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Hello Pgi, Would You Do A Stats Wipe...


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#1 kesmai

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Posted 30 May 2017 - 11:15 PM

... for the july/august patch?

After introducing the skill tree and the things that come with the next patch it may help you to determine what to balance.
On a even playground you might see better results...
Could you also change psr to a less forgiving formula?
The effort to reach tier 1 should be a bit more demanding than it is at the moment.
Thank you.


#2 El Bandito

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 01:06 AM

I welcome the stats wipe. It will certainly help me to tryhard even more.

#3 Weeny Machine

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 01:09 AM

Good idea. A lot has changed after all. The only drawback I see is the first weeks of seal clubbing

#4 kesmai

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 01:23 AM

View PostBush Hopper, on 31 May 2017 - 01:09 AM, said:

Good idea. A lot has changed after all. The only drawback I see is the first weeks of seal clubbing


As the MM seems to be quite 'open' atm, i have a slight feeling the change wont be that big...

#5 Shifty McSwift

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 03:44 AM

Firstly; make quickplay unranked.

Then I would be for a stats wipe.

#6 Karl Streiger

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 03:48 AM

can we have a personal stats (weapon, mechs) for every season?
Don't need a stats wipe at all (not to mention that the stats wipe is just the visible part for you)

#7 ForceUser

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 03:57 AM

View PostKarl Streiger, on 31 May 2017 - 03:48 AM, said:

can we have a personal stats (weapon, mechs) for every season?
Don't need a stats wipe at all (not to mention that the stats wipe is just the visible part for you)

He probably means a PSR reset. Not that it would make any difference tbh unless the PSR system itself is redone.

Edited by ForceUser, 31 May 2017 - 03:57 AM.


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Posted 31 May 2017 - 04:10 AM

View PostForceUser, on 31 May 2017 - 03:57 AM, said:

He probably means a PSR reset. Not that it would make any difference tbh unless the PSR system itself is redone.


Correct.

PSR reset wouldn't help much unless they overhaul the whole system. The upwards bias of PSR is simply too distinctive. I created an alt. account and tanked it as far into T5 as i could (avg. matchscore of 9 over the span of 50 matches) and from there on it only took me ~ 450 matches to get it to T2. Out of the lowest depths of T5 i could achieve. Now if i didn't tank so hard, i probably would have ended in T3 after the first few matches (thanks to PSR multiplicator) and would have probably achieved T1 during the timespan it took to get to T2.

That is simply too fast, and will lead to everyone being T1 sooner or later again after they reset PSR. A PSR reset without an overhaul would really only be a drop in the bucket at this point.

#9 Karl Streiger

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 04:35 AM

we had a working metric once.... nuff said - ELO is a myriad better compared to the current PSR

However there is the option to have a working PSR.

to be of worth PSR need to compare your "game performance" with the "game performance" of your team and modify it by a comparison with the other team.

I had a wall of text about it somewhere.
I try a
TLDR
  • Personal Stats
    • damaged modify by efficency
    • assists modify by % dmg dealt
    • solo kill (>60% dmg dealt to target)
    • dmg taken / AMS used
    • scouting and mission stuff
  • Personal Stats compared with Median of the team (middle value)
  • Median Stats of winner team compared with looser team - (mostly a value of > 1 for the looser and <1 for the winner team)
Only when you compare you can really measure the player performance - when this is to complex take W/L

Edited by Karl Streiger, 31 May 2017 - 04:36 AM.


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Posted 31 May 2017 - 04:51 AM

No need to reset PSR, just lower everyone's ranking by 1. Better players will rise faster.





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