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[FuzzyNova]

Ah the older mechs can sometimes seem not as cool as all the new ones.
But I like them. Mechs like this one and the Victor, Kintaro, Wolverine, Vindicator,
Thunderbolt...ETC you get the idea.

They are not obeselete as you think. You can definitely tell that the mech designs are getting more advanced as we go into the future though. With that said I was throwing together some Trebuchet 5N
Builds and was wondering what all you guys have done with it.
Right now I am doing 4 med Pulse and 2 SRM 6 Artemis as close range
And for long range I got
2 Lrm 10
Er large and 3 med lasers.

I know there are a ton of different builds but I can't tell if this mech is better at
Long range support or close range. It would seem long range would be it's
Specialty. But it's doing a decent job at racking up damage head to head with
The enemy. Well for a short period of time that is. Lol

Show me what you got

[Bishop Steiner]

Take Trebuchet......
Hit sell.

Buy pretty much any other IS 50-55 tonner. Profit!

SO yeah... IDK, maybe my buddy Jodi the Jedi can recommend a good build, he still runs his, but TBH... well, I'm mostly mrking this to keep my eyes out for any interesting ideas to give me a reason to dust mine off.

[Y E O N N E]

It's lame and boring, but 3x LPL would be utterly devastating in this 'Mech with those quirks, corner poking from the right-hand side.

[Alex Morgaine]

Light ppcs and mrms may do something interesting.

[Bishop Steiner]

Yeonne Greene, on 14 May 2017 - 07:53 PM, said:

It's lame and boring, but 3x LPL would be utterly devastating in this 'Mech with those quirks, corner poking from the right-hand side.

would it 3xLPL better than my CN9-AH? (Which is kind of boring, tbh, which is why I seldom use it)

[Monkey Lover]

My favorite was the 7m 3xsrm6 with pick of two lasers. It came with a 25% missile cooldown and JJ. Its very fast and was a fun little brawler.

Im guessing they will nerf it to nothing on Tuesday.

[ScrapIron Prime]

Bishop Steiner, on 14 May 2017 - 08:25 PM, said:

would it 3xLPL better than my CN9-AH? (Which is kind of boring, tbh, which is why I seldom use it)

Until the quirks go away, the Centurion AL is vastly superior as a 3 LPL platform.

As to the Trebuchet... you don't see them because of low hardpoints and lousy quirks. With the coming Great Nerfing (skill tree), quirks won't be an issue for a while. If the engine de-sync is kind to them, you might very well see Trebuchets again.

[Bishop Steiner]

ScrapIron Prime, on 14 May 2017 - 08:35 PM, said:

Until the quirks go away, the Centurion AL is vastly superior as a 3 LPL platform.

As to the Trebuchet... you don't see them because of low hardpoints and lousy quirks. With the coming Great Nerfing (skill tree), quirks won't be an issue for a while. If the engine de-sync is kind to them, you might very well see Trebuchets again.

honestly lost track. Am hoping new tech will hope. Still got the Hero Treb collecting dust, would love to drive it again.

[El Bandito]

Trebbie-5J was actually used in comp plays, but with the incoming new skill tree, none of the mech OP mentioned will be worth a squat. Clan mechs are where it is at.

[stealthraccoon]

Basically all Trebs are easy and to kill (like tall as a Shadowhawk!) and can make it difficult to get damage on target. Don't get me wrong, I love all my 50 ton mechs (except that Enforcer, I just haven't taken to that one) but the Treb is broad as a barn door and those hard points are low and held on by easily shed arms.

I always like being a mobile LRM dispenser, but that isn't popular anymore - unless you're driving an Assault. Now when we're talking new tech, I might have to make my 7K my platform for heavy PPC.

Edited by stealthraccoon, 14 May 2017 - 09:20 PM.

[Big Tin Man]

Bishop Steiner, on 14 May 2017 - 08:38 PM, said:

honestly lost track. Am hoping new tech will hope. Still got the Hero Treb collecting dust, would love to drive it again.

psst... the LDG does quite well in scouting as a mobile, agile, jumpy SRM dispenser.

