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[Catra Lanis]

If so will people just get the faction reputation points refunded to put into their new faction of choice?

I played Smoke Jaguar a during Tukayyid 2. I'd like to put those points into Kurita if they do away with Smoke Jaguar.

If so that would be the least hassle. Sure some might get some extra mechbays and MC but so what? Consider it just compensation for removing ones clan.

[The Zohan]

Why would we disappear?

[Bud Crue]

PGI will take them out of the game, just as soon as they make the FedCom an actual entity.

[Catra Lanis]

The Zohan, on 16 May 2017 - 03:49 AM, said:

Why would we disappear?

I was thinking of the timeline advance with the civil war.

Edited by Catra Lanis, 16 May 2017 - 04:11 AM.

[Ced Riggs]

The Zohan, on 16 May 2017 - 03:49 AM, said:

Why would we disappear?

Because Clan Smoke Jaguar got annihilated in Operation Bulldog in 3059. The tech and timeline advance sees CSJ wiped out. A new clan, potentially Diamond Shark or Nova Cats, might/should/will/could step in. At the same time, Clan Ghost Bear relocates to the Inner Sphere from 3055 to 3060, and Clan Wolf splinters into Wolf-in-Exile and Jade Wolf (for 19 days), the latter then being reformed as Clan Wolf.

And so on.

[Hindenhoot]

The Zohan, on 16 May 2017 - 03:49 AM, said:

Why would we disappear?

They were annihilated during Operations Bulldog and Serpent in the canon. It would be cool if an event were made out of these events to decide it.

The Rasalhague Republic should really disappear with the current timeline jump too, IIRC they basically merge with Ghost Bear.

Edit: Hah Cedd Riggs beat me to it

Edited by Dahoota, 16 May 2017 - 04:17 AM.

[CDLord HHGD]

Lore? In this game?

[FLG 01]

Dahoota, on 16 May 2017 - 04:16 AM, said:

The Rasalhague Republic should really disappear with the current timeline jump too, IIRC they basically merge with Ghost Bear.

A merger between the FRR and Ghost Bear Dominion is heavily foreshadowed at the end of the FCCW, especially with Ragnar Magnusson himself liberating the old capital planet from the Wolves and sparking pro-Bear feelings, plus a strong anti-ComStar sentiment within the FRR (which, at the time, was more or less a ComStar protectorate).
But negotiations started only in 3070, and the process of merging took decades.

During the 60ies, FRR and GBD are two clearly seperate factions, albeit very sympathetic to each other. (A bit like 20ies LyrCom and FedSuns).

[SmokedJag]

FLG 01, on 16 May 2017 - 06:27 AM, said:

A merger between the FRR and Ghost Bear Dominion is heavily foreshadowed at the end of the FCCW, especially with Ragnar Magnusson himself liberating the old capital planet from the Wolves and sparking pro-Bear feelings, plus a strong anti-ComStar sentiment within the FRR (which, at the time, was more or less a ComStar protectorate).
But negotiations started only in 3070, and the process of merging took decades.

During the 60ies, FRR and GBD are two clearly seperate factions, albeit very sympathetic to each other. (A bit like 20ies LyrCom and FedSuns).

Like the Smoke Jags being buttmonkeys destined to get crushed, the Star Adders being a sane SLDF unit that's going to win in the Clan Homeworlds and the Wolves being cut in half (and Wolves fighting Falcons), the Bear Dominion is THE metaplot for the Ghost Bears. Even to the point where the Bear's "hat" is being relatively normal human beings who like Norse trappings as much as the FRR does. That and being big enough to fight everyone around them simultaneously if they wanted to.

Deleting the Jags is comparative easy but with how many people flagged as them for Tuk 3, I could see an Operation Bulldog event ending with Luthien falling or something.

[Imperius]

No MWO does not have lore or story it's just online pvp with groundhog CW mode that was apparently important to the community for some reason.

[Wyald Katt]

But cats, cats are nice.

[Mystere]

Catra Lanis, on 16 May 2017 - 04:11 AM, said:

I was thinking of the timeline advance with the civil war.

<steps out of the shadows>

Psst!

Hey you!

Yes, you!

The timeline jump is just for the Mechs for sale, nothing more, nothing less.

<steps back into the shadows>

[The Zohan]

Ced Riggs, on 16 May 2017 - 04:11 AM, said:

Because Clan Smoke Jaguar got annihilated in Operation Bulldog in 3059. The tech and timeline advance sees CSJ wiped out. A new clan, potentially Diamond Shark or Nova Cats, might/should/will/could step in. At the same time, Clan Ghost Bear relocates to the Inner Sphere from 3055 to 3060, and Clan Wolf splinters into Wolf-in-Exile and Jade Wolf (for 19 days), the latter then being reformed as Clan Wolf.

And so on.

Uh I know about the lore (didnt agree with it then either) it was more of a rhetorical question
Gamewise, we (the clans) have taken Tukkayyid three consecutive times and plowed through the IS Kerensky knows how many times aswell yet we didnt get Terra...everything resets after a couple of weeks (to be fair, we also got beaten like a red headed stepchild back to our homeworlds numerous times aswell). Lore means very little in MWO.

And Id be very upset if SJ got removed. But I dont think that will happen, nor should it.

Edited by The Zohan, 16 May 2017 - 10:09 AM.

[naterist]

I predict a name and faction image change to the nova cats, but not much else.

[Appogee]

I certainly hope not!

[Battlemaster56]

Appogee, on 16 May 2017 - 10:10 AM, said:

I certainly hope not!

Bah not worthy enough to even be place on my Cauldron Born's, but yea would like to see new clan factions in with new camos, come on need Nova Cat and Steel Viper camos for my mechs!!

[Captain Polux]

Praying for Clan Diamond Shark.

[Snowbluff]

ThoseWhoFearTomorrow, on 16 May 2017 - 10:26 AM, said:

Praying for Clan Diamond Shark.

Yesss! we must do it!

[Shadowomega1]

Well they could keep the cockpit items in the game, however they could remove SMJ from the game but archive what players earned with them, and make a new faction tree to fill out.

[Sixpack]

1. We had 3 tukayyids with 3 clan victorys and the inner sphere still exists.
2. Operation Bulldog/Serpent queue times. All mercenarys will go CSJ.
3. Pissing off loyalists.
4. CSJ is actually the weakest clan in mwo (mercenaries do not count) and thus would disqualify for the goal of operation bulldog/serpent.
5. Sticking to lore whenever it suits somebody but ignoring it in other cases is a no go (read: Quirks, weapon changes etc.)