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[HeavyEcho]

So I just came back after a long break and saw the new skill system, and derped hard I ended up pouring all sp into a single mech thinking the SP would be universal and not per mech.

Doe anyone know if there is a way to reverse this so I have SP for my other mechs?

[Scyther]

You ask about Historic SP... Historic SP can only be transferred into that variant of the mech. Also, no mech should have more than 91 HSP.

Meaning, if your JR7-D had 91 HSP, then that 91 can only be transferred into a JR7-D variant, not another type of Jenner or another mech. GSP is the one that can be transferred into any mech variant.

If you do mean GSP, I haven't tested to see if it will allow you to put all your GSP into one mech. However, if you did that, you would need to email support and ask the for a reset.

Edited by MadBadger, 19 May 2017 - 01:56 AM.

[Kotzi]

You might wanna ask support. There are no official Staffers here i heard.

If you have 2 of the same mechs you can have more HSP.

Edited by Kotzi, 19 May 2017 - 01:54 AM.

[ingramli]

At least they should allow selling of GSP, people who get tons of modules bought before Dec 16 just sit on hill of GSP with no real use of it...........

[HeavyEcho]

MadBadger, on 19 May 2017 - 01:53 AM, said:

You ask about Historic SP... Historic SP can only be transferred into that variant of the mech. Also, no mech should have more than 91 HSP.

Meaning, if your JR7-D had 91 HSP, then that 91 can only be transferred into a JR7-D variant, not another type of Jenner or another mech. GSP is the one that can be transferred into any mech variant.

If you do mean GSP, I haven't tested to see if it will allow you to put all your GSP into one mech. However, if you did that, you would need to email support and ask the for a reset.

I think that you cas only have 91 skill on per meck but any amount of SP since you need to be able to unlock everything if you want... again I though it might be universal but nope 180 sp on my Phoenix Hawk and since I won't really be messing around with the skill I have 89 sp just sitting on a single mech. the only plus side is I did it right the fist two mechs so my MAD's are fully skilled up with only like 30 sp spare.

Edited by HeavyEcho, 19 May 2017 - 02:09 AM.

[Disapirro]

Yeah support can probably help this.

[HeavyEcho]

Yeah I've contacted support so I'll post a fix if they give on I don't think I will be the only person to make that mistake cos they don't explain much.

Kinda sucks if theres no fix tho cos I pretty much Kneecapped myself so my only goods mechs are my MAD BH & 3R and my Pheonix Hawk.
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Edited by HeavyEcho, 19 May 2017 - 09:01 AM.

[HeavyEcho]

There is no fix. and PGI won't reverse it.

I might as well drop the game.

Edited by HeavyEcho, 19 May 2017 - 09:53 AM.

[JadePanther]

MadBadger, on 19 May 2017 - 01:53 AM, said:

You ask about Historic SP... Historic SP can only be transferred into that variant of the mech. Also, no mech should have more than 91 HSP.

Meaning, if your JR7-D had 91 HSP, then that 91 can only be transferred into a JR7-D variant, not another type of Jenner or another mech. GSP is the one that can be transferred into any mech variant.

If you do mean GSP, I haven't tested to see if it will allow you to put all your GSP into one mech. However, if you did that, you would need to email support and ask the for a reset.

if you had 2 of the same varient mechs you would get 2x the HSP.. evrey extra of a varent added to the multiplier..

[Davegt27]

send an e-mail to support tell them what happened

they used to be pretty nice

[HeavyEcho]

Davegt27, on 19 May 2017 - 10:37 AM, said:

send an e-mail to support tell them what happened

they used to be pretty nice

"The in-game Skill Tree purchase confirmations present within the main Skill Tree screens were implemented to assist with ensuring specific Skills are being purchased with specific currency. Unfortunately, with those design considerations in mind Support services are not able to fulfill requests for Skill Point resets or refund.
My apologies I could not help more this time."
Translation because SP system and skills are also needing GXP and C-Bills for creating SP and even the skills themselves they are unrecoverable.
In my case it would be that even tho I was only using the Historic SP which came from the mass refund I can't get it back because skill cost c-bill... It's almost like PGI planned on this.

So because I messed up I got kneecapped for every other mech outside a single medium and 2 heavies and since I didn't have much to begin with since free time is something I have little off (and I only have 600 hours played to begin with) catching back up is nigh imposable since I've played 4 hours with my Jenner and got hardly any SP for it.

So I think I'm gonna throw in the towel and stick with MWLL and Battletech beta is June 2nd.

Edited by HeavyEcho, 19 May 2017 - 10:59 AM.

[Cy Mitchell]

Are you talking about HSP or GSP? HSP is only useable on the Mech that it was earned on. GSP is usable on any Mech so you could have used that to level up other Mechs.

If it is any consolation excess HSP (or GSP) assigned to a variant can be used to unlock additional Skill Nodes up to all 237. Only 91 can be active at any one time but you could turn some off to try other load-outs or the effect of different Skills on your Mech. It would just cost 400XP per node to turn then back on.

I understand your frustration, Making a mistake with no recourse to correct it can be disheartening. If you decide to leave then enjoy your future gaming. I will be playing both MWO and HBS BT in the future.

[HeavyEcho]

Rampage, on 19 May 2017 - 11:14 AM, said:

Are you talking about HSP or GSP? HSP is only useable on the Mech that it was earned on. GSP is usable on any Mech so you could have used that to level up other Mechs.

