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[myhorseisamaz1ng]

what's wrong with matchmaking now?
how is the bunch of randoms may try to win this?

[LordLeto]

There is no matchmaking in Fw/CW/FP.

Stupid, no?

[Marquis De Lafayette]

Welcome to your first brutal lesson in FW... team up and work together or you will get rolled a lot.

It's a fun mode for people who want to team up and work together with others....for solo's who don't want to...well those kind of matches will be frequent.

P.S...my sympathies Jaybles...

[Serial Number]

This dropdeck.. The event time will be amazing farm time for clans.

[Van mw]

Why I'm not suprised of the topic starter's faction? "Best PUGs" in Davion

myhorseisamaz1ng - Davion teamspeak is ts50.bargainvoice.com:7345 (or ts3.hhod.com:7345, another alias). Get there and try to join some group. Best thing for you would be to get some training in the largest units. This may result in doubling your average matchscore in a week! It's never late to start studying.

[Grus]

In game voice coms is working you know...

[Xannatharr]

Grus, on 05 May 2017 - 10:46 AM, said:

In game voice coms is working you know...

True, but you can't talk to your teammates until the match is about to begin, when it is too late to:
1) Discuss what mechs should be in your dropdecks
2) Talk about what mech to drop first
3) Determine who will call the drop

*edit: yes I know you can type about these things once the lobby forms but again, it is often too late to work things out

It is better to be able to determine these things beforehand, not to mention identify the pilots you want to play with in advance.

Regards,

Xann

Edited by Xannatharr, 05 May 2017 - 11:06 AM.

[Monkey Lover]

Some basic match making would be nice. It doesn't have to go all out but if there happens to be two groups fighting match them first.

[naterist]

Xannatharr, on 05 May 2017 - 11:05 AM, said:

True, but you can't talk to your teammates until the match is about to begin, when it is too late to:
1) Discuss what mechs should be in your dropdecks
2) Talk about what mech to drop first
3) Determine who will call the drop

*edit: yes I know you can type about these things once the lobby forms but again, it is often too late to work things out

It is better to be able to determine these things beforehand, not to mention identify the pilots you want to play with in advance.

Regards,

Xann

^dane asked at the roundtable for prmatch-lobby voice comms specifically for this reason (and i asked him too).


not gonna help much though with that dropdeck. you really need two decks for hot and cold, at least, with them all at least elited out. without that and without a team in a teamspeak of guys who a- know what they are doing, and b- have the decks i described. maybe matchmaker will come back one day. you can still do decent as a solo if you join the mixed groups in the community teamspeaks.

Edited by naterist, 05 May 2017 - 01:13 PM.

[MechaBattler]

What would it hurt to have matchmaker anyways? At this point...

[Malrock]

myhorseisamaz1ng, on 05 May 2017 - 08:00 AM, said:

what's wrong with matchmaking now?
how is the bunch of randoms may try to win this?

There is no matchmaker. Which is one of the biggest problems with FP. This whole event **** 3 is just a play to try and get more people into the que for the big units to stomp on so that they can feel leet again and like their preferred game choice actually has people playing it thereby helping to cut down que times for a few days. Sort of a way for the devs to throw a bone to those die hards who actually do play FP normally. No worries It will return to a waste land post event because no matchmaker will mean people don't enjoy being stomped and will say that FP is no fun and then they will swear to never play it again. Then the ghost dropping will continue as soon as the event ends.

[SmokeGuar]

And again, do not start your FW career during major FW event. Too late to say this to many, but there it goes. Rewards are just too big to ignore.

[Malrock]

SmokeGuar, on 05 May 2017 - 02:20 PM, said:

And again, do not start your FW career during major FW event. Too late to say this to many, but there it goes. Rewards are just too big to ignore.

Imo terrible advice. There is never a good time to start a fw career... which is why the only thing to do is to jump in with both feet and start racking up your free mech bays as soon as possible. People should jump in with trials as soon as humanly possible. You should do anything you can to expedite those free mech bays, plus you can't ignore the free c bills getting tossed around in this event.

It really doesn't matter at all when you start, the result is always the same. You are going to be farmed by a pre made no matter what you do, so might as well start getting stomped early to get the most rewards possible. Suffer through a couple of stomps every night and you will have your mech bays in no time. Plus now you can get some free c bills and mc too thanks to the event. Even losing has its rewards... admittedly only half the rewards of winning but what ever, you are still nabbing your free c bills and working towards those free mech bays.

[justcallme A S H]

He is right.

