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[Lovas]

I was really wondering where all the groups went, we've been seal clubbing and getting chat harassed by the people who think they should be viable soloing in CW.

Come back to CW pls!

[ccrider]

I am not going to scout just to move up a spot. Guess 4th on the Steiner boards is where we stay.




I mean, really; scouting unfairly penalizes steiners. How can I scout when tonnage is restricted to 55 tons? There are no 55 ton Atlas'.

[justcallme A S H]

Lovas, on 11 May 2017 - 05:27 AM, said:

I was really wondering where all the groups went, we've been seal clubbing and getting chat harassed by the people who think they should be viable soloing in CW.

Come back to CW pls!

lol ye we've had a fair bit of that tonight

[Kubernetes]

Kiran Yagami, on 10 May 2017 - 05:58 PM, said:

Right. Let's just leave things the way they are then. Who needs competition or anything. It's not like we want people to participate or anything. Next Tukayyid we'll all go CSJ.

Are you kidding? If they had Tuk 4 next month everyone would go Kurita.

[xX PUG Xx]

Kubernetes, on 11 May 2017 - 11:45 AM, said:

Are you kidding? If they had Tuk 4 next month everyone would go Kurita.

<------- (and I'm an ex-Davion loyalist )



(Oh and Kuritan loyalist...erm, can you say identity crisis?)

Edited by xX PUG Xx, 11 May 2017 - 02:51 PM.

[Bud Crue]

Hey PGI...next CW event...

So we are planning for next year already?

[Contrex]

In the Last 10 Hours 420 made 300 wintickets ....one of their members is streaming on twitch. He told that everyone is forced to scout.

[Fuerchtenichts]

MischiefSC, on 10 May 2017 - 04:49 PM, said:

weight Invasion drops at 4 pts per player (since you're bringing 4 mechs) and scouting at 1 mech per player for points?

Because having to drop nothing but grinding scouting for 10 days to get enough points to stay on the leaderboard even with a 90%+ win/loss rate in invasion isn't very fun.

After PGI has updated the Leaderboard info with score information per unit I feel quite mixed regarding your proposal. Looking at different sizes of units, this feature offers a possibility even for small units (having less players) to get on top of the leaderboard. In earlier events only big or very (very very) dedicated units have been able to make the top5 of a faction.

Taking a look at the scores of the units in the leaderboard I personally can't see any major fraud. Let's wait for the final numbers after the event.

Till then I think we can put down our tin foil hats.

Edited by Fuerchtenichts, 11 May 2017 - 09:14 PM.

[MischiefSC]

Fuerchtenichts, on 11 May 2017 - 09:07 PM, said:

After PGI has updated the Leaderboard info with score information per unit I feel quite mixed regarding your proposal. Looking at different sizes of units, this feature offers a possibility even for small units (having less players) to get on top of the leaderboard. In earlier events only big or very (very very) dedicated units have been able to make the top5 of a faction.

Taking a look at the scores of the units in the leaderboard I personally can't see any major fraud. Let's wait for the final numbers after the event.

Till then I think we can put down our tin foil hats.

Except the farming of scouting is exactly what's happening. We all have access to each others TS, it's not hard to see who's dropping what. 12mans or scouting. It's all good people too; not saying anyone is doing anything shady or the like. Nothing but props and respect for my fellow mercs, err, Clanners.

Right now KCom hasn't been able to fill a 12man save for 1 or 2 hours in the evening. It's not really about numbers; most those units on the top are smaller. Big units or small units, that's irrelevant. The problem is that scouting rewards your time investment 3x or 4x as much as invasion. That's flawed.

[Contrex]

I Hope PGI Shows adterwards a statistic where they show which team played siege and which used to scout. I made my 8 scouting wins and most of my teammates did so too. But after 420 is scouting as hell they force us to scout too to hold the no.1 spot at CSJ. So what do they win by this? Nothing... they play a part of a game they dont like, just to be on the Top of a list where everyone will know how they got there.

The other point is, if we would start scouting too, they wont even get on the Top Spot. But thats the wrong way i think

[Fuerchtenichts]

MischiefSC, on 11 May 2017 - 09:22 PM, said:

It's not really about numbers; most those units on the top are smaller. Big units or small units, that's irrelevant.

I can assure you it was a big discussion on this forum whether simply giving score for "wins per player" does not massively push big units in the leaderboards (sadly this threads have been all consolidated ). We are now just looking at a different aspect of the underlying problem. And the underlying problem is whether these leaderboards reflect the "real" performance of a unit during the event.

From this point of view its not worse than before.

Edited by Fuerchtenichts, 12 May 2017 - 04:46 AM.

[1 21 Giggawatts]

In previous tuk events I seem to remember some kind of stats spreadsheet being released by PGI - makes those fixated with measuring their epeen very happy lol!

[Contrex]

420 just got us. 500 wins in one night. You cant beat this by staying at siege.

[Ssamout]

Lol, must have been one boring night, happy scouting yo!

All leaderboards in this game are mostly GrinderBoards. Very rarely any skill is measured. But if you have the time and decide to spend it running around chasing dingdongs and locusts in that horrid mode, its only fair to get an epeen enlargement as a bonus.

Hopefully PGI releases those stats in the end again with as much detail as possible. Would be fun to have scout n siege separated, but i doubt that cos they are the same also in the faction play grinderboard.

[Lovas]

If I do more than two scouting matches in a row I start to go berserk, for me it is very boring. I have done 4 scouting matches this event so far.

After the event, I better not hear one of you scouting-or-bust MFers complain you never see a siege map.

Utterly saddened by this, and very disappointed in a few of you.

[Codpond]

And how about not rubbing the merc pop imbalance in the is loyalist's faces by giving them half the daily rewards...

[Johnathan Tanner]

Wouldn't it be cool if leaderboard position was based on w/l ratio instead of scouting spam. Then we could maybe enjoy good siege fights while there still here.....Right guys?.....Guys?....

[Kubernetes]

Contrex, on 11 May 2017 - 11:21 PM, said:

420 just got us. 500 wins in one night. You cant beat this by staying at siege.

They put up 600+ in a 24-hour period. Yeah, you pretty much have to scout 24/7 now.

[Grus]

Firestorm1976, on 10 May 2017 - 08:27 PM, said:

How about making wins for IS at least... possible. Getting your *** handed to you each and every time kind of kills any enjoyment of the game. Also... spawn point camping is a dirty tactic which should be penalized... the Clans were supposed to be more honorable than that.

if we want to go "lore" on that we can always go back to #omgwtfbbq clan OP mech's and I'd be more than happy to call my targets solo in a match.... But you or anyone else here dosnt want that.

[MischiefSC]

Grus, on 12 May 2017 - 10:39 AM, said:

if we want to go "lore" on that we can always go back to #omgwtfbbq clan OP mech's and I'd be more than happy to call my targets solo in a match.... But you or anyone else here dosnt want that.

Just as soon as piloting a Clan mech requires you to be in the 10% skill level of all players in the game to correctly reflect Clan pilot skill level and IS gets automatic plot armor bonuses for big events.