs?
There is no balance problem just keep telling yourself that. Like I said this is a good example of why the playerbase
is dropping.

I'm not sure about this. Looking at the leaderboards we have a lot of good units on IS side. It looks to me as it's coming down to the pugs. I bet the issue is with low end mechs IS has. The worst clan mech is better than 50% of IS mechs.

Really if this was balanced IS should be winning we have a tonnage advantage!

[Imperius]

Swarmy, on 06 May 2017 - 07:03 AM, said:

None of this rectifies the fact that clan mechs ton for ton blow IS mechs out of the water. Unfortunately clan can do everything better then IS. Therefore I do not see how an IS group can beat Clan group if the skill set of the players is similar. I no longer take any of my IS mechs out, they feel slower, less powerful and less fun then my clan mechs. We need to look at the mechs themselves and not talk about entitlement to win/solo drop. Thank you for reading.

Yet all this discussion is only cropping up now because IS isn't winning. If IS was winning Clans would be crying about quirks and tonnage differences.

You can't ignore that

IS players are generally older
Too many pugs not enough units
Baby bumpers were removed (No ELO matchmaker)

Therefore you can't just start sprouting a bunch of threads about balance because X isn't winning!

[Vxheous]

Vonbach, on 06 May 2017 - 05:19 AM, said:

Hey PGI about Tukayyid its at 100% Clan, just FYI this is a good example of why your playerbase is dropping.

PGi's FW system has it where one side has to only win 51% vs 49% and it'll drive the bar to 100% over time. As of this post, clans have 16828 pts vs IS 13648, giving the Clans a 55% win rate.

[Deathlike]

Vxheous Kerensky, on 06 May 2017 - 07:11 AM, said:

PGi's FW system has it where one side has to only win 51% vs 49% and it'll drive the bar to 100% over time. As of this post, clans have 16828 pts vs IS 13648, giving the Clans a 55% win rate.

Well, as one man with supposed "Tiger's Blood" said once upon a time.... Winning!

[Swarmy]

Imperius, on 06 May 2017 - 07:10 AM, said:

Yet all this discussion is only cropping up now because IS isn't winning. If IS was winning Clans would be crying about quirks and tonnage differences.

You can't ignore that

IS players are generally older
Too many pugs not enough units
Baby bumpers were removed (No ELO matchmaker)

Therefore you can't just start sprouting a bunch of threads about balance because X isn't winning!

PGI might have over quirked some IS mechs in the past, however ton for ton IS mechs definitely seem over matched.
And as to your statement that if IS was winning clans would whine, well IS hasn't won anything in quite a while. What I am not understanding is why you are shifting discussion away from the fact that IS is getting their *** handed to them, EVEN like you said with quirks and tonnage differences. To me that says that clan is better then IS in their game play representation. And if that is how PGI wants it, well then its fine. But it seems that some people are not willing to see that and say that everything is fine, which I do not understand.
Is there any IS mech that can outperform a clan mech in a job role? Only one I can think of is locust for scouting... maybe...
So yes, people can and will talk about balance, because, simply, there is none between IS and Clan.
Sorry if hard to read, I am trying to translate my thoughts into the post.

[TLBFestus]

Vonbach, on 06 May 2017 - 05:19 AM, said:

Hey PGI about Tukayyid its at 100% Clan, just FYI this is a good example of why your playerbase is dropping.

Imperius, on 06 May 2017 - 05:37 AM, said:

You're not entitled to win.

Are you playing in an ORGANIZED group? If not please go back to solo queue.

Imperius, on 06 May 2017 - 06:28 AM, said:

Are you playing in a unit? Yes, but not a 12 man
How old are you? I'm going to say you're in your 40's
Are you running small lasers and/or LRM's? Your sig says potato LRM pilot
Why isn't your Teir displayed? It's Tier 4

Note: Even though Tier really doesn't matter I barely play and I'm Tier 2. Somehow people who play all the time still haven't moved up the XP ladder.

I assumed your answers for you.

Vonbach and Novakaine,....let me interpret his replies to you just in case you didn't understand them. What he's trying to say is:


1. Organized groups are just plain better, game-wise, spiritually, and morally. As a stupid PUG, who barely represents 90% of the player base, you should be thanking us for being there to mop the floor with you and hone our egos as we prepare for the next big eSports mega-franchise.

2. If you are, OMG!!!, 40 or more you suck at everything except real life where you are likely more experienced, have more income, and are not so insecure that you have to insult people because, well....age.

3. Your loadout....let me refer you back to #1 again.

4. Because you don't show your tier and I do, I know instantly that I am better than you. You see tier 2 is easily reached by even the lamest of players, so there's that...right....see?....I'm tier 2....but I'm not lame.....really.....RESPECT ME MORE CUS IM TIER 2 DAMN YOU!!!!

In other words......CW/FP is stupid. It was never designed well, the maps stink as a rule (bottleneck after bottleneck), and it serves the interest of a tiny percentage of the population which for some reason Russ thinks will bring him eSports glory and fame. Everyone knows that management around here is better and smarter than even a tier 2, so get over it.

[Coolant]

Vonbach, on 06 May 2017 - 05:19 AM, said:

Hey PGI about Tukayyid its at 100% Clan, just FYI this is a good example of why your playerbase is dropping.

Whoever is winningTykayyid is having zero affect on me whether I enjoy the game or not

Edited by Coolant, 06 May 2017 - 02:05 PM.

[nitra]

This imbalance has been a long time coming .. it was tolerable a couple years ago maybe even more balanced then .

now its complete change your tactics change your build change, change, change, and still fail game play. when going up against clan .

IS only has maybe a few viable mechs, capable of taking clan to task. the majority can not withstand the second alpha from a clan mech with out being destroyed or severely crippled.

even the the uber twisters with the increased incoming damage and regularity of it they find them selves pretty much stripped within their several seconds of engagement .

its strikingly apparent in the faction event ... clan mech will face tank a full innersphere alpha return their alpha and 8 times out of 10 the clan mech wins that engagement .

even looking at the damage numbers the clans damage nears or surpasses double the IS average.


yeah i know it is the IS fault for bringing crappy mechs to the field. all we need is a faction war filter that eliminates 90% of the IS mechs from being placed in a drop deck. Then maybe just maybe the IS might pose a real challenge.

And its only going to get worse come skill tree release. as clan duration is going to receive buffs making those alphas even more potent than what they are today.

It almost seems that pgi is actively trying to kill off older innersphere mechs.

Its ok though Clanners, i will dutifully obey and feed my innersphere mechs into your bowels to appease the PGI Gods .


OMMM NOMMM NOMMM NOMMM NOMMM

Edited by nitra, 06 May 2017 - 07:39 AM.

[Alan Davion]

Swarmy, on 06 May 2017 - 07:30 AM, said:

To me that says that clan is better then IS in their game play representation. And if that is how PGI wants it, well then its fine.

If that's how PGI wants it, they might as well just shut this s*** down now because eventually that will cause people to stop playing altogether, and sooner or later no reward from these events will be enticing enough to get people to come back.