FP Event - worst time. More groups/premades appear and that is just a fact because it's easier to get the rewards.


I'm expecting in a few hours when I get on to have at least 50% of the games - against teams. I'm excited as, good games are good games no matter the outcome. However if you're just starting out, you're going to have a really bad time.

Serial Number, on 05 May 2017 - 08:23 AM, said:

This dropdeck.. The event time will be amazing farm time for clans.

Yep. LRM drop deck, failure.

Expect nothing more than, failure. With that type of deck.

But you can also safely assume there was zero team organisation, communication and so on. I mean good players don't need it - When we have our "Oceanic" crew, none of us really use comms at all. Everyone just knows how to play

Edited by justcallme A S H, 05 May 2017 - 03:53 PM.

[Malrock]

justcallme A S H, on 05 May 2017 - 03:52 PM, said:

He is right.

FP Event - worst time. More groups/premades appear and that is just a fact because it's easier to get the rewards.


I'm expecting in a few hours when I get on to have at least 50% of the games - against teams. I'm excited as, good games are good games no matter the outcome. However if you're just starting out, you're going to have a really bad time.



Yep. LRM drop deck, failure.

Expect nothing more than, failure. With that type of deck.

But you can also safely assume there was zero team organisation, communication and so on. I mean good players don't need it - When we have our "Oceanic" crew, none of us really use comms at all. Everyone just knows how to play

Fixed that for you. If you are playing FP and just starting out then you should expect nothing but failure, as this is how FP is currently set up / designed to work. Veterans of the game sit around in groups seal clubbing new players. But you have to view it as failure with a purpose as it gets you mech bays and event rewards, you just have to hope that the seal clubbers on the opposing team are merciful and end it quickly instead of half way to victory stopping so they can toy with you (those guys are the real jerks). The faster you get seal clubbed the faster you can move on to the next match to increase your progress towards the rewards. It doesn't matter when you start FP as long as you do start it you will fail, but you can fail your way to rewards and are encouraged to do so by the reward structure set up in this game. You certainly don't play it for fun though... cuz good matches are super rare.

Edited by Malrock, 05 May 2017 - 04:04 PM.

[justcallme A S H]

It is your view that it is setup.

Here is my view:

- If you are new and part of a unit
or
- Happy to jump on a TS / Group hub

and then

- Listen
- Learn
- Ask questions

You can do very well from the outset. If you plan to drop solo - forget it. You won't learn a thing. My first game in FP with my unit was like 300dmg across 4 mechs, I was also new to the game. Inside of a month I'm cracking 1200 dmg in my "founders deck" and 6 months later I'm drop calling and busting 2-4k matches game in/game out. This is all thanks to my unit and many other units that I drop with - You all know who you are, so TY.

Moral of the story? If you are new - GET WITH A GOD DAMN UNIT. Check the leaderboards, see the ones that are doing well, join them.

Matches on Sat Lunch - Dinner (Oceanic) which is US Fri evening is almost always, solid matches. We also had some really cracking games mid-week this week as well. Granted only 30% of the drops, but it's been better than usual in lead-up to Tukk cause teams are out and oiling the gears so to speak.

[Alexander of Macedon]

If you're dropping solo you don't try to win, you just get your score for the event and accept the loss. Nothing's changed in that regard, it's always been clam groups farming IS pugs.

[Sagamore]

With the high population for this event and only one bucket, they should try the matchmaker with FP.

[LordNothing]

keep your filthy game fixing match maker out of fp. i dont need the game to boost my ego by rigging my experience. want to beat a team, try taking sane builds, try attacking the enemy, try working as a team, stop using each other as meat shields, stop chickening out of pushes, stop running off and getting killed and dont panic, its only a game. pugs can beat teams, you just have to not potato.

Edited by LordNothing, 06 May 2017 - 12:27 AM.

[myhorseisamaz1ng]

LordNothing, on 06 May 2017 - 12:26 AM, said:

keep your filthy game fixing match maker out of fp. i dont need the game to boost my ego by rigging my experience. want to beat a team, try taking sane builds, try attacking the enemy, try working as a team, stop using each other as meat shields, stop chickening out of pushes, stop running off and getting killed and dont panic, its only a game. pugs can beat teams, you just have to not potato.

Loosing 9 games out of 10 is fun for u? Sure, if IS take a lot of lrm boats, they can win, but it can be easy countered with deathballing or light mechs rush. IS won the tukkaid battle cause of unflexability of clanners and lack of ammo, but in mwo can be only frontal attack winnable for IS only by luck.