[Y E O N N E]

Bishop Steiner, on 14 May 2017 - 08:25 PM, said:

would it 3xLPL better than my CN9-AH? (Which is kind of boring, tbh, which is why I seldom use it)

Yes, actually. You sacrifice 5% heat gen off of the CN9-AL to get 15% morerange, 5% less duration, and more durability where you need it.

[mogs01gt]

Nathaniel Johns, on 14 May 2017 - 07:29 PM, said:

Ah the older mechs can sometimes seem not as cool as all the new ones.

Cool has nothing to do with it. They under-perform due to XXXX reasons.

[Bishop Steiner]

Yeonne Greene, on 15 May 2017 - 05:04 AM, said:

Yes, actually. You sacrifice 5% heat gen off of the CN9-AL to get 15% morerange, 5% less duration, and more durability where you need it.

But do you get more durability? The Treb has god awful geometry. More hitpoints, is not the same as more durability. CN9s are still famously tanky when driven intelligently. Trebs? Not so much.

[TercieI]

Bishop Steiner, on 14 May 2017 - 08:25 PM, said:

would it 3xLPL better than my CN9-AH? (Which is kind of boring, tbh, which is why I seldom use it)

Assuming you mean the AL, yeah, the TBT-5N is actually better quirked for it. For a few more minutes anyway.

[Y E O N N E]

Bishop Steiner, on 15 May 2017 - 07:39 AM, said:

But do you get more durability? The Treb has god awful geometry. More hitpoints, is not the same as more durability. CN9s are still famously tanky when driven intelligently. Trebs? Not so much.

The torso and legs are quirked the same, the arms are dramatically beefier. Hitboxes are actually fairly narrow on the TBT, but the corner poking use case makes it something of a moot point. You won't be using it like an energy-based YLW, if that's what you are asking.

[The Lobsters]

TBT fanboy here.

Op, the 4 mpl/2 srm 6 build is probably the best build for the 5N. It is the most boring of the Trebs in many ways but it does do the mpl/srm combo well. Remember, much of the treb's power and distinction comes from it's high engine cap, like the Crab, so keep the engine size up. As the treb is a barn door it's best to keep the speed up. It's weapon quirks make the weapons competitive. The lrm build's are nothing that special compared to other trebs or other 50 tonners.

I run something like this for 111.5kph, which isn't bad for a pulse/srm striker.

Just keep moving and don't be an easy target. Due to the treb's bad rep it stays pretty far down the targeting triage, so it has 'potatoe shielding' to a certain extent.

Trebs are quite powerful once elited if you know what you are doing in them.

[Bishop Steiner]

Yeonne Greene, on 15 May 2017 - 07:46 AM, said:

The torso and legs are quirked the same, the arms are dramatically beefier. Hitboxes are actually fairly narrow on the TBT, but the corner poking use case makes it something of a moot point. You won't be using it like an energy-based YLW, if that's what you are asking.

so range poking, better, but in a scrum, less so? Not asking to be a nuisance, but more for playstyle, since I tend to flank, poke, hit and run, etc, as a skirmisher, trying to decide if it would be worth it one way or the other, to revisit it, or look to buying a 7K (my old fave treb, oddly) or just picking up a GRF-3M again....
though in 25 hours I guess it won't matter.

[kesmai]

the quirks are nice, but that treb suffers from HLWD (hip level weaponry disease)
AND the shawk -k does 3 lpl 10000000 times bettter.

[Y E O N N E]

Bishop Steiner, on 15 May 2017 - 07:49 AM, said:

so range poking, better, but in a scrum, less so? Not asking to be a nuisance, but more for playstyle, since I tend to flank, poke, hit and run, etc, as a skirmisher, trying to decide if it would be worth it one way or the other, to revisit it, or look to buying a 7K (my old fave treb, oddly) or just picking up a GRF-3M again....
though in 25 hours I guess it won't matter.

Precisely that. Cent to mix it up, Treb to poke.

I would definitely suggest waiting to see what happens with quirks tomorrow.

I like the 7K. It is a fun 'Mech, I should rebuy it.