If it is any consolation excess HSP (or GSP) assigned to a variant can be used to unlock additional Skill Nodes up to all 237. Only 91 can be active at any one time but you could turn some off to try other load-outs or the effect of different Skills on your Mech. It would just cost 400XP per node to turn then back on.

I understand your frustration, Making a mistake with no recourse to correct it can be disheartening. If you decide to leave then enjoy your future gaming. I will be playing both MWO and HBS BT in the future.

Its Historic skill points from the choose method section and I keep hearing from people you can only put 91 sp on a mech but I spilled 220 into my PXH-2 due to not really paying attention and assuming they would be universal rather then per mech.

Edited by HeavyEcho, 19 May 2017 - 12:16 PM.

[Cy Mitchell]

HeavyEcho, on 19 May 2017 - 11:35 AM, said:

Its Historic skill points from the choose method section and I keep hearing from people you can only put 91 sp on a mech but I spilled 220 into my PXH-2 due to not really paying attention and assuming they would be universal rather then per mech.

I would be fine I could grind sp easily but trying to play a match with a mech with no skills is incredibly frustrating, out play and out coordinate the enemy to have them out last and out damage you.

In order to have 220 HSP on a PXH-2 you would have to own 3 of them and have 2 Mastered under the old system and one partially done. You could not have used those SP on anything other than the PHX-2 anyway. You can still Master that PHX-2 and be on even footing.

If it was GSP from modules you owned then you could have used it to level up any of your Mechs.

You should have gotten a chunk of GXP too. You can use that along with 45K C-Bills per node to level up another Mech should you choose to keep playing. Any Mech that you previously played much should have its own supply of HXP or HSP that you can also use to level it back up. The HSP will buy you SPs the HXP must be combined with 45K for every 800 HXP for each SP.

Good Luck with whatever you decide to do.

[Kdogg788]

The key words here are "due to not really paying attention." Now you are going to take your ball and go home. Seriously now. You must have historic SP on the other mechs that you want to level if they were skilled before the patch. If not you will have to earn it. The general SP was a bonus.

-k

[HeavyEcho]

Kdogg788, on 19 May 2017 - 12:24 PM, said:

The key words here are "due to not really paying attention." Now you are going to take your ball and go home. Seriously now. You must have historic SP on the other mechs that you want to level if they were skilled before the patch. If not you will have to earn it. The general SP was a bonus.

-k

"Taking the ball and going home" isn't the correct term to use... kinda silly lizard... I would say I'm cashing out before I lose more chips. Time being the chips in this case.

Anyways the Historic SP pool seemed to be there for all of the mechs to be spread out but they don't explain that or give you a warning if you were to say pour it all into a single mech because you are thinking that "You must have historic SP on the other mechs" And the SP isn't a bonuse it's compensation
If I had the time I would do what I did when I lost my previous account and suck it up and start from scratch maybe get some MC to help catch up.

Overall I asked a question got my answer and I am kinda annoyed but I have other options
-he

Edited by HeavyEcho, 19 May 2017 - 12:57 PM.

[Nightmare1]

HeavyEcho, on 19 May 2017 - 09:01 AM, said:

There is no fix. and PGI won't reverse it.

I might as well drop the game.

Well, that's frustrating, sorry to hear that!

That being said, it's not like this hasn't been in the works for months, with two or three Public Test servers and mountains of forums threads and player videos to help people navigate the change...





See 1:27:40

Edited by Nightmare1, 19 May 2017 - 12:57 PM.

[Mawai]

HeavyEcho, on 19 May 2017 - 11:35 AM, said:

Its Historic skill points from the choose method section and I keep hearing from people you can only put 91 sp on a mech but I spilled 220 into my PXH-2 due to not really paying attention and assuming they would be universal rather then per mech.

You can buy all the SP in the tree but only 91 can be active at any one time and they still have to connect in a tree.

For a fully mastered mech you will receive 91 HSP (Historical skill points) to spend on that variant only. For example, with your PXH-2 you would get 91 HSP if it was fully mastered. As far as I know the only way to get more than 91 HSP for a variant is to own more than one identical variant. For example, I have both the founders Jenner and the Sarah's Jenner both of which are JR7-D and as a result I have 182 HSP to spend on any JR7-D.

In this case to get 220 HSP for a PXH-2 you would need to have owned THREE identical PXH-2 .. not just three PXH.

On the other hand, if you had some modules purchased before Dec 3, 2016 ... those would have been refunded as GSP (General Skill Points) that can be spent for a SP on any mech. Could you have accidentally been spending GSP?

Finally, the SP expenditure of HSP on one medium can't affect how much HSP you have for your ANY other mech ... HSP is only applicable to one mech variant. If there was a bug ... which you should be able to prove then they should roll it back ... otherwise you should double check what you were spending.

[TWIAFU]

HeavyEcho, on 19 May 2017 - 11:35 AM, said:

Its Historic skill points from the choose method section and I keep hearing from people you can only put 91 sp on a mech but I spilled 220 into my PXH-2 due to not really paying attention and assuming they would be universal rather then per mech.

Not to be rude, but Pro Tip;

If you leave a game, any game, for a break and come back to major changes, first thing to do is become very familiar with those changes BEFORE you dive in with blinders on.

Take it as a lesson learned. READ the patch notes and ask about what you don't understand.

[Nightmare1]

TWIAFU, on 19 May 2017 - 01:22 PM, said:

Not to be rude, but Pro Tip;

If you leave a game, any game, for a break and come back to major changes, first thing to do is become very familiar with those changes BEFORE you dive in with blinders on.

Take it as a lesson learned. READ the patch notes and ask about what you don't understand.